Pigeon Island Huts
Wayne Scott made this Official Information request to Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Response to this request is long overdue. By law Queenstown-Lakes District Council should have responded by now (details and exceptions). The requester can complain to the Ombudsman.
From: Wayne Scott
Dear Queenstown-Lakes District Council,
Could I please have a copy of the agreement by which the privately owned hut located on Pigeon Island is there by virtue of as well as copies of any correspondence between the owner(s), their successors, agents, lawyers, and any other related party, and any member of QLDC staff, elected members, or agents of QLDC.
Could you also please advise what, if any, money has been paid to QLDC for this hut.
Yours faithfully,
Wayne Scott
From: QLDC Services
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Thank you for your email.
Should your enquiry be urgent, please phone Queenstown 03 441 0499 or
Wanaka 03 443 0024.
Kind Regards,
The QLDC Customer Services Team
From: QLDC Services
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Thank you for your email.
Thank you for your email. Should your enquiry be urgent, please phone
Queenstown 03 441-0499 or Wanaka 03 443-0024 otherwise your request will
be forwarded to the appropriate staff member or contractor to be actioned
the next business day.
Kind Regards,
The QLDC Customer Services Team
From: Phil Jones
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Good afternoon Wayne
Please find attached an acknowledgement letter relating to your LGPIMA
request for information yesterday.
Regards
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Information Advisor
Chief Executive’s Office |
Queenstown Lakes District
Council
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Kia ora Wayne,
Please see the attached response for your request.
Ngâ mihi,
Poonam
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From: Phil Jones <[email address]>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2022 2:39 PM
To: [FOI #19047 email]
Cc: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: LGOIMA Request re Pigeon Island Hut
Good afternoon Wayne
Please find attached an acknowledgement letter relating to your LGPIMA
request for information yesterday.
Regards
Phil Jones | Senior Official
Information Advisor
Chief Executive’s Office |
Queenstown Lakes District
Council
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
Are you saying there has been no correspondence with any party related to the private occupiers of the hut since 1997?
Are you able to advise how many non-related members of the public have been able to book this hut since 1997?
Are you able to advise why it has taken over 12 months for the hut to revert to Council management?
Are you further advising that there has been private occupation of public land for over 25 years with no monies being paid to the Council?
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Morning Wayne,
Many thanks for your further email.
I'm acknowledging at this stage and will be in touch once I've the sourced the information.
Please note our retrievable on-line records go back to 2014. Prior to that we have to check the archives for which a manual search of all the correspondence needs to be done by our Records team which would involve considerable cost depending on their time.
I will contact our Records team and see if they can still track any emails for the Correspondence part of your request - " Are you saying there has been no correspondence with any party related to the private occupiers of the hut since 1997? "
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2022 4:27 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: LGOIMA Request- Pigeon Island Hut
Dear Information Request,
Are you saying there has been no correspondence with any party related to the private occupiers of the hut since 1997?
Are you able to advise how many non-related members of the public have been able to book this hut since 1997?
Are you able to advise why it has taken over 12 months for the hut to revert to Council management?
Are you further advising that there has been private occupation of public land for over 25 years with no monies being paid to the Council?
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora Wayne,
Please see the attached response for your request.
Ngâ mihi,
Poonam
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Queenstown Lakes District Council
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From: Phil Jones <[email address]>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2022 2:39 PM
To: [FOI #19047 email]
Cc: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: LGOIMA Request re Pigeon Island Hut
Good afternoon Wayne
Please find attached an acknowledgement letter relating to your LGPIMA request for information yesterday.
Regards
Phil Jones | Senior Official
Information Advisor
Chief Executive’s Office |
Queenstown Lakes District
Council
DD: +64 3 450 1776
[3]QLDC-Logo_CMYK_Blue[4]www.qldc.govt.nz
E: [2][email address]
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
An email from 2007 references a content management system this is some 7 years prior to when you say you have online records.
You reference meeting with the parties presumably there has been correspondence pertaining to this.
Could I please have a copy of all internal communication, including notes, relating to the hut in question.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
This request is now overdue and you have not asked for an extension.
I note the original request was not fulfilled
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Apologies for the delay in acknowledging your last email. I was gathering some thoughts from our Records and Infrastructure team before getting back to you.
Please see the extension letter and I will be in touch once I've sourced the information.
Thanks,
Poonam
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Advisor | Chief Executive’s Office
Queenstown Lakes District Council
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Monday, 9 May 2022 9:54 AM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: LGOIMA Request- Pigeon Island Hut
Dear Information Request,
This request is now overdue and you have not asked for an extension.
I note the original request was not fulfilled
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Morning Wayne,
Many thanks for your further email.
I'm acknowledging at this stage and will be in touch once I've the sourced the information.
Please note our retrievable on-line records go back to 2014. Prior to that we have to check the archives for which a manual search of all the correspondence needs to be done by our Records team which would involve considerable cost depending on their time.
I will contact our Records team and see if they can still track any emails for the Correspondence part of your request - " Are you saying there has been no correspondence with any party related to the private occupiers of the hut since 1997? "
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
Please note this request is due today.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Wayne Scott
Dear Phil Jones,
This request is now overdue.
Please advise why you have not complied with the law.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Apologies for the delayed response.
Please see the attached response for your request. Please note we need end of this week to review few documents that were found during the manual search that was performed by our Records team.
I hope that’s ok with you.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2022 1:54 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: LGOIMA Request- Pigeon Island Hut
Dear Information Request,
Please note this request is due today.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Apologies for the delay in acknowledging your last email. I was gathering some thoughts from our Records and Infrastructure team before getting back to you.
Please see the extension letter and I will be in touch once I've sourced the information.
Thanks,
Poonam
Poonam Sethi | Governance and Official Information Advisor | Chief Executive’s Office Queenstown Lakes District Council
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Queenstown-Lakes District Council,
You have misunderstood part of my request.
The agreement between the hut owners states that the hut will revert to public ownership upon the death of the two former owners.
As those parties have now been deceased for over 12 months why has it taken over 12 months for the hut to revert to public ownership?
Yours faithfully,
Wayne Scott
From: QLDC Services
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Good Morning Wayne,
Thank you for your email.
I have forwarded your request onto our Information Request Team and have
asked if they can assist you and provide this information.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Kind regards,
Megan
QLDC Customer Service Team
Queenstown Lakes District Council
[1]www.qldc.govt.nz
P: +64 3 441 0499
E: [Queenstown-Lakes District Council request email]
-----Original Message-----
From: [FOI #19047 email]
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2022 8:12:07 PM
To: "OIA/LGOIMA requests at Queenstown-Lakes District Council"
<[Queenstown-Lakes District Council request email]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts
Dear Queenstown-Lakes District Council,
You have misunderstood part of my request.
The agreement between the hut owners states that the hut will revert to
public ownership upon the death of the two former owners.
As those parties have now been deceased for over 12 months why has it
taken over 12 months for the hut to revert to public ownership?
Yours faithfully,
Wayne Scott
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear QLDC Services,
Further to this aspect of the request where you stated:
“As is normal on much of Council reserve land, premise and structures can occupy land for a
peppercorn occupation of $1 per annum. QLDC does not own the building.”
The agreement provided earlier as part of this request states that QLDC does own the building. However the other parties had occupation rights, provided members of the public could book the hut.
It appears that no member has been able to book this hut for over 25 years.
You again mention meeting with the relevant parties, given the relevant parties have been deceased for over 12 months I am curious as to how this meeting eventuated? It would explain why there has been no correspondence with the parties. Is it possible to get a transcript of the discussion, presumably this was via way of a priest or some other connection to the after life.
The agreement states that the hut will revert to public management upon the death of the two parties; as this has now been over 12 months has the management of this hut reverted to public management?
If not, why not? And when will this occur.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: QLDC Services
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Thank you for your email.
Should your enquiry be urgent, please phone Queenstown 03 441 0499 or
Wanaka 03 443 0024.
Kind Regards,
The QLDC Customer Services Team
From: QLDC Services
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Good Afternoon Wayne,
Thank you for sending in further correspondence.
I have also passed this along to our Information Request Team and ask that
they assist these requests as well.
kind regards,
Megan
QLDC Customer Service Team
Queenstown Lakes District Council
[1]www.qldc.govt.nz
P: +64 3 441 0499
E: [Queenstown-Lakes District Council request email]
-----Original Message-----
From: [FOI #19047 email]
Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2022 2:25:59 PM
To: "QLDC Services" <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A091A]
Dear QLDC Services,
Further to this aspect of the request where you stated:
“As is normal on much of Council reserve land, premise and structures
can occupy land for a
peppercorn occupation of $1 per annum. QLDC does not own the building.”
The agreement provided earlier as part of this request states that QLDC
does own the building. However the other parties had occupation rights,
provided members of the public could book the hut.
It appears that no member has been able to book this hut for over 25
years.
You again mention meeting with the relevant parties, given the relevant
parties have been deceased for over 12 months I am curious as to how
this meeting eventuated? It would explain why there has been no
correspondence with the parties. Is it possible to get a transcript of
the discussion, presumably this was via way of a priest or some other
connection to the after life.
The agreement states that the hut will revert to public management upon
the death of the two parties; as this has now been over 12 months has
the management of this hut reverted to public management?
If not, why not? And when will this occur.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Good Morning Wayne,
Thank you for your email.
I have forwarded your request onto our Information Request Team and have
asked if they can assist you and provide this information.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Kind regards,
Megan
QLDC Customer Service Team
Queenstown Lakes District Council
[1]www.qldc.govt.nz
P: +64 3 441 0499
E: [Queenstown-Lakes District Council request email]
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From: Poonam Sethi
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Please see our response to your further correspondence below.
o A meeting has been held with family members representing the estate of
the deceased. The meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to
QLDC control. We are working with the family on the removal of
personal items and completing building compliance checks before
handover. No transcript was kept of the discussion.
In addition please see the attached for the first part of your question
that we advised to respond by end of this Friday in our last response
(attached).
Thanks,
Poonam.
-----Original Message-----
From: [1][FOI #19047 email]
Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2022 2:25:59 PM
To: "QLDC Services" <[2][email address]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A091A]
Dear QLDC Services,
Further to this aspect of the request where you stated:
“As is normal on much of Council reserve land, premise and structures
can occupy land for a
peppercorn occupation of $1 per annum. QLDC does not own the building.”
The agreement provided earlier as part of this request states that QLDC
does own the building. However the other parties had occupation rights,
provided members of the public could book the hut.
It appears that no member has been able to book this hut for over 25
years.
You again mention meeting with the relevant parties, given the relevant
parties have been deceased for over 12 months I am curious as to how
this meeting eventuated? It would explain why there has been no
correspondence with the parties. Is it possible to get a transcript of
the discussion, presumably this was via way of a priest or some other
connection to the after life.
The agreement states that the hut will revert to public management upon
the death of the two parties; as this has now been over 12 months has
the management of this hut reverted to public management?
If not, why not? And when will this occur.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Good Morning Wayne,
Thank you for your email.
I have forwarded your request onto our Information Request Team and have
asked if they can assist you and provide this information.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Kind regards,
Megan
QLDC Customer Service Team
Queenstown Lakes District Council
[1][3]www.qldc.govt.nz
P: +64 3 441 0499
E: [Queenstown-Lakes District Council request email]
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Poonam Sethi,
Can you please advise when the meeting with representatives of the deceased estate took place, and advise the time frame in which personal items were to be removed by.
Could you also please advise what steps have been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal items and building compliance checks?
Can you also please advise how the meeting was organised and who attended the meeting. It seems as though the meeting must have been organised by telephone or in person as there is no correspondence between the two parties. Given this must be the case could you please advise what conflict of interest was registered. If there was no conflict of interest registered could you please advise why not.
It seems highly improbable that there has been no correspondence between to the two parties pertaining to the meeting and the subsequent return of the management to the QLDC.
As such if this information, or a satisfactory response, is not received in a timely manner I will have to ask the Ombudsman to follow the matter up.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Mōrena Wayne,
Hope you had a great long weekend.
I've consulted our Property & Infrastructure team and they are keen to have a phone conversation with you to answer all your questions. Does that help ?
Please let me know if that works and I can arrange a phone call.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Friday, 3 June 2022 8:49 AM
To: Poonam Sethi <[email address]>
Subject: Re: FW: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Poonam Sethi,
Can you please advise when the meeting with representatives of the deceased estate took place, and advise the time frame in which personal items were to be removed by.
Could you also please advise what steps have been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal items and building compliance checks?
Can you also please advise how the meeting was organised and who attended the meeting. It seems as though the meeting must have been organised by telephone or in person as there is no correspondence between the two parties. Given this must be the case could you please advise what conflict of interest was registered. If there was no conflict of interest registered could you please advise why not.
It seems highly improbable that there has been no correspondence between to the two parties pertaining to the meeting and the subsequent return of the management to the QLDC.
As such if this information, or a satisfactory response, is not received in a timely manner I will have to ask the Ombudsman to follow the matter up.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please see our response to your further correspondence below.
o A meeting has been held with family members representing the estate of the deceased. The meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to QLDC control. We are working with the family on the removal of personal items and completing building compliance checks before handover. No transcript was kept of the discussion.
In addition please see the attached for the first part of your question that we advised to respond by end of this Friday in our last response (attached).
Thanks,
Poonam.
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
I would prefer all correspondence to be public. These should not be complicated requests.
It seems as though QLDC is intentionally withholding information, or has not done what they are supposed to have done.
To date you have advised that the Hut is owned by QLDC, that the Hut is privately owned, that there has been a meeting with the relevant parties, despite them being deceased, that there has been no correspondence with said parties in relation to the meeting, or subsequent follow up.
From the information provided the Hut was supposed to be made available for the public to book (despite no record of any booking system), the management of the Hut was supposed to revert to the QLDC over 12 months ago. It seems as though the QLDC is in breach of the Reserves Act, as per the emails provided previously and has been for over 25 years.
It is difficult to believe that there has been no correspondence regarding the Hut both internally, or externally, that there have been no notes taken, despite a meeting occurring which set out an unknown process for the Hut to revert to QLDC management - noting that this was to occur over 12 months ago.
As such please advise:
The date of the meeting with the relevant parties
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting
How the meeting was organised
The outcomes, including time frames for removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC management
Please also provide a copy of all correspondence pertaining to the Hut both internally, and externally.
Please note that recollections of other correspondence, including telephone calls, and other conversations, are subject to the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Kia ora Wayne,
Many thanks for your further request. I'm acknowledging at this stage.
We are logging this as a new request as we have sent you three responses for all your original and additional requests.
I will be in touch once I've sourced the information for the below.
QLDC is currently considering your request and will communicate a decision to you by 6 July 2022 unless otherwise advised.
QLDC is committed to the principle of availability and is pleased to be assisting you with your request.
Kind Regards,
Poonam
Poonam Sethi | Governance and Official Information
Advisor | Chief Executive’s Office
Queenstown Lakes District Council
P: +64 3 450 0379
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2022 12:49 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
I would prefer all correspondence to be public. These should not be complicated requests.
It seems as though QLDC is intentionally withholding information, or has not done what they are supposed to have done.
To date you have advised that the Hut is owned by QLDC, that the Hut is privately owned, that there has been a meeting with the relevant parties, despite them being deceased, that there has been no correspondence with said parties in relation to the meeting, or subsequent follow up.
From the information provided the Hut was supposed to be made available for the public to book (despite no record of any booking system), the management of the Hut was supposed to revert to the QLDC over 12 months ago. It seems as though the QLDC is in breach of the Reserves Act, as per the emails provided previously and has been for over 25 years.
It is difficult to believe that there has been no correspondence regarding the Hut both internally, or externally, that there have been no notes taken, despite a meeting occurring which set out an unknown process for the Hut to revert to QLDC management - noting that this was to occur over 12 months ago.
As such please advise:
The date of the meeting with the relevant parties The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting How the meeting was organised The outcomes, including time frames for removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC management
Please also provide a copy of all correspondence pertaining to the Hut both internally, and externally.
Please note that recollections of other correspondence, including telephone calls, and other conversations, are subject to the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Mōrena Wayne,
Hope you had a great long weekend.
I've consulted our Property & Infrastructure team and they are keen to have a phone conversation with you to answer all your questions. Does that help ?
Please let me know if that works and I can arrange a phone call.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
The request for all correspondence was made on May 5th.
The request for why it has taken over 12 months for the hut to revert to Council management was made on May 4th.
The request for all internal communication, [which includes conversations] including notes, relating to the hut in question was made on May 5th.
The request for the meeting date and attendees was made on June 3rd.
This information has not been received.
It appears that the QLDC is intentionally withholding information.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
Various aspects of this request over well over due and QLDC is now in full breach of their legal requirements.
Are you able to advise what steps from here QLDC is intending on making please.
It is probably worth nothing that 20 working days is not a target, but a statutory maximum period of providing a response.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Kia ora Wayne,
Apologies as I was away sick and have followed up on your latest email with our property team today.
We have responded to your original request on 30 May 2022 and have acknowledged your further request regarding the Pigeon Island Hut on 8 June 2022.
We will be in touch with the response by or before 6 July as advised in my last email to you.
Please note that you have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this decision. Information about this process is available at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2022 3:55 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
Various aspects of this request over well over due and QLDC is now in full breach of their legal requirements.
Are you able to advise what steps from here QLDC is intending on making please.
It is probably worth nothing that 20 working days is not a target, but a statutory maximum period of providing a response.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora Wayne,
Many thanks for your further request. I'm acknowledging at this stage.
We are logging this as a new request as we have sent you three responses for all your original and additional requests.
I will be in touch once I've sourced the information for the below.
QLDC is currently considering your request and will communicate a decision to you by 6 July 2022 unless otherwise advised.
QLDC is committed to the principle of availability and is pleased to be assisting you with your request.
Kind Regards,
Poonam
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Hi Wayne,
Thanks for your information request. See attached letter.
I’ll be in touch once I’ve sourced the information.
Thanks,
Poonam
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Subject: Official Information request - Pigeon island
Dear Queenstown-Lakes District Council,
Please provide copies of all correspondence, including recollections of
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official information request in relation to the pigeon island hut.
Yours faithfully,
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
Please note this information is due today.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Please see the attached response for your below request.
Thanks,
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From: Information Request <[email address]>
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2022 1:43 PM
To: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>; Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Kia ora Wayne,
Many thanks for your further request. I'm acknowledging at this stage.
We are logging this as a new request as we have sent you three responses for all your original and additional requests.
I will be in touch once I've sourced the information for the below.
QLDC is currently considering your request and will communicate a decision to you by 6 July 2022 unless otherwise advised.
QLDC is committed to the principle of availability and is pleased to be assisting you with your request.
Kind Regards,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2022 12:49 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
I would prefer all correspondence to be public. These should not be complicated requests.
It seems as though QLDC is intentionally withholding information, or has not done what they are supposed to have done.
To date you have advised that the Hut is owned by QLDC, that the Hut is privately owned, that there has been a meeting with the relevant parties, despite them being deceased, that there has been no correspondence with said parties in relation to the meeting, or subsequent follow up.
From the information provided the Hut was supposed to be made available for the public to book (despite no record of any booking system), the management of the Hut was supposed to revert to the QLDC over 12 months ago. It seems as though the QLDC is in breach of the Reserves Act, as per the emails provided previously and has been for over 25 years.
It is difficult to believe that there has been no correspondence regarding the Hut both internally, or externally, that there have been no notes taken, despite a meeting occurring which set out an unknown process for the Hut to revert to QLDC management - noting that this was to occur over 12 months ago.
As such please advise:
The date of the meeting with the relevant parties The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting How the meeting was organised The outcomes, including time frames for removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC management
Please also provide a copy of all correspondence pertaining to the Hut both internally, and externally.
Please note that recollections of other correspondence, including telephone calls, and other conversations, are subject to the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
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Mōrena Wayne,
Hope you had a great long weekend.
I've consulted our Property & Infrastructure team and they are keen to have a phone conversation with you to answer all your questions. Does that help ?
Please let me know if that works and I can arrange a phone call.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
The request was very simple:
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting
How the meeting was organised
The outcomes, including time frames for removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC management
You have not answered the following:
How the meeting was organised
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended.
Or the outcomes of that meeting (despite previously stating “ A meeting has been held with family members representing the estate of
the deceased. The meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to
QLDC control. We are working with the family on the removal of
personal items and completing building compliance checks before
handover”.
This is at odds to what you have stated in your response.
You have failed to answer why it has taken over 12 months for the hut management to revert to Council management. Noting this was requested on 30 May 2022.
You have failed to answer “Could you also please advise what steps have been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal items and building compliance checks?”
Further it seems somewhat convenient that the first meeting only occurred after my initial OIA.
Can I respectfully suggest that you escalate this matter urgently.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for your email.
I've escalated this to our team and we will have a response for you by tomorrow.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2022 4:32 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
The request was very simple:
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting How the meeting was organised The outcomes, including time frames for removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC management
You have not answered the following:
How the meeting was organised
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended.
Or the outcomes of that meeting (despite previously stating “ A meeting has been held with family members representing the estate of the deceased. The meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to QLDC control. We are working with the family on the removal of personal items and completing building compliance checks before handover”.
This is at odds to what you have stated in your response.
You have failed to answer why it has taken over 12 months for the hut management to revert to Council management. Noting this was requested on 30 May 2022.
You have failed to answer “Could you also please advise what steps have been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal items and building compliance checks?”
Further it seems somewhat convenient that the first meeting only occurred after my initial OIA.
Can I respectfully suggest that you escalate this matter urgently.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please see the attached response for your below request.
Thanks,
Poonam
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Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Please see the below answers for your questions.
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting
How the meeting was organised The outcomes, including time frames for
removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC
management
o Individual names of officers of council will not be supplied. Our
Property team has attended this meeting. Time frames will be confirmed
in the next meeting.
You have not answered the following:
How the meeting was organised
o Meeting was organised by phone, then Outlook meeting invite.
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended. The
outcomes of that meeting (despite previously stating “ A meeting has been
held with family members representing the estate of the deceased. The
meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to QLDC control. We are
working with the family on the removal of personal items and completing
building compliance checks before handover”.
o As mentioned in our last response this was attended by our Property
team. The outcome from the last meeting was to take the families view
to the executive.
This is at odds to what you have stated in your response.
You have failed to answer why it has taken over 12 months for the hut
management to revert to Council management. Noting this was requested on
30 May 2022.
o Property management was in sourced from APL on 1 July 2021. And the
Pigeon island hut occupation became apparent early in 2022.
You have failed to answer “Could you also please advise what steps have
been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal
items and building compliance checks?”
o We have established a meeting with the families on 28 July 2022 to
discuss and crystalize the next steps of withdrawing their occupation.
Further it seems somewhat convenient that the first meeting only occurred
after my initial OIA.
o Council only became aware of the situation in the weeks before we
received your OIA.
Thanks,
Poonam
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2022 4:32 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
The request was very simple:
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting
How the meeting was organised The outcomes, including time frames for
removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC
management
You have not answered the following:
How the meeting was organised
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended.
Or the outcomes of that meeting (despite previously stating “ A meeting
has been held with family members representing the estate of the deceased.
The meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to QLDC control. We
are working with the family on the removal of personal items and
completing building compliance checks before handover”.
This is at odds to what you have stated in your response.
You have failed to answer why it has taken over 12 months for the hut
management to revert to Council management. Noting this was requested on
30 May 2022.
You have failed to answer “Could you also please advise what steps have
been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal
items and building compliance checks?”
Further it seems somewhat convenient that the first meeting only occurred
after my initial OIA.
Can I respectfully suggest that you escalate this matter urgently.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please see the attached response for your below request.
Thanks,
Poonam
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Queenstown Lakes District Council
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
It would appear that a meeting invite would constitute correspondence. Presumably there was an email attached to that meeting request and the subsequent reply.
Further. How was the telephone number acquired?
Could you please provide a recollection of that telephone conversation.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
Further to this. Taking information to the executive would also constitute internal communication.
It is also highly unlikely that no notes or minutes were taken from the meeting in order to take information to the executive.
This shouldn’t be so difficult.
This information is public information and is all subject to the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act.
Whilst I accept not providing names for the people who attended the meeting I requested the names OR the positions of the people who attended. A generic response of ‘The Property Team’ does not fulfill this part of the request.
It seems, as earlier suggested, that QLDC is attempting to withhold information.
As such if a satisfactory response to this OIA is not received by close of business Monday 11th of July 2022 I will request that the Ombudsman take a look at these ongoing and repeated breaches of your legal responsibilities.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for your further email. I'm acknowledging at this stage.
I'm waiting for answers from our internal team. I can try my best to respond to this by tomorrow midday.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2022 3:21 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
Further to this. Taking information to the executive would also constitute internal communication.
It is also highly unlikely that no notes or minutes were taken from the meeting in order to take information to the executive.
This shouldn’t be so difficult.
This information is public information and is all subject to the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act.
Whilst I accept not providing names for the people who attended the meeting I requested the names OR the positions of the people who attended. A generic response of ‘The Property Team’ does not fulfill this part of the request.
It seems, as earlier suggested, that QLDC is attempting to withhold information.
As such if a satisfactory response to this OIA is not received by close of business Monday 11th of July 2022 I will request that the Ombudsman take a look at these ongoing and repeated breaches of your legal responsibilities.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please see the below answers for your questions.
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting How the meeting was organised The outcomes, including time frames for removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC management
o Individual names of officers of council will not be supplied. Our Property team has attended this meeting. Time frames will be confirmed in the next meeting.
You have not answered the following:
How the meeting was organised
o Meeting was organised by phone, then Outlook meeting invite.
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended. The outcomes of that meeting (despite previously stating “ A meeting has been held with family members representing the estate of the deceased. The meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to QLDC control. We are working with the family on the removal of personal items and completing building compliance checks before handover”.
o As mentioned in our last response this was attended by our Property team. The outcome from the last meeting was to take the families view to the executive.
This is at odds to what you have stated in your response.
You have failed to answer why it has taken over 12 months for the hut management to revert to Council management. Noting this was requested on
30 May 2022.
o Property management was in sourced from APL on 1 July 2021. And the Pigeon island hut occupation became apparent early in 2022.
You have failed to answer “Could you also please advise what steps have been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal items and building compliance checks?”
o We have established a meeting with the families on 28 July 2022 to discuss and crystalize the next steps of withdrawing their occupation.
Further it seems somewhat convenient that the first meeting only occurred after my initial OIA.
o Council only became aware of the situation in the weeks before we received your OIA.
Thanks,
Poonam
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Queenstown Lakes District Council
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Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Kia ora Wayne,
Thanks for your patience. Please see our response for your last email and the attached email.
Our response - After consulting our Property team we are now revising our response and releasing the names of the attendees of the meeting:
QLDC staff -
1. Mark Samways (Property Manager)
2. Morgan Govender (Facilities Manager)
And the attendees from the family:
1. Greg Douglas
2. Darren Robinson
In addition we got the updated contact details from the hut's window signage and the meeting was organised by phone followed by an Outlook invite and there wasn't any correspondence attached to the invite.
We can confirm again that there were no meeting minutes, phone records or notes taken for this meeting.
Hope this answers your questions.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Information Request <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2022 3:33 PM
To: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>; Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for your further email. I'm acknowledging at this stage.
I'm waiting for answers from our internal team. I can try my best to respond to this by tomorrow midday.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2022 3:21 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
Further to this. Taking information to the executive would also constitute internal communication.
It is also highly unlikely that no notes or minutes were taken from the meeting in order to take information to the executive.
This shouldn’t be so difficult.
This information is public information and is all subject to the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act.
Whilst I accept not providing names for the people who attended the meeting I requested the names OR the positions of the people who attended. A generic response of ‘The Property Team’ does not fulfill this part of the request.
It seems, as earlier suggested, that QLDC is attempting to withhold information.
As such if a satisfactory response to this OIA is not received by close of business Monday 11th of July 2022 I will request that the Ombudsman take a look at these ongoing and repeated breaches of your legal responsibilities.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please see the below answers for your questions.
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended the meeting How the meeting was organised The outcomes, including time frames for removal of personal items, and time frames for the Hut to revert to QLDC management
o Individual names of officers of council will not be supplied. Our Property team has attended this meeting. Time frames will be confirmed in the next meeting.
You have not answered the following:
How the meeting was organised
o Meeting was organised by phone, then Outlook meeting invite.
The people, or positions, of QLDC representatives who attended. The outcomes of that meeting (despite previously stating “ A meeting has been held with family members representing the estate of the deceased. The meeting confirmed that the hut will be returned to QLDC control. We are working with the family on the removal of personal items and completing building compliance checks before handover”.
o As mentioned in our last response this was attended by our Property team. The outcome from the last meeting was to take the families view to the executive.
This is at odds to what you have stated in your response.
You have failed to answer why it has taken over 12 months for the hut management to revert to Council management. Noting this was requested on
30 May 2022.
o Property management was in sourced from APL on 1 July 2021. And the Pigeon island hut occupation became apparent early in 2022.
You have failed to answer “Could you also please advise what steps have been undertaken in working with the family for the removal of personal items and building compliance checks?”
o We have established a meeting with the families on 28 July 2022 to discuss and crystalize the next steps of withdrawing their occupation.
Further it seems somewhat convenient that the first meeting only occurred after my initial OIA.
o Council only became aware of the situation in the weeks before we received your OIA.
Thanks,
Poonam
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Queenstown Lakes District Council
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
To clarify; despite saying previously that you needed to get support from the Executive for the proposal to work with the family of the deceased to remove items; nothing has been written to the Executive, nor were any notes of the meeting recorded, even though the follow up meeting is in two weeks where the Council’s decision on this matter will be outlined?
It doesn’t appear that the Council knows who owns the building, despite the agreement stating that Council owns the building. Has this been clarified?
There has been no correspondence both internally or externally relating to the illegal occupation of the hut for over 25 years, despite Council being made aware of the illegal occupation in early 2022?
The council has received $1 a year for the illegal private occupation, but there is no record of any money changing hands. It is normal in these examples for an invoice to be issued (this would
also constitute correspondence).
You were made aware of the death of the original occupiers, but this just occurred miraculously?
You became aware in early 2022 about the illegal occupation but to date, other than a meeting, which confirmed the hut management would be returned to Council, even though no notes or minutes were recorded you’ve done nothing about this illegal occupation?
You’ve said that you offered me a meeting, despite there being no offer of a meeting being made.
And all this information has had to be extracted with great complication.
A meeting invite (and response) constitutes correspondence. My initial request asked for copies of ALL correspondence.
Presumably there has also been a secondary meeting invite.
Has QLDC done everything that should have done in this scenario?
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Kia ora Wayne,
Thanks for your email.
We have provided you with all the material that we had in relation to your LGOIMA request.
We do not have anything further to add to our response.
Please note that you have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this decision. Information about this process is available at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.
Regards,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2022 1:10 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts [#3A1A9H]
Dear Information Request,
To clarify; despite saying previously that you needed to get support from the Executive for the proposal to work with the family of the deceased to remove items; nothing has been written to the Executive, nor were any notes of the meeting recorded, even though the follow up meeting is in two weeks where the Council’s decision on this matter will be outlined?
It doesn’t appear that the Council knows who owns the building, despite the agreement stating that Council owns the building. Has this been clarified?
There has been no correspondence both internally or externally relating to the illegal occupation of the hut for over 25 years, despite Council being made aware of the illegal occupation in early 2022?
The council has received $1 a year for the illegal private occupation, but there is no record of any money changing hands. It is normal in these examples for an invoice to be issued (this would also constitute correspondence).
You were made aware of the death of the original occupiers, but this just occurred miraculously?
You became aware in early 2022 about the illegal occupation but to date, other than a meeting, which confirmed the hut management would be returned to Council, even though no notes or minutes were recorded you’ve done nothing about this illegal occupation?
You’ve said that you offered me a meeting, despite there being no offer of a meeting being made.
And all this information has had to be extracted with great complication.
A meeting invite (and response) constitutes correspondence. My initial request asked for copies of ALL correspondence.
Presumably there has also been a secondary meeting invite.
Has QLDC done everything that should have done in this scenario?
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora Wayne,
Thanks for your patience. Please see our response for your last email and the attached email.
Our response - After consulting our Property team we are now revising our response and releasing the names of the attendees of the meeting:
QLDC staff -
1. Mark Samways (Property Manager)
2. Morgan Govender (Facilities Manager)
And the attendees from the family:
1. Greg Douglas
2. Darren Robinson
In addition we got the updated contact details from the hut's window signage and the meeting was organised by phone followed by an Outlook invite and there wasn't any correspondence attached to the invite.
We can confirm again that there were no meeting minutes, phone records or notes taken for this meeting.
Hope this answers your questions.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
Thanks. I will request the ombudsman look into your handling of this OIA and the handling of the illegal private occupation of the hut.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Kia ora Wayne,
Please see the attached response for your request.
Ngâ mihi,
Poonam
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From: Information Request
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2022 3:53 PM
To: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon island [#3C7BCG]
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for your information request. See attached letter.
I’ll be in touch once I’ve sourced the information.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: [3][email address]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 8:32:21 PM
To: "OIA/LGOIMA requests at Queenstown-Lakes District Council"
<[4][Queenstown-Lakes District Council request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Pigeon island
Dear Queenstown-Lakes District Council,
Please provide copies of all correspondence, including recollections of
telephone calls or other like conversations, pertaining to Wayne Scotts
official information request in relation to the pigeon island hut.
Yours faithfully,
Wayne Scott
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
It is not possible to access your sharefile.
Please attach the information to the reply.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Please see the below, I've tried another way of sharing the emails.
Click on the link to access the generated batch document.
https://qldc.t1cloud.com/T1Default/CiAny...
Please note, the document generation may still be in progress.
This link will expire on 21 August 2022, 8:25 AM.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2022 5:03 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon island [#3C7BCG]
Dear Information Request,
It is not possible to access your sharefile.
Please attach the information to the reply.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora Wayne,
Please see the attached response for your request.
Ngâ mihi,
Poonam
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Queenstown Lakes District Council
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From: Information Request
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2022 3:53 PM
To: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon island [#3C7BCG]
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for your information request. See attached letter.
I’ll be in touch once I’ve sourced the information.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
Only two of the files are accessible. In relation to the redacted aspects can I please suggest you refer to the Ombudsman guide for redacted information pertaining to OIAs.
In any event could you please attach the files directly to your response.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
I've tried another way to share these emails with you via One drive. Please see the new link below:
https://qldc-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/r/per...
Please note that you have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this decision. Information about this process is available at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.
Unfortunately, due the large size of the I can't share these in an email.
We have followed the Ombudsman guidelines in order to apply redactions.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2022 9:46 AM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon island [#3C7BCG]
Dear Information Request,
Only two of the files are accessible. In relation to the redacted aspects can I please suggest you refer to the Ombudsman guide for redacted information pertaining to OIAs.
In any event could you please attach the files directly to your response.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please see the below, I've tried another way of sharing the emails.
Click on the link to access the generated batch document.
https://qldc.t1cloud.com/T1Default/CiAny...
Please note, the document generation may still be in progress.
This link will expire on 21 August 2022, 8:25 AM.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Please ignore my last email.
Please see the new link below which can be accessed via One drive.
https://qldc-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/r/per...
Unfortunately, due the large size of the files I can't share these in an email.
We have followed the Ombudsman guidelines in order to apply redactions.
Please note that you have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this decision. Information about this process is available at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2022 9:46 AM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon island [#3C7BCG]
Dear Information Request,
Only two of the files are accessible. In relation to the redacted aspects can I please suggest you refer to the Ombudsman guide for redacted information pertaining to OIAs.
In any event could you please attach the files directly to your response.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please see the below, I've tried another way of sharing the emails.
Click on the link to access the generated batch document.
https://qldc.t1cloud.com/T1Default/CiAny...
Please note, the document generation may still be in progress.
This link will expire on 21 August 2022, 8:25 AM.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
This also is unable to be accessed as it is password protected.
Please provide login information.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: Poonam Sethi
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
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Poonam Sethi shared a folder with you
Hi Wayne,
Please try this link. This should definitely work.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
Have sent you another link that you will receive via One drive portal separately. This won't ask for any logins or passwords.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FYI request #19047 email]>
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2022 3:43 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon island [#3C7BCG]
Dear Information Request,
This also is unable to be accessed as it is password protected.
Please provide login information.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Please ignore my last email.
Please see the new link below which can be accessed via One drive.
https://qldc-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/r/per...
Unfortunately, due the large size of the files I can't share these in an email.
We have followed the Ombudsman guidelines in order to apply redactions.
Please note that you have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this decision. Information about this process is available at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Poonam
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Information Request,
This also requires login information.
You may need to send the emails below your size limit.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
From: SharePoint Online
[1]OneDrive
Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
40739590
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"459N1GD". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
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Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
53267817
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View the error and make sure that the email identifier is
"916CVNC". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
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Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
14301536
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View the error and make sure that the email identifier is
"L8SQNTC". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
requesting a new code.
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Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
45441334
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"W2315TC". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
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Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Hi Wayne,
I've tried all the best sharing options and its all working from our end as I tested them before sending it to you. Just wanted to say can you please try downloading the below links and one of them should work.
Link 1-
https://qldc.t1cloud.com/T1Default/CiAny...
Link 2-
https://qldc.sharefile.com/d-s5c977358e4...
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Scott <[FOI #19047 email]>
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2022 3:55 PM
To: Information Request <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Pigeon island [#3C7BCG]
Dear Information Request,
This also requires login information.
You may need to send the emails below your size limit.
Yours sincerely,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
Hi Wayne,
Have sent you another link that you will receive via One drive portal separately. This won't ask for any logins or passwords.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Poonam
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Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
17677018
Having problems with the code?
View the error and make sure that the email identifier is
"KK2PYLB". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
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Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
02822552
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"Z2ZY1PC". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
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Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
08456982
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"FYJLSWC". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
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From: Wayne Scott
Dear Queenstown-Lakes District Council,
Could you please advise why there are contradictory statements within the OIA regarding the meeting, and the information provided relating to what was discussed at the meeting contained within the OIA regarding conversations pertaining to the original OIA?
Specifically regarding future occupation, gas, bookings, and management?
This would indicate that there was a lot more discussed at the meeting with the deceased parties family than what you have indicated.
You will note that recollections of meetings are subject to LGOIMA as well as written correspondence.
It seems as though you are intentionally withholding information.
As this request was made well outside the statutory 20 working days I would appreciate an urgent response regarding this matter.
Yours faithfully,
Wayne Scott
From: QLDC Services
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Thank you for your email.
Should your enquiry be urgent, please phone Queenstown 03 441 0499 or
Wanaka 03 443 0024.
Kind Regards,
The QLDC Customer Services Team
From: Information Request
Queenstown-Lakes District Council
Morning Wayne,
Can you please clarify what statements you believe are contradicting in
your first question?
Thanks,
Poonam
-----Original Message-----
From: [1][FOI #19047 email]
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2022 4:51:49 PM
To: "OIA/LGOIMA requests at Queenstown-Lakes District Council"
<[2][Queenstown-Lakes District Council request email]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Pigeon Island Huts
Dear Queenstown-Lakes District Council,
Could you please advise why there are contradictory statements within the
OIA regarding the meeting, and the information provided relating to what
was discussed at the meeting contained within the OIA regarding
conversations pertaining to the original OIA?
Specifically regarding future occupation, gas, bookings, and management?
This would indicate that there was a lot more discussed at the meeting
with the deceased parties family than what you have indicated.
You will note that recollections of meetings are subject to LGOIMA as well
as written correspondence.
It seems as though you are intentionally withholding information.
As this request was made well outside the statutory 20 working days I
would appreciate an urgent response regarding this matter.
Yours faithfully,
Wayne Scott
-----Original Message-----
[1]OneDrive
Hello,
For security purposes, you must enter the code below to verify
your account to access Pigeon Island. The code will only work
for 15 minutes and if you request a new code, this code will
stop working.
Account verification code:
08456982
Having problems with the code?
View the error and make sure that the email identifier is
"FYJLSWC". If it's not, look for an updated email or try
requesting a new code.
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