More information about traffic stop
Andrew Crow made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
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From: Andrew Crow
Dear New Zealand Police,
I am keen to know more about the traffic stop of a bus as reporting stuff news today.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
Based on what was reported it is not clear if police have done the right thing.
Questions I have under OIA:
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
2. What was wrong withe the bus?
3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
And finally can I ask the police release any other documents that will allow the public to understand what happened.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
New Zealand Police
Hi Andrew,
We have forwarded your email to the appropriate department for action and
contact.
Many thanks and take care,
NZ Police
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From: Andrew Crow <[FOI #9464 email]>
Date: 28/01/2019 05:53PM
Subject: Official Information request - More information about traffic
stop
Dear New Zealand Police,
I am keen to know more about the traffic stop of a bus as reporting stuff
news today.
[1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
Based on what was reported it is not clear if police have done the right
thing.
Questions I have under OIA:
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
2. What was wrong withe the bus?
3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
And finally can I ask the police release any other documents that will
allow the public to understand what happened.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
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Dear Andrew
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request
for the below information.
Your request is being actioned pursuant to the OIA.
Ngā mihi
Ministerial Services
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To: OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police <[New Zealand Police request email]>
From: Andrew Crow <[FOI #9464 email]>
Date: 28/01/2019 05:53PM
Subject: Official Information request - More information about traffic
stop
Dear New Zealand Police,
I am keen to know more about the traffic stop of a bus as reporting stuff
news today.
[1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
Based on what was reported it is not clear if police have done the right
thing.
Questions I have under OIA:
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
2. What was wrong withe the bus?
3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
And finally can I ask the police release any other documents that will
allow the public to understand what happened.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
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New Zealand Police
Good afternoon,
I refer to your request dated 28th January 2019 for:
"Bus Stop
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
2. What was wrong withe the bus?
3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
[1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
"
This matter is still under investigation. Therefore your request is
declined pursuant to:
o Section 6(c) - for the maintenance of the law, including the
prevention, investigation, and detection of offences, and the right to
a fair trial
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Thanks
Gary FERGUSON
Central District Police
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From: Andrew Crow
Dear New Zealand Police,
I am following up on my request from February 14th.
Your last response was that the request was declined due to ongoing investigation.
Basically I would like to ask same questions again now that time has past and the investigation should be closed.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
From: MAUNDER, Renee
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From: Andrew Crow <[4][FOI #9464 email]>
Date: 29/04/2019 07:49PM
Subject: Re: Information Request
Dear New Zealand Police,
I am following up on my request from February 14th.
Your last response was that the request was declined due to ongoing
investigation.
Basically I would like to ask same questions again now that time has past
and the investigation should be closed.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
-----Original Message-----
Good afternoon,
I refer to your request dated 28th January 2019 for:
"Bus Stop
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
2. What was wrong withe the bus?
3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
[1]
[5]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
"
This matter is still under investigation. Therefore your request is
declined pursuant to:
o Section 6(c) - for the maintenance of the law, including the
prevention, investigation, and detection of offences, and the right to
a fair trial
You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision if you are
not satisfied with Police’s response to your request.
Please note you can now submit all NEW information requests online to us
at the following website:
[2][6]http://www.police.govt.nz/contact-us/do-...
If you want to follow up on a request that you have already submitted,
please reply to this email.
Thanks
Gary FERGUSON
Central District Police
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Hugh Davenport left an annotation ()
If it gets declined because still "under investigation" again, I would suggest making a follow up request asking for a timeline of what investigation has taken place. Something like "Can I please get all the dates of any details added to the case file for this investigation". That should show you that either it is still under investigation as they claim, or that it is not which you should mention to the Ombudsman.
I've found in my experience that they quite often hide behind that clause.
New Zealand Police
Good afternoon,
I refer to your request dated 29th April 2019 for:
"Bus Stop
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
2. What was wrong withe the bus?
3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
[1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
"
I have been advised that this matter is before the court.
Your request is declined pursuant Section 6(c) Official Information Act
1982, for the maintenance of the law, including the prevention,
investigation, and detection of offences, and the right to a fair trial.
You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision if you are
not satisfied with Police’s response to your request.
Please note you can now submit all NEW information requests online to us
at the following website:
[2]http://www.police.govt.nz/contact-us/do-...
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please reply to this email.
Thanks
Gary FERGUSON
Central District Police
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Mr Rodgers left an annotation ()
The whole Stuff report is not very clear (typically).
For starters, the Onslow College bus (using a different company) left Karapiro today, Monday.
NZTA say they stopped the bus but Police say they have no record,
Link to this