More information about traffic stop
Andrew Crow made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
The request was refused by New Zealand Police.
      From: Andrew Crow
      
    
    Dear New Zealand Police,
I am keen to know more about the traffic stop of a bus as reporting stuff news today.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
Based on what was reported it is not clear if police have done the right thing.
Questions I have under OIA:
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
2. What was wrong withe the bus?
3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
And finally can I ask the police release any other documents that will allow the public to understand what happened.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
        New Zealand Police
      
    
    Hi Andrew,
  
 We have forwarded your email to the appropriate department for action and
 contact.
  
 Many thanks and take care,
 NZ Police
  
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 From: Andrew Crow <[FOI #9464 email]>
 Date: 28/01/2019 05:53PM
 Subject: Official Information request - More information about traffic
 stop
Dear New Zealand Police,
 I am keen to know more about the traffic stop of a bus as reporting stuff
 news today.
 [1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
 Based on what was reported it is not clear if police have done the right
 thing.
 Questions I have under OIA:
 1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
 2. What was wrong withe the bus?
 3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
 And finally can I ask the police release any other documents that will
 allow the public to understand what happened.
 Yours faithfully,
 Andrew Crow
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        New Zealand Police
      
    
    Dear Andrew
 
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request
 for the below information.
Your request is being actioned pursuant to the OIA.
 
 
Ngā mihi
 
Ministerial Services
Police NationalHeadquarters
To: OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police <[New Zealand Police request email]>
 From: Andrew Crow <[FOI #9464 email]>
 Date: 28/01/2019 05:53PM
 Subject: Official Information request - More information about traffic
 stop
Dear New Zealand Police,
I am keen to know more about the traffic stop of a bus as reporting stuff
 news today.
[1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
  
Based on what was reported it is not clear if police have done the right
 thing.
Questions I have under OIA:
1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
 2. What was wrong withe the bus?
 3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
And finally can I ask the police release any other documents that will
 allow the public to understand what happened.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
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        New Zealand Police
      
    
     
Good afternoon,
    
 I refer to your request dated 28th January 2019 for:
"Bus Stop
 1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
 2. What was wrong withe the bus?
 3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
 [1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
 " 
 
This matter is still under investigation. Therefore your request is
 declined pursuant to:
 
o Section 6(c) - for the maintenance of the law, including the
 prevention, investigation, and detection of offences, and the right to
 a fair trial
 
You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision if you are
 not satisfied with Police’s response to your request.  
 
Please note you can now submit all NEW  information requests online to us
 at the following website: 
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Thanks
 
  
Gary FERGUSON
 Central District Police
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      From: Andrew Crow
      
    
    Dear New Zealand Police,
I am following up on my request from February 14th.
Your last response was that the request was declined due to ongoing investigation.
Basically I would like to ask same questions again now that time has past and the investigation should be closed.
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Crow
        From: MAUNDER, Renee
        New Zealand Police
      
    
    Good afternoon
 
Your request has been recweived and assigned.
 
Ngā mihi             
 
Renée
 
 
Renée Maunder
Senior Advisor
Ministerial Services
 
P +64 4 470 7119
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Hugh Davenport left an annotation ()
      If it gets declined because still "under investigation" again, I would suggest making a follow up request asking for a timeline of what investigation has taken place. Something like "Can I please get all the dates of any details added to the case file for this investigation". That should show you that either it is still under investigation as they claim, or that it is not which you should mention to the Ombudsman.
I've found in my experience that they quite often hide behind that clause.
    
        New Zealand Police
      
    
     
Good afternoon,
       
I refer to your request dated 29th April 2019 for:
 "Bus Stop
 1. Why was the bus originally stopped?
 2. What was wrong withe the bus?
 3. Are the police staff involved getting extra training?
 [1]https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/110208972...
 "  
  
 
I have been advised that this matter is before the court.
  
 Your request is declined pursuant Section 6(c) Official Information Act
 1982, for the maintenance of the law, including the prevention,
 investigation, and detection of offences, and the right to a fair trial.
 
 
You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision if you are
 not satisfied with Police’s response to your request.  
 
Please note you can now submit all NEW  information requests online to us
 at the following website: 
 [2]http://www.police.govt.nz/contact-us/do-...
 
If you want to follow up on a request that you have already submitted,
 please reply to this email.
 
 
Thanks
 
  
Gary FERGUSON
 Central District Police
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Mr Rodgers left an annotation ()
The whole Stuff report is not very clear (typically).
For starters, the Onslow College bus (using a different company) left Karapiro today, Monday.
NZTA say they stopped the bus but Police say they have no record,
Link to this