Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link
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From: R Jones
Dear Auckland Transport,
Can I please have a list (i.e. broken down by the different components) of Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link? Please state if they’re final costs or possibly subject to revision?
Yours faithfully,
R Jones
From: AT Official Information (AT)
Auckland Transport
Dear R Jones,
Official information request for the cost of City Rail Link.
I refer to your official information request dated the 3rd of May 2023 in
relation to Cost of City Rail Link on Day 1.
We have transferred your request to City rail link, as they retain the
information that you are seeking for.
The information to which your request relates is not held by us but is
believed to be held by City rail link. In these circumstances, we are
required by section 12 of the LGOIMA to transfer your request.
You will hear further from City rail link concerning your request.
Nga mihi,
Maria | Customer Care Coordinator
Customer Care| Case Management
Level 5, 20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Auckland 1010
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From: R Jones
Dear AT Official Information (AT),
Thank you for your message. Please note that my request relates to all Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link including wider network improvements. I note in Figure 2 of the Auditor General's June 2022 report on the "Governance of the City Rail Link project" that some improvements are the responsibility of AT & organisations other than City Rail Link Limited.
Yours sincerely,
R Jones
From: AT Official Information (AT)
Auckland Transport
Kia ora R Jones,
I am writing to you regarding the recent transfer of your request to City
Rail Link Ltd for Day 1 costs. City Rail Link have subsequently informed
us that your request needs to be answered by specialists within Auckland
Transport (AT) and has now been transferred back to AT to answer.
We apologise for the confusion caused.
We hope to respond to your request as soon as possible, but not later than
the 31^st of May 2023, which is 20 working days after the day your request
was originally received by AT. If we aren’t able to respond to your
request by then, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe.
Your case is being managed by Varsha, who is one of our LGOIMA Business
partners. If you have any further queries, you can contact the team on
(09) 355 3553 during business hours, quoting Local Government Official
Information request number CAS-725856-Y3K4F5.
Ngâ mihi,
Peter | Customer Care Coordinator
Customer Care| Case Management
Level 5, 20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Auckland 1010
P 09 355 3553
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From: AT Official Information (AT)
Auckland Transport
Kia ora R,
I’m the LGOIMA Business Partner who’s looking into your case
My name is Varsha and I’m a LGOIMA Business Partner at Auckland Transport.
I’m responsible for looking into your request about the City Rail Link.
Can you please specify what kind of costs you are wanting?
The quickest way to get this to us, is to reply to this email leaving the
subject line as it is. We’ll make sure this information is added to your
case.
Ngā mihi,
Varsha
LGOIMA Business Partner
Auckland Transport
20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Auckland 1010
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From: R Jones <[FOI #22669 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:55 PM
To: AT Official Information (AT) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link
Dear Auckland Transport,
Can I please have a list (i.e. broken down by the different components) of
Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link? Please state if they’re final costs or
possibly subject to revision?
Yours faithfully,
R Jones
We all have an important part to play in helping to reduce the spread of
COVID-19 in our communities. [2]Find the latest information and advice
from Auckland Transport. For the latest news from the Ministry of Health
go to the [3]Unite Against Covid-19 website.
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From: R Jones
Dear AT Official Information (AT),
I have already specified what kind of costs I am wanting. The term "Day 1" costs is not my own and will be used by some people in your organisation. One example of its use can be found in the Figure 2 on page 20 of the Auditor General's June 2022 report on the "Governance of the City Rail Link project"
Yours sincerely,
R Jones
From: AT Official Information (AT)
Auckland Transport
Good morning R Jones,
Thanks for the below.
I forwarded your email to our SME and they've requested for further
information. Please see below.
Does R Jones want the costs from now or from when the project was first
conceived? Or do they want the costs that are occurring on Day 1? Does R
Jones want these costs:
o Building new CRL stations including the Britomart Station upgrade
o Building the CRL tunnel
o New trains
o New staff
o Staff training
o Wayfinding
o Staff costs for planning for Day 1
o Marketing to promote the new train services
o Customer information i.e. developing new timetables and the costs to
print them.
And possibly these associated projects:
o Adjustments to bus routes. Planning them and any associated increase
or decrease in operating them.
o Other station upgrades
o Level crossing removals
o Improvements to streetscapes around the stations
o New bus stops at stations.
I don’t know if these are all the costs. There are a lot of costs
associated with CRL that may or may not be considered “Day 1”costs.
o Adjustments to bus routes. Planning them and any associated increase
or decrease in operating them.
o Other station upgrades
o Level crossing removals
o Improvements to streetscapes around the stations
o New bus stops at stations.
Any additional information will be very helpful in our response to ensure
you get the information you are seeking.
Thanks,
Varsha
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From: R Jones
Dear AT Official Information (AT),
Who or what is your SME?
The costs requested are the costs of everything that is required in order to be able to operate the train services that AT want to operate on “Day 1”. For example, the term “Day 1” was used in an AT presentation to Auckland Council’s Transport & Infrastructure Committee on the 1st December 2022. In this presentation there was an expected level of service, for example 16 trains per hour in each direction through Britomart in the peak. If the expected level of service has changed since this presentation please state this in the answer.
The costs will be those already incurred (e.g. the cost of the tunnel that Auckland Council built from the western end of Britomart station), from now or expected future costs. The request is not for out of date costings on items where a revised or updated cost is provided. Almost all of the costs listed in your message to me of the 22/5/23 are likely to be “Day 1” costs.
From perusing publicly available documents I found the following costs that are likely to be “Day 1:
• The costs of the tunnels and everything that goes with them so a “Day 1” rail service can be operated.
• The costs of the new stations and any changes to existing stations. This includes everything that is needed in a station so a “Day 1” rail service can be operated, including pedestrian & other accesses to the stations.
• Centralised station management & control systems.
• IT systems
• Electronic train control/protection & signalling
• Integrated Rail Control Centre
• Testing & training
• Extra Electric units for the “Day 1” service. Stabling for these units.
• Level crossing removal.
• Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is likely included.
• Rail Network Rebuild
• The Wiri to Quay Park upgrade
I suspect this list is not exhaustive as maybe some items have yet to be publicly announced? Therefore my request is not limited to these items.
Yours sincerely,
R Jones
From: AT Official Information (AT)
Auckland Transport
Kia ora R Jones
Thank you for your request for information dated 3 May 2023 about day 1
costs with City Rail Link.
The LGOIMA requires that we let you know our decision on your request no
later than 20 working days after the day we received your request.
Unfortunately, it won’t be possible to meet that time limit and we are
therefore letting you know of an extension, under section 14(1)(a) of the
LGOIMA, of the time to make our decision, to 9 June 2023.
This extension is necessary because the request is for a large quantity of
information, therefore, a proper response cannot reasonably be made within
the original time limit.
You are able to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this
decision. Information about how to make a complaint is available at
[1]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.
Ngā mihi
Varsha
LGOIMA Business Partner
Auckland Transport
20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Auckland 1010
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Dear AT Official Information (AT),
Who or what is your SME?
The costs requested are the costs of everything that is required in order to be able to operate the train services that AT want to operate on “Day 1”. For example, the term “Day 1” was used in an AT presentation to Auckland Council’s Transport & Infrastructure Committee on the 1st December 2022. In this presentation there was an expected level of service, for example 16 trains per hour in each direction through Britomart in the peak. If the expected level of service has changed since this presentation please state this in the answer.
The costs will be those already incurred (e.g. the cost of the tunnel that Auckland Council built from the western end of Britomart station), from now or expected future costs. The request is not for out of date costings on items where a revised or updated cost is provided. Almost all of the costs listed in your message to me of the 22/5/23 are likely to be “Day 1” costs.
From perusing publicly available documents I found the following costs that are likely to be “Day 1:
• The costs of the tunnels and everything that goes with them so a “Day 1” rail service can be operated.
• The costs of the new stations and any changes to existing stations. This includes everything that is needed in a station so a “Day 1” rail service can be operated, including pedestrian & other accesses to the stations.
• Centralised station management & control systems.
• IT systems
• Electronic train control/protection & signalling
• Integrated Rail Control Centre
• Testing & training
• Extra Electric units for the “Day 1” service. Stabling for these units.
• Level crossing removal.
• Electric power supply, extra overhead lines & their support structures, etc. I saw mention of a western power feed so this is likely included.
• Rail Network Rebuild
• The Wiri to Quay Park upgrade
I suspect this list is not exhaustive as maybe some items have yet to be publicly announced? Therefore my request is not limited to these items.
Yours sincerely,
R Jones
From: R Jones <[FOI #22669 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:55 PM
To: AT Official Information (AT) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link
Dear Auckland Transport,
Can I please have a list (i.e. broken down by the different components) of
Day 1 costs for the City Rail Link? Please state if they’re final costs or
possibly subject to revision?
Yours faithfully,
R Jones
We all have an important part to play in helping to reduce the spread of
COVID-19 in our communities. [3]Find the latest information and advice
from Auckland Transport. For the latest news from the Ministry of Health
go to the [4]Unite Against Covid-19 website.
Important notice: The contents of this email and any attachments may be
confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you have received this
email message in error please notify us immediately and erase all copies
of the message and attachments; any use, disclosure or copying of this
message or attachments is prohibited. Any views expressed in this email
may be those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the
views of Auckland Transport.
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From: AT Official Information (AT)
Auckland Transport
Kia ora R Jones,
Thank you for your email and my apologies for the delay in getting back to
you. I wanted to ensure I had discussed your email with the team
involved.
SME is a term we use which refers to Subject Matter Expert, I'm sorry I
should've been clearer in my email.
Your request in the email below is still considered a substantial amount
of information, it involves more than 10-12 projects and what is referred
to as "day 1" is very subjective. For example, day 1 could refer to a
project that hasn't started yet, so we wouldn't be able to give you that
information.
Can you please refine your request further, is there something more
specific that you are seeking? If you are unable to refine your request we
are inclined to refuse your request under section 17(f) of the LGOIMA due
to substantial collation.
As we are still unable to provide you with a decision by 9 June 2023 we
are letting you know of an extension of the time to make our decision, to
27 June 2023. This extension is necessary because consultations with you
is necessary to make a decision on your request.
Kind regards,
Varsha
LGOIMA Business Partner
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