Warrant for Prosecution (Auckland).

K Roe (Account suspended) made this Official Information request to Ministry of Justice

Response to this request is long overdue. By law Ministry of Justice should have responded by now (details and exceptions). The requester can complain to the Ombudsman.

From: K Roe (Account suspended)

Dear Ministry of Justice,

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

If I understand the situation correctly, the Government pays one major law firm in each region to do the work involved in Crown Prosecution. In Auckland, that firm is MC:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/4528...

I emailed MC and requested they prosecute a case of unlawful detention in conditions of torture and unlawful drugging that occurred in 2020 at the Auckland City Hospital. Given what is going on, now, with Lake Alice prosecution (or not) this is a case of public interest as to what is going on in our hospitals not however many years ago -- but *today*.

I informed MC that it was a relatively straight-forward case as it was not my word against anybody at all since the evidence was to be found clearly documented in the file notes that I had extracted from the ADHB (or in their signed affidavit that there wasn't anymore evidence e.g., there were no medication charts that had been signed by a responsible clinician).

This is what MC told me:

FW: Query from reception.
to: Kelly Roe
cc: Anna Adams
Hershla Ifwersen

Dec 13, 2021, 9:17 AM

to Kelly, Anna

Dear Kelly
Thank you for your enquiry seeking legal advice in relation to healthcare you received.
We are sorry to hear about your circumstances. However, we are not in a position to assist you. MC acts for hospitals, health professionals and professional disciplinary bodies in Auckland and New Zealand. This means that we are likely to face a conflict of interest in your matter...

Yours faithfully,
K Roe
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QUESTION:

If Meridith Connell conflicts out of cases against hospitals, health professionals, and professional disciplinary bodies in Auckland and New Zealand -- then who, in Auckland, has the warrant to prosecute crimes committed by employees in the hospitals, health professions, and corruption within the professional disciplinary bodies?

Kelly Roe.

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From: K Roe (Account suspended)

Dear Ministry of Justice,

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/n...

Is that why this clown needed to drive into cars to be prosecuted?
Because that was police prosecution and not MC who would have been prevented from doing anything because of 'conflict' whereby it never can see corruption or wrong-doing by government employees?

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Kia ora K Roe,

Thank you for contacting the Ministry of Justice.

The Ministry of Justice cannot provide you with legal advice which is what you will need in this case. Free services are available to the public from the Community Law Centre. Find out more at https://communitylaw.org.nz/

You can also discuss this issue with the Citizens Advice Bureau who may be able to provide general advice on your rights in this matter. Please go to https://www.cab.org.nz/ for more information.

Ngā mihi

Ministerial Relations and Services
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DDI: +64 4 918 8800
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-----Original Message-----
From: K Roe <[FOI #17948 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 12:42 pm
To: [Ministry of Justice request email]
Subject: Official Information request - Warrant for Prosecution (Auckland).

Dear Ministry of Justice,

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

If I understand the situation correctly, the Government pays one major law firm in each region to do the work involved in Crown Prosecution. In Auckland, that firm is MC:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/4528...

I emailed MC and requested they prosecute a case of unlawful detention in conditions of torture and unlawful drugging that occurred in 2020 at the Auckland City Hospital. Given what is going on, now, with Lake Alice prosecution (or not) this is a case of public interest as to what is going on in our hospitals not however many years ago -- but *today*.

I informed MC that it was a relatively straight-forward case as it was not my word against anybody at all since the evidence was to be found clearly documented in the file notes that I had extracted from the ADHB (or in their signed affidavit that there wasn't anymore evidence e.g., there were no medication charts that had been signed by a responsible clinician).

This is what MC told me:

FW: Query from reception.
to: Kelly Roe
cc: Anna Adams
Hershla Ifwersen

Dec 13, 2021, 9:17 AM

to Kelly, Anna

Dear Kelly
Thank you for your enquiry seeking legal advice in relation to healthcare you received.
We are sorry to hear about your circumstances. However, we are not in a position to assist you. MC acts for hospitals, health professionals and professional disciplinary bodies in Auckland and New Zealand. This means that we are likely to face a conflict of interest in your matter...

Yours faithfully,
K Roe
__________________

QUESTION:

If Meridith Connell conflicts out of cases against hospitals, health professionals, and professional disciplinary bodies in Auckland and New Zealand -- then who, in Auckland, has the warrant to prosecute crimes committed by employees in the hospitals, health professions, and corruption within the professional disciplinary bodies?

Kelly Roe.

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From: K Roe (Account suspended)

Dear [email address],

I am not asking you for legal advice about a particular case.

I am asking whose job it is to prosecute crimes within the ADHB / by individual clinicians, in Auckland.

MC appears to hold the warrant in a monopolistic fashion and despite all the government money that goes their way for them to prosecute crimes, they are claiming to be conflicted out of prosecuting crimes within the ADHB / by individual clinicians, in Auckland.

Does that mean that the ADHB / individual clinicians are paying them monies to avoid prosecution, or does that mean the central government is responsible for them seeing / prosecuting no crimes within the ADHB / by individual clinicians, in Auckland?

I am trying to get a handle on whether the UN needs to start having some international trials of the senior officials in NZ who refuse to allow crimes to be prosecuted etc.

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

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Kia ora K Row

We believe there may have been some confusion about the context of your request, so we provide a fuller response below.

It is unclear whether you are seeking to take a civil action or private prosecution in your own capacity against the Auckland District Health Board (or particular employees of the Health Board), or whether you are seeking to initiate an investigation and prosecution by the State.

Meredith Connell appears to have understood you to be seeking the former (civil action or private prosecution). They informed you that they would likely be conflicted in acting for you against the Health Board or medical professionals as they act for the Health Board and medical professionals in other matters. In addition to holding the Crown Solicitor warrant for Auckland, Meredith Connell also has a private practice.

The Ministry’s response of 15 December 2021 – that it cannot provide you with legal advice – was also based on the assumption that you are seeking to take a civil action or private prosecution. However, your reply the same day suggests that you are actually seeking information about an investigation and prosecution by the State.

If you believe that the Health Board or an employee of the Health Board has committed a criminal offence, the appropriate agency to contact in the first instance is New Zealand Police. Police are responsible for investigating most criminal offences. However, Police may refer you to another prosecuting agency if that is more appropriate for the particular conduct you are complaining about. You can contact them by calling 105 or by visiting your nearest Police Station. More information on your local station can be found at: police.govt.nz/contact-us/stations

Whether a matter that proceeds to prosecution is prosecuted by the Police (or another agency) or the Crown Solicitor is a separate matter. More information about when a matter will be prosecuted by the Crown Solicitor can be found on our website: justice.govt.nz/about/lawyers-and-service-providers/criminal-procedure-act/crown-prosecutions/

We trust this clarifies matters.

Ngā mihi

Ministerial Relations and Services
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From: K Roe <[FOI #17948 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 10:49 am
To: [Ministry of Justice request email]
Subject: [SUSPECT SPAM]RE: Official Information request - Warrant for Prosecution (Auckland).

Dear [Ministry of Justice request email],

I am not asking you for legal advice about a particular case.

I am asking whose job it is to prosecute crimes within the ADHB / by individual clinicians, in Auckland.

MC appears to hold the warrant in a monopolistic fashion and despite all the government money that goes their way for them to prosecute crimes, they are claiming to be conflicted out of prosecuting crimes within the ADHB / by individual clinicians, in Auckland.

Does that mean that the ADHB / individual clinicians are paying them monies to avoid prosecution, or does that mean the central government is responsible for them seeing / prosecuting no crimes within the ADHB / by individual clinicians, in Auckland?

I am trying to get a handle on whether the UN needs to start having some international trials of the senior officials in NZ who refuse to allow crimes to be prosecuted etc.

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

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Kia ora K Roe,

Thank you for contacting the Ministry of Justice.

The Ministry of Justice cannot provide you with legal advice which is what you will need in this case. Free services are available to the public from the Community Law Centre. Find out more at https://communitylaw.org.nz/

You can also discuss this issue with the Citizens Advice Bureau who may be able to provide general advice on your rights in this matter. Please go to https://www.cab.org.nz/ for more information.

Ngā mihi

Ministerial Relations and Services
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From: K Roe (Account suspended)

Dear [email address],

Thanks for your request for clarification.

1) I have been seeking an investigation and prosecution *by the state*. I am not paid to do this work, I am not paid enough to sub-contract the work out, I believed New Zealand to advertise (at least) that it is a country or nation that is 'rule by law'. I am seeking for the law to be upheld. By the people who are paid to uphold the law.

2) My understanding is that The Government has put more than a few dollars in the pocket of Meredith Connell by giving them the monopoly or sole contract for public prosecution in the Auckland Region. For Meredith Connell to then claim to be conflicted out of private prosecution of government employees (e.g., DHB members or medical professionals) in the Auckland Region makes no sense to me. Surely whatever reason they have to claim to be conflicted out of private prosecution is also a reason they have to claim to be conflicted out of public prosecution. I don't understand how you can claim to be conflicted out of private prosecution but not public. And I don't understand how you can claim to be conflicted out of the role of prosecution in upholding the law when you are the firm with the monopoly contract on prosecution in the region.

With Court Proceedings thus far I am more than $7,000 against me (and all the filing fees) because the Auckland DHB chose to hire a Queens Counsel to defend themselves against my claims rather than working to understand what went wrong and ensure that it would not happen to any other person. They choose to hire Queens Counsel so they can continue to unlawfully detain in conditions of torture and unlawfully drug New Zealanders. They chose to hire a Queens Counsel to file against a person who has no law degree. They chose to hire a Queens Counsel and instruct them to file such things as 'motion to have proceedings struck out' with the apparently reasonable expectation that they could not fail to have costs awarded to them (against me).

I will lodge a complaint to the police.

Then when they tell me they can't / won't do anything I will tell that to the UN. Yawn. Develop already.

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

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Dear [email address],

This is not a country that is 'rule by law'.
The Government will not allow the law to be upheld.

The Government pays individuals to go about the developing world blackbirding for the detention / slave camp government institutions of abuse that we like to call 'universities' and they practically arrange for the kids to be raped and poisoned and beaten until their visas expire and they are deported without their degrees. The Universities won't allow them to work to internationally accepted standards of scholarship and will only sign them off if they agree to work in considerable excess of requirements for the Degree. But really it seems to be about choosing all and only the students who find the likes of Dr Green and Dr Leeks to be motivating and inspiring.

Where is the evidence to the contrary?

I'm looking for the evidence to the contrary...

And I can't seem to find it. Nobody can say that I don't ask for help or that I haven't been asking for help.

Where is the evidence that there is anything other than corruption, here?

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

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Dear Ministry of Justice,

I suppose I could email every single lawyer from Meredith Connell and ask them to publicly prosecute the case. Then, if they claim to be conflicted out, I have the reason they think they have for that. That reason can then be supplied to the law society (haha for all the work they do for the quality and integrity of the law profession including investigating allegations of conflict) and the government) and then the UN.

I mean when we are done patting ourselves on the back for having the 'lowest perceived rate of corruption' for may as well have had their eyes poked out reasons...

Yours faithfully,

K Roe

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Dear Ministry of Justice,

Hey, I have an idea for you. It goes like this: Let's see how much money we can get 'students' (from all around the world) to pay us...

Then we won't let them into the country... And we won't provide supervision. For which they will count themselves lucky because the only purpose of supervisors is to say 'sloooooooooow dooooooooooown' and 'garbage garbage garbage just re-write it one more time -- m'kay' and to instruct changes so that it will be less acceptable to external examiners...

And then we won't get their work to external examiners.

Because... What? Did they think they were enrolling in some sub-standard pay money and get sent a degree in the mail degree? What kind of shitty University system did they think we had in NZ where students would pay x amount of dollars and spend x amount of years working and then actually expect to be given acknowledgement or credit for the work that they did.

Hey, I know...

If they think they are so smart then they can sue their Degree out of us -- right?

They can slave for the courts for no salary or fee (we didn't give them law degrees so we would never have to pay them -- right)?

Hey, I know. All the law degrees expire in 3 years. Didn't you know? All our judges have to give their salaries back because they weren't legitimately judges. Because their brains atrophied 3 years post-graduation. Because we intentionally designed the law degrees so that there wouldn't be anything worth knowing in the content of the degree 3 years post-graduation it would be obsolete.

Then we can just keep everyone on disability. Right? Incapacitated.

The government is the major employer... Private business / companies and the like only continue to exist because of the government hand-outs they get.

And then you see how the government chooses to distribute the money around.

Chooses who the doctors say get to die! die! die!

Or something.

Because nobody wanted to be a Doctor... So they had to develop this television show... They had to develop this character 'Chris Warner' who was a philanderer. Ooooooooh. And now, all of a sudden, people are so motivated and inspired to do that job for all the right reasons. Following their passion. Right. That's what that means.

NZ does not have a post-code lottrery. The ideology is that not only will out health system be incredibly racist (how low can we get and keep that life expectancy amongst other things) but also that there be a post-code inevitability. Triage in the hospital / tertiary health system goes like this: What is the post-code of your GP's practice (the bulk of the patients enrolled there). Then they know who has been marked to die their nasty bruish and short lives. Else you show them your health insurance on the door. When you want to book a private room for you and your alleged son to do anything you want with at the discretion of the politicians -- right? That's how fairness looks in NZ?

As for the good people who contribute to the economy (who are acknowledged as having lives worth living, grudgingly, maybe by the government)... They are expectedt o pay for healthcare in Sydney.

New Zealanders are expected to be 2nd class (maybe 3rd class) Australians. Right? HOw low can Australia keep New Zealanders so that people will settle for less in Australia. Right?

How much FEDERAL (rather than state) funding does NSW get? How about Victoria?

How much FEDERAL (rather than state) funding does NZ get?

NZ is a state of Australia (it is regarded to be a state of Australia in the Australian constitution therefore that is doubly entrenched).

But NZ does not comply with any of the federal regulations. I mean.. It mints it's own money. The most trafficked currency in the world (or similar). It doesn't do any of the things it's supposed to do. Nursing ratio. Etc.

Because the people of NZ are expected to pay for healtlhcare in Australia.

Why is Chris Cairnes getting healthcare in Australia?

Why aren't New Zealanders getting any healthcare?

Why can't we supply applications to enrol to people who want to apply (not becuase they were motivated and inspired by Chris Warner to be a rich philanderer. Not because they were motivated and inspired by getting away with rape or murder or wrongful death or deciding who must die! die! die!).

Why can't we publically advertise jobs?

Why can't we hire based on merit?

Why can't we pay people a fair wage for good and honest work?

Why must be be a nation of slavers ensuring that we don't have a health system, education system, justice system. Detention camp exclusion zone of the arse end of the world.

All the nuclear fall-out drifts in this direction... And the government only works to sell-out the health of it's own people. It's soooooooooo competitive... If you aren't any good if you can't build or do anything then just go about making sure nobody else can function. The hospital system thinks it's an involuntary detention camp.

People who want help with mental health cant get help because the mental health system is an involuntary detention camp system is all. There's nothing here. Nobody home.

No federal funding.

Perhaps it is Australia's fault that there's nothing in NZ. They sell this ideology that the best of NZ is forced to flee to Australia to take up positions as 2nd or 3rd class Australians to black-bird a bunch of slave-labor for the ... Well.. Ultimate detriment of the development.

Where is the manufacturing? Stuck there. Not processing any of the things coming out of the ground. Never mind things like satellites or actual recepies for vaccines.. The stuff requiring innovation and creativity. The basic engineering isn't happening.

What has to happen to prevent and prohibit and confuse and obstruct and deny...

Developmetn is the default trajectory. So what is the source of holding everything back? The invisible hand.. Preventing and prohibiting and confusing and obstructing.

Tower of Babel...

Yours faithfully,

K Roe

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It's like NZ is the final electron acceptor... The sink-hole. It's like the sink-hole of the world where, because of geography and the wind and the water currents all the garbage and rubbish is drawn here...

Pulled here.

That's the thing of it.

The way to view it. Pulled here. This pull. To create good jobs for good people like Chris Whelan to go visit the children of Vietnam and Brazil and Malaysia... To try and get 'custodians' or 'guardians' signing 14 year old children up to study 'finance' degrees at AUT (to be deported with no job post-graduation)...

...
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Pulled here...

The amount of money the government chooses to pay...

10 million dollars (I heard it was) to Dr Fraser (I think his name is) to ensure that no vaccines are developed in NZ, not on his watch, it's like they pay him to ensure that nobody with the capacity to do that is allowed to do anything anywhere near that, in NZ, and only people who will be similarly obstructive (soooooo competitive) will be funded...

Harlene Hayes... Love what she's done for the development of the University of Otago... Closing most of the departments down... Trying to funnell more and more and more students into and through the same core classes where the answers are given to the studnets (or not) on the basis of the private tutoring system developed around their residential hall...

This real culture of keeping your head down and your eyes closed...

The delightful chosen children of Carrington College now get to walk past the Baxter Memorial on their way into Chemistry etc... To serve as a reminder of what the government will do to you if you don't follow orders including orders to go die upon request. I mean, it's sooooo competitive you will do anything anything anything -- right?

How much more money would you pay to go to the University of Sydney? Things are less oppressive there?

Western Australia?

I mean... Auckland got someone from England to be VC of Auckland, now, and Harlene got shipped to WA...

See how the shit flows around...

I suppose it's to prevent and prohibit and confuse and obstruct the development of secondary manufacturing in WA.

For the benefit of...

Um...

How much more would you pay to go to Harvard?

It is about that, really, at the end of the day. ABout how shitty places like Oxford and Harvard are that they just go about forcing everywhere else to be shittier than tehm. The whole how low can we go path to the annihiliation of us all?

That's the ideology from Canberra -- right? Inspired and motivated by the history of the development of NZ... Which makes things obvious because of how many years we are behind.

Because it's a hierarchy and it's linear. Of course. So the leaders here are forced to run behind everyone and everywhere else only.

On rails.

How low... How slow... Can we go?

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I mean this tennis thing... I haven't read the judgment. But it sure as shit looks like the underarm bowl all over again.

Poor sports.

Justice not=fairness. Not in Australia.

Free Australia.

Sing the people of New York.

I mean... How bad do things need to be in Australia so that people can feel better about being American?

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child trafficking...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/internatio...

yeah, that NZ university reputation...

timely justice.

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