Historic assault claims

Glenn Collis made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police

Response to this request is long overdue. By law New Zealand Police should have responded by now (details and exceptions). The requester can complain to the Ombudsman.

From: Glenn Collis

Dear New Zealand Police,

Under the OIA
If a memmber of the public walks into a NZ Police station to lay a historic assault complaint.
What is the Prossedures & Protocols by the NZ Police to take the statement.
Also what would be the Procedures & Protocols in the NZ Police in refussing to take the ststement from the memmber of the public

Yours faithfully,

Glenn Collis

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From: Glenn Collis

Dear New Zealand Police,

When are you going to answer my request?
As by the New Zealand police remaining silent it is my understanding that SILENCE is CONSENT.
Which I would then have the wright to answer on behalf of the New Zealand police?
Which would then become a legal statment onbehalf of the New Zealand Police.

Yours faithfully,

Glenn of Collis

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New Zealand Police

Dear Glenn,

Thank you for your email.

Could you please advise whether this enquiry relates to your email of
30/10/2012 concerning statement you wish to give to Police (see below)?

If so, we replied to you on 31/10/12 asking for some more information so
we could help with your request and I can't find record of an email from
you providing that information.

What we wanted to know was who have you tried to give your statement
to and where, as well as what do you wish to give a statement about.

If you can get back to us with that information we can resolve your
original email.

Kind regards

PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM
NZ POLICE

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-----Glenn Collis <[OIA #654 email]> wrote:
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To: OIA requests at New Zealand Police <[New Zealand Police request email]>
From: Glenn Collis <[OIA #654 email]>
Date: 25/11/2012 01:27PM
Subject: Re: Official Information Act request - Historic assault claims

     Dear New Zealand Police,
    
     When are you going to answer my request?
     As by the New Zealand police remaining silent it is my
     understanding that SILENCE is CONSENT.
     Which I would then have the wright to answer on behalf of the New
     Zealand police?
     Which would then become a legal statment onbehalf of the New
     Zealand Police.
    
     Yours faithfully,
    
     Glenn of Collis
    
    
    
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Dear Glenn

Thank you for your email. Who have you tried to give your statement too,
can you advise where or who. And also what do you wish to give a
statement about.

Kind regards

PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM
NZ POLICE
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From: Glenn Collis <[email address]>
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Date: 30/10/2012 08:21PM
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Submitted on 30 Oct 2012 - 19:21
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   Your Name: Glenn Collis
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I have been trying to give a statement to police but they are refusing
to  
take my statement.
The Ombudsmen Act 1975 provides that you must first make a complaint
to the  
police and request that your complaint be investigated under section
33 of  
the Police Act 1958.
As how am i ment to send a complaint to the Ombudsman if the police
wont  
investigate my complaint & take a statement
Thanks
Glenn of Collis

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From: Glenn Collis

Dear New Zealand Police,
I sent you a email on 1/11/2012 but have not recieved a responce from the Police yet.
18/10/20012 I went to PN Police to give a historic assualt complaint for an beating that I received from A PN AOS memmber on 18/10/2005.
I spoke to B Amas at the front desk who knew the situation as he was the negotiating officer on the day.He then advised me he could take the statement as he was involved in the incident on 18/10/2005.
He said he would pass the information on & get a Peace Officer to call me.
A couple of days latter I recieved a phone call from Phil Ward of the PN Police who arranged for me to go to the PN Police on 31/10/2012 to give a Statement which I agreed to.
Then on 30/12/2012 I recieved a phone call from Phil Ward who then advised me that he would not take a statement off me as he had been told by Nick Dobson under NO circumstances was any officer allowed to take a statement off me.
I ask why but he refused to say anymore as he had been ordered by Nick Dobson not to comment.
on 20/8/2012 under the OIA I requested for a copie of the full file regarding the incident on 18/10/2012.
On 20/9/2012 Nick Dobson sent me part of the file but is refusing to release the rest.
I did have Gregory Hudson start to look at the file before he retired but the problem he had was that alot of the file was missing.
Then when it was passed onto Nick Dobson he has refused to look into my allegation.
I would like to resolve this issue I have with the NZ Police in a peaceful productive manner.
I would like to have a meeting with Peter Marshall or his seniour staff to resolve the issue.

Yours faithfully,

Glenn of Collis

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New Zealand Police

Dear Glenn,

Thank you, the information you have provided below will enable us to
progress your concerns about not being able to give Police a statement.

Kind regards,
Nick Butler

PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM
NZ POLICE

-----Glenn Collis <[OIA #654 email]> wrote:
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To: <[New Zealand Police request email]>
From: Glenn Collis <[OIA #654 email]>
Date: 26/11/2012 11:41AM
Subject: Re: Official Information Act request - Historic assault claims

     Dear New Zealand Police,
     I sent you a email on 1/11/2012 but have not recieved a responce
     from the Police yet.
     18/10/20012 I went to PN Police to give a historic assualt
     complaint for an beating that I received from A PN AOS memmber on
     18/10/2005.
     I spoke to B Amas at the front desk who knew the situation as he
     was the negotiating officer on the day.He then advised me he could
     take the statement as he was involved in the incident on
     18/10/2005.
     He said he would pass the information on & get a Peace Officer to
     call me.
     A couple of days latter I recieved a phone call from Phil Ward of
     the PN Police who arranged for me to go to the PN Police on
     31/10/2012 to give a Statement which I agreed to.
     Then on 30/12/2012 I recieved a phone call from Phil Ward who then
     advised me that he would not take a statement off me as he had been
     told by Nick Dobson under NO circumstances was any officer allowed
     to take a statement off me.
     I ask why but he refused to say anymore as he had been ordered by
     Nick Dobson not to comment.
     on 20/8/2012 under the OIA I requested for a copie of the full file
     regarding the incident on 18/10/2012.
     On 20/9/2012 Nick Dobson sent me part of the file but is refusing
     to release the rest.
     I did have Gregory Hudson start to look at the file before he
     retired but the problem he had was that alot of the file was
     missing.
     Then when it was passed onto Nick Dobson he has refused to look
     into my allegation.
     I would like to resolve this issue I have with the NZ Police in a
     peaceful productive manner.
     I would like to have a meeting with Peter Marshall or his seniour
     staff to resolve the issue.
    
     Yours faithfully,
    
     Glenn of Collis
    
     -----Original Message-----
    
     Dear Glenn,
    
     Thank you for your email.
    
     Could you please advise whether this enquiry relates to your email
     of
     30/10/2012 concerning statement you wish to give to Police (see
     below)?
    
     If so, we replied to you on 31/10/12 asking for some more
     information so
     we could help with your request and I can't find record of an
     email from
     you providing that information.
    
     What we wanted to know was who have you tried to give your
     statement
     to and where, as well as what do you wish to give a statement
     about.
    
     If you can get back to us with that information we can resolve
     your
     original email.
    
     Kind regards
    
     PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM
     NZ POLICE
    
     NB
     -----Glenn Collis <[FOI #654 email]> wrote:
     -----
    
     To: OIA requests at New Zealand Police <[New Zealand Police
     request email]>
     From: Glenn Collis <[FOI #654 email]>
     Date: 25/11/2012 01:27PM
     Subject: Re: Official Information Act request - Historic assault
     claims
    
          Dear New Zealand Police,
         
          When are you going to answer my request?
          As by the New Zealand police remaining silent it is my
          understanding that SILENCE is CONSENT.
          Which I would then have the wright to answer on behalf of the
     New
          Zealand police?
          Which would then become a legal statment onbehalf of the New
          Zealand Police.
         
          Yours faithfully,
         
          Glenn of Collis
         
         
         
         
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From: Glenn Collis

Dear New Zealand Police,

Can you please answer these simple questions.

What are the NZ Police procedures & protocols for taking a statement off a member ot the NZ public?

What are the NZ Police guidelines for taking a statement off a member of the NZ public?

Yours faithfully,

Glenn of Collis

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From: DOBSON, Nicholas (Nick)
New Zealand Police


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Dear Mr Collis

 

I have been passed the attached message.

 

I would refer to my email to you on Friday 21 September 2012. (see
attached PDF file).

 

N W (Nick) Dobson

Acting professional Standards Manager Central District

 

 

-----Glenn Collis <[1][OIA #654 email]> wrote:
-----

To: <[2][New Zealand Police request email]>
From: Glenn Collis <[3][OIA #654 email]>
Date: 26/11/2012 11:41AM
Subject: Re: Official Information Act request - Historic assault claims

     Dear New Zealand Police,
     I sent you a email on 1/11/2012 but have not recieved a responce
     from the Police yet.
     18/10/20012 I went to PN Police to give a historic assualt
     complaint for an beating that I received from A PN AOS memmber on
     18/10/2005.
     I spoke to B Amas at the front desk who knew the situation as he
     was the negotiating officer on the day.He then advised me he could
     take the statement as he was involved in the incident on
     18/10/2005.
     He said he would pass the information on & get a Peace Officer to
     call me.
     A couple of days latter I recieved a phone call from Phil Ward of
     the PN Police who arranged for me to go to the PN Police on
     31/10/2012 to give a Statement which I agreed to.
     Then on 30/12/2012 I recieved a phone call from Phil Ward who then
     advised me that he would not take a statement off me as he had been
     told by Nick Dobson under NO circumstances was any officer allowed
     to take a statement off me.
     I ask why but he refused to say anymore as he had been ordered by
     Nick Dobson not to comment.
     on 20/8/2012 under the OIA I requested for a copie of the full file
     regarding the incident on 18/10/2012.
     On 20/9/2012 Nick Dobson sent me part of the file but is refusing
     to release the rest.
     I did have Gregory Hudson start to look at the file before he
     retired but the problem he had was that alot of the file was
     missing.
     Then when it was passed onto Nick Dobson he has refused to look
     into my allegation.
     I would like to resolve this issue I have with the NZ Police in a
     peaceful productive manner.
     I would like to have a meeting with Peter Marshall or his seniour
     staff to resolve the issue.
    
     Yours faithfully,
    
     Glenn of Collis
    
     -----Original Message-----
    
     Dear Glenn,
    
     Thank you for your email.
    
     Could you please advise whether this enquiry relates to your email
     of
     30/10/2012 concerning statement you wish to give to Police (see
     below)?
    
     If so, we replied to you on 31/10/12 asking for some more
     information so
     we could help with your request and I can't find record of an
     email from
     you providing that information.
    
     What we wanted to know was who have you tried to give your
     statement
     to and where, as well as what do you wish to give a statement
     about.
    
     If you can get back to us with that information we can resolve
     your
     original email.
    
     Kind regards
    
     PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM
     NZ POLICE
    
     NB
     -----Glenn Collis <[FOI #654 email]> wrote:
     -----
    
     To: OIA requests at New Zealand Police <[New Zealand Police
     request email]>
     From: Glenn Collis <[FOI #654 email]>
     Date: 25/11/2012 01:27PM
     Subject: Re: Official Information Act request - Historic assault
     claims
    
          Dear New Zealand Police,
         
          When are you going to answer my request?
          As by the New Zealand police remaining silent it is my
          understanding that SILENCE is CONSENT.
          Which I would then have the wright to answer on behalf of the
     New
          Zealand police?
          Which would then become a legal statment onbehalf of the New
          Zealand Police.
         
          Yours faithfully,
         
          Glenn of Collis
         
         
         
         
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From: Glenn Collis

Dear DOBSON, Nicholas (Nick),

COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT I GAVE YOU ON 02/12/2012

Yours sincerely,

Glenn of Collis

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From: DOBSON, Nicholas (Nick)
New Zealand Police

Mr Collis

I have no record of any contact with you on 02/12/2012.

N W (Nick) Dobson
A/Inspector
Professional Standards Manager Central District

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Collis [mailto:[OIA #654 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:02
To: DOBSON, Nicholas (Nick)
Subject: RE: Re: Official Information Act request - Historic assault claims

Dear DOBSON, Nicholas (Nick),

COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT I GAVE YOU ON 02/12/2012

Yours sincerely,

Glenn of Collis

-----Original Message-----

Dear Mr Collis

 

I have been passed the attached message.

 

I would refer to my email to you on Friday 21 September 2012. (see
attached PDF file).

 

N W (Nick) Dobson

Acting professional Standards Manager Central District

 

 

-----Glenn Collis <[1][FOI #654 email]> wrote:
-----

To: <[2][New Zealand Police request email]>
From: Glenn Collis <[3][FOI #654 email]>
Date: 26/11/2012 11:41AM
Subject: Re: Official Information Act request - Historic assault
claims

     Dear New Zealand Police,
     I sent you a email on 1/11/2012 but have not recieved a
responce
     from the Police yet.
     18/10/20012 I went to PN Police to give a historic assualt
     complaint for an beating that I received from A PN AOS
memmber on
     18/10/2005.
     I spoke to B Amas at the front desk who knew the situation as
he
     was the negotiating officer on the day.He then advised me he
could
     take the statement as he was involved in the incident on
     18/10/2005.
     He said he would pass the information on & get a Peace
Officer to
     call me.
     A couple of days latter I recieved a phone call from Phil
Ward of
     the PN Police who arranged for me to go to the PN Police on
     31/10/2012 to give a Statement which I agreed to.
     Then on 30/12/2012 I recieved a phone call from Phil Ward who
then
     advised me that he would not take a statement off me as he
had been
     told by Nick Dobson under NO circumstances was any officer
allowed
     to take a statement off me.
     I ask why but he refused to say anymore as he had been
ordered by
     Nick Dobson not to comment.
     on 20/8/2012 under the OIA I requested for a copie of the
full file
     regarding the incident on 18/10/2012.
     On 20/9/2012 Nick Dobson sent me part of the file but is
refusing
     to release the rest.
     I did have Gregory Hudson start to look at the file before he
     retired but the problem he had was that alot of the file was
     missing.
     Then when it was passed onto Nick Dobson he has refused to
look
     into my allegation.
     I would like to resolve this issue I have with the NZ Police
in a
     peaceful productive manner.
     I would like to have a meeting with Peter Marshall or his
seniour
     staff to resolve the issue.
    
     Yours faithfully,
    
     Glenn of Collis
    
    

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