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Tactical Options Reporting Data January-June 2018

Mark Hanna made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police

The request was refused by New Zealand Police.

From: Mark Hanna

Tēnā koe,

On three previous occasions (ref 16/11336, 16/7758/11, and IR-01-18-5190), NZ Police has released tactical options reporting (TOR) data under the Official Information Act for 6 month periods between 1 July 2016 and 31 December 2017.

I would like to request some more recent tactical options reporting data.

Please release the following information:

1. TOR data for the 1 January - 30 June 2018 reporting period, in the same format as was released for the July-December 2017 reporting period (ref IR-01-18-5190).

2. The number, and percentage, of the total set of TOR events in this period that have completed the review process. For example, in the data for July-December 2017 released in August 2018 it was reported that there were 2,402 completed TOR events in the TOR database, which amounted to 93% of all TOR events in the TOR database during that period.

3. If possible, please specify for each event whether or not it has completed the review process. I understand that NZ Police has produced some recoded fields in previous releases, but I’m not sure if this particular information can be easily extracted. If it would make the request significantly more difficult or time-consuming, I would be happy for this part to be excluded.

Please also explain any relevant caveats that should be kept in mind when analysing this information.

Please provide all information, including the response letter, in an accessible, searchable format. Please provide the TOR data in a machine-readable format such as CSV or XSLX. I’d be happy if the XSLX format that has been used to release this data previously is used again.

If any part of my request is unclear, please don't hesitate to contact me.

If any of the information that I have requested is unavailable or would be difficult to retrieve, but similar information might be readily available, I would be happy to discuss altering or refining my request.

Nāku, nā,
Mark Hanna

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Here are links to previously requests for this data over different periods:

Q3-4 2016: https://fyi.org.nz/request/5039-tactical...
Q1-2 2017: https://fyi.org.nz/request/6558-tactical...
Q3-4 2017: https://fyi.org.nz/request/8236-tactical...

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The OIA request below has been assigned and is underway.

 

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A response to this request is now overdue. I have lodged a complaint with the Ombudsman.

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Ngā mihi

 

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I intend to complain to the Ombudsman about this refusal, as I can't afford to pay the $684 - $836 fee they have proposed. I believe there is clear public interest in it being released without a fee.

If anyone following this is aware of any relevant case notes published by the Ombudsman, I'd greatly appreciate if they could post links here.

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Hi Mark,
This one is a bit tricky as they have not explicitly stated grounds for refusal. However, you can probably infer that if you don't pay the charge the grounds would be under substantial collation (s18f) - but I suggest going back to clarify this.

As this is an administrative reason for refusal it is not subject to the public interest test, and they can elect to provide the information anyway (which is likely what the letter is suggesting they did previously).

However, if this is their grounds for refusal then I suggest to refer to the Ombudsman's guide on s18f (http://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/syste...)

Specifically, pages 8 (and footnote 15) and 9 which essentially states that the time to redact information and quality assurance (peer review) should not be considered when considering substantial collation (and by implication charging - though they can delay).

This then only leaves the extracting of the data (which they have to do anyway to prepare the report) and the recoding. I would suggest going back to them to clarify that they will refuse under 18f if you don't pay. Refer them to the guide and points and perhaps elect to go without the recoded fields (if possible) and wait until April (or whenever they extract the data). That way it would pretty much remove all their administrative tasks from the equation.

To be honest 10-12 hours seems high for extracting raw data (ie information that is actually held - and therefore not requiring "abstracting" or "transcribing") - so you may want to request a breakdown of the cost involved by the tasks and time required.

Additionally the comment "Furthermore, even when provided, this type of raw data is difficult to understand without the necessary historical, operational, and policy knowledge. New Zealand Police has a team of specialist analysts who work with this data on a routine basis, and understand it well." should have absolutely no bearing on the rationale to release official information that is held.

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Thanks a lot for your advice Roger. I honestly hadn't noticed that NZ Police hadn't stated a specific ground for refusal if I do not pay their fee, though I agree that section 18(f) is almost certainly the one they mean to use.

I have been drafting a complaint to the Ombudsman over the holiday period, though I haven't sent it yet. I guess one advantage this refusal coming right before the summer break is that taking some time to work on a complaint likely won't make it take a whole lot longer to be processed.

One of the things I argue in my current draft complaint is that I don't think the estimate of 10-12 hours is likely accurate. As I've asked for the information to be released in the same format as last time, unless there has been a change to the way in which it is recorded (I have no reason to believe this is the case) then Police will already have written the code that redacts and recodes all the necessary fields. So all that should be required of them to collate the data is exporting it to a spreadsheet (which should be fast) and running code they have already written to recode and redact certain fields (which should also be fast).

Thanks for pointing out the part of the guidance that says peer review etc. doesn't contribute toward "substantial collation or research". That was a point I wasn't aware of. However, the charging guidelines do include "Reasonably required peer review in order to ensure that the above tasks [including collation and editing] have been carried out correctly" under "activities that can be charged for" (page 6): http://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/syste...

Given the provision of the OIA that allows agencies to charge for the release of information is section 15, not section 18(f) (though section 18A(1)(a) is relevant to this sort of thing, they haven't cited it here), I wonder if they may mean to sidestep the issue of withholding grounds entirely? I suppose if that is the case, I would have to argue that the charge is inappropriate in light of section 15(2). I hope an argument regarding the clear public interest in this information being released might still be useful in that context.

If you think I've misinterpreted anything surrounding this relationship between charging for a request and refusing it under section 18(f), please feel free to correct me. I'm not a lawyer so I know I can often be missing important context around these things, or just plainly draw the wrong conclusions.

I agree completely that the strange note at the end of their response is not a valid withholding ground. The fact that they included it at all makes me suspect that they are not happy with the unflattering coverage that has resulted from previous TOR data they have released under the OIA, and this may have been a factor in their decision to not release it without a charge this time.

I'm not sure if asking them to confirm their reason for refusal before I send a complaint to the Ombudsman would be super useful, if only because I think they would take a long time (possible another 20 working days or more) to respond. But I also see no harm in asking, considering I wouldn't necessarily need to wait for a response before sending my complaint to the Ombudsman. It would also give me an opportunity to ask for a breakdown of their estimated costs, as you've also suggested.

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From: Mark Hanna

Tēnā koe,

Thank you for your response to my request. I have a few questions before I decide how to respond.

Could you please clarify for me the grounds under which my request would be refused if I do not agree to pay the fee?

Also, please provide me with a breakdown of the estimated costs for releasing the information I have requested.

In response to my earlier request for the equivalent set of TOR data for January-June 2017 (ref 16/7758/11), in discussing my question of whether additional information could be included instead of being withheld, I was told it would be possible “so long as the total time required to prepare the dataset remains under one hour”.

I am not sure what might have changed in the past year that means the total time required to prepare one of these datasets would now be 10-12 hours, rather than under 1 hour as the response to my previous request indicated was the case?

In the same response I was also told that NZ Police “already have a robust recoding technique established” for certain variables, which would be applied to the new dataset. Would the established recoding techniques not also be used in this case?

Ngā mihi,
Mark Hanna

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I am currently out of office, please contact
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From: Mark Hanna

Tēnā koe,

Can you please confirm that I will receive a response to my latest questions regarding this request no later than Wednesday next week, the 13th of February? That will mark 20 working days since my previous email was received, on the 8th of January. I had hoped that I might have had a response by now, but I haven't heard anything back yet.

Ngā mihi,
Mark Hanna

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From: MAUNDER, Renee
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The team working on this response has confirmed that you will have it by
13 February. The Superintendent signing it out has had to take a short
notice trip to Australia. He is expected back in the next couple of days.

 

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From: Mark Hanna

Kia ora Renee,

Thanks for the update.

Ngā mihi,
Mark

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I guess I was right to worry that Police would take 20 working days or more to answer follow-up questions. It's been 21 working days now since I sent them my last questions, and as anyone can see here they haven't yet responded.

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From: Mark Hanna

Tēnā koe,

On Tuesday the 5th of February, I was assured that I would receive a response to my latest questions regarding this request “by 13 February”. It is now the evening of the 18th of February, and I have not yet received any response.

I have checked with the administrator of FYI.org.nz to make sure nothing has gone wrong at their end that might have prevented me from receiving a response sent by NZ Police, such as a response having been sent to an incorrect email address that may have been manually typed. However, they found no sign of anything of this nature. I’d be grateful to be corrected, but it seems most likely to me that NZ Police have sent no response to this request since the assurance I received on the 5th.

It has now been 23 working days since NZ Police received my latest questions. NZ Police also took 23 working days to respond to my initial request, and in neither case did I receive a notice within 20 working days of NZ Police receiving my questions telling me that a response would take longer than 20 working days to prepare.

Responding to requests for official information as soon as reasonably practicable, and no later than within 20 working days of receiving the request, are legislative obligations of NZ Police. If a response will take longer than 20 working days to prepare, NZ Police are then obliged to notify the requester of this, telling them also the reason for the delay and the amount of extra time that will be needed.

These are fundamental and basic requirements of the Official Information Act. I am certain that anyone involved with handling this request will already be very familiar with them. So I am at a loss as to why NZ Police have consistently failed to meet their legal obligations on this request. I’m sure you can appreciate how frustrating it is from my perspective.

One of my questions NZ Police received 23 working days ago regarded a breakdown of the $684 - $836 fee proposed to me on 2018/12/20. As it would have been necessary to produce such a breakdown in the process of creating this estimate, I would have expected that NZ Police would have that breakdown already on hand, and it would therefore have been reasonably practicable for it to be provided to me within a matter of hours or, at most, a few working days.

Please send through the information I have requested, which I should have received no later than last Wednesday. If it cannot be sent yet, please explain why not and let me know when I can expect to receive it.

Ngā mihi,
Mark Hanna

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From: MAUNDER, Renee
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Hi

I will talk to the team. If it was ready to be signed last week there's no reason for it not to have gone by now. If the Superintendent is still away they should have a delegation in place.

With requests through FYI, they are pretty good about letting us know if something has bounced. I've never had an instance where I've sent something to the site and just had it vanish with no message back. The only issue, and it's pretty minor, is that at Police FYI requests come in through info@police - which is the crime reporting line, so if something big has happened and Police are getting a lot of tips about it an OIA request can take a bit longer to get where it needs to go. We've never lost one and the date starts as soon as it arrives anywhere so it's not a big deal. Requests made through out website are automatically logged and assigned as soon as their put in, but that doesn't work for FYI because it's not public so it doesn't have the transparency they need.

Renée

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I wonder where NZ Police got the idea that my email on 2019-01-08, which I can see was received by them thanks to the automatic response, was sent on 2019-01-17? Perhaps the recipient forwarded it internally on the 17th, and this was wrongly interpreted as the date on which it was received by NZ Police.

It's frustrating that they have provided only a list of tasks and an estimated total time, instead of the breakdown I clearly requested. I'm not sure if they have used a semantic quibble (I asked for "costs" instead of time) to justify this omission, or if they just haven't created such a breakdown but didn't want to clarify that.

I really have no idea how this response could possibly have taken them so long to prepare, given how little information it contains. Though it is interesting to hear that they were already thinking of charging me back in August 2018, when I requested the previous dataset.

Thankfully, it sounds like some of the tasks required to release this data will be spent on tasks that must already be carried out when NZ Police prepare their next TOR report for publishing. Though it's worth noting that they do those for 12 month periods now rather than 6 months, as was the case when the raw data was first requested by Emmy Rākete here: https://fyi.org.nz/request/5039-tactical...

The previous report, for January-December 2017, was published in September 2018. So I expect I'll have more luck if I wait until the data has been prepared for that report and then request it again.

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From: Mark Hanna

Tēnā koe,

Thank you for your response.

Could you please clarify for me if NZ Police have not broken down the 10-12 hour estimate into how much time each task would require? I’m a little confused that the response to my request for a breakdown contains only this total estimate and a list of tasks that will be involved, rather than a more specific breakdown as I had expected.

Thank you also for your note on the TOR report that will be produced for the 2018 calendar year. Considering these reports were produced bi-annually for 6 month periods at the point when raw TOR data was first released (2016-12-20, ref 16/11336), but they are now produced for calendar years instead, I can see that it might well be practical for me to consider TOR data in terms of calendar years rather than in 6 month intervals. Especially if this might make it easier for the data to be processed for release.

You are correct that I would like to request this information on a regular basis. It would be my hope that NZ Police might consider publishing it proactively, perhaps at the same time as each annual TOR report, without requiring an OIA request each time.

I have certainly found the information presented in past TOR reports to be useful, but unfortunately there are many questions that I cannot answer by looking at these reports. I have also considered, on your earlier advice, making a number of smaller and more specific requests. However, I have found that the sort of questions I would like to ask have been very easy for me to answer for myself quickly - typically in a matter of minutes - by analysing the full set of raw data that has been released. In contrast, I would expect the time required for NZ Police to answer a potentially large number of smaller questions each as a separate OIA request would likely be an inefficient use of time for both of us, so I would prefer to avoid it if possible.

In the process of producing the TOR report for 2018, I expect it would be necessary for the task of identifying and removing duplicate information to be carried out before the data could be used. Many of the other tasks, such as recoding and redacting pre-specified fields in the same way as has been done previously, seem likely to require significantly less time to complete than cleaning the dataset.

In light of this, might it be feasible for NZ Police to release the TOR data on which the January-December 2018 TOR report will have been based without incurring a charge, once that data has been processed for the preparation of that report?

If there are any other ways in which I might be able to refine my request so as to make it easier for NZ Police to provide this data, I’d be happy to discuss them.

Ngā mihi,
Mark Hanna

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Tēnā koe,

It has been over six weeks now since you received my last email, in which I asked a few questions including whether or not it would be feasible for NZ Police to release the TOR data on which the January-December 2018 TOR report will have been based without incurring a charge, once that data has been processed for the preparation of that report.

Can you please let me know when I can expect a response to these questions? I had anticipated that I would have heard back before 20 working days had elapsed, but this has frustratingly not been the case with any of the questions I have asked NZ Police about the release of this data since my initial request over four months ago.

Ngā mihi,
Mark Hanna

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Tēnā koe,

It has been over six weeks now since you received my last email, in which I asked a few questions including whether or not it would be feasible for NZ Police to release the TOR data on which the January-December 2018 TOR report will have been based without incurring a charge, once that data has been processed for the preparation of that report.

Can you please let me know when I can expect a response to these questions? I had anticipated that I would have heard back before 20 working days had elapsed, but this has frustratingly not been the case with any of the questions I have asked NZ Police about the release of this data since my initial request over four months ago.

Ngā mihi,
Mark Hanna

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From: Mark Hanna

Tēnā koe,

I have now been waiting over eleven weeks for a response to my email on the 19th of February. I also sent a follow-up message asking for a response on the 5th of April, which received no response.

Can you please let me know when I can expect to receive an answer to my question from February? I did not anticipate that it would take this long for NZ Police to respond, and I have no idea what could have caused such a lengthy delay over nearly three months.

Ngā mihi,
Mark Hanna

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