Seized firearms
Malcolm Lock made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
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From: Malcolm Lock
Dear New Zealand Police,
Reference Official Information Act request, https://fyi.org.nz/request/6443-unaccoun... and your reply ref: 17/6794/3
You have stated “if you narrow your request Police may then be in a position to review this decision"
I will now narrow the request down to a specific policing district office, general location of where the seized firearms were seized by police and make of particular firearm that I request information relating too.
During a domestic incident in northern rural Hawke's Bay with in the last 12 months the Hawke's Bay policing team seized several firearms from a property. Amongst these firearms were two Gervarm semiautomatic .22 rifles.
No charges were laid against anyone from the property or involved in the incident but police continued to retain the firearms for an extended period.
Once a well know firearms lawyer was engaged, most of the firearms were returned to the lawful owner. All except one, a Gervarm semiautomatic .22 rifle. This rifle was seized with a suppressor attached. The suppressor that was attached was returned to the owner.
Questions
1. Has the Gervarm firearm been located? if so where was it located
2. Why was it not in the same location as the other seized firearms from the same incident and not returned at the same time?
3. If it has not been located yet, what actions are in place to determine its location and why it was removed and by whom?
4. Why was the suppressor removed and consequently returned to the owner without the firearm?
You may have trouble locating the seizure notice as no receipt for the firearms was issued to the licenced owner when they were seized.
Yours faithfully,
Malcolm Lock
New Zealand Police
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Hello Mr Lock
I refer to your request below dated 18 September 2017 in which you
requested -
During a domestic incident in northern rural Hawke's Bay with in the
last 12 months the Hawke's Bay policing team seized several firearms
from a property. Amongst these firearms were two Gervarm semiautomatic
.22 rifles.
No charges were laid against anyone from the property or involved in the
incident but police continued to retain the firearms for an extended
period.
Once a well know firearms lawyer was engaged, most of the firearms were
returned to the lawful owner. All except one, a Gervarm semiautomatic
.22 rifle. This rifle was seized with a suppressor attached. The
suppressor that was attached was returned to the owner.
Questions
1. Has the Gervarm firearm been located? if so where was it located
2. Why was it not in the same location as the other seized firearms from
the same incident and not returned at the same time?
3. If it has not been located yet, what actions are in place to
determine its location and why it was removed and by whom?
4. Why was the suppressor removed and consequently returned to the owner
without the firearm?
The purpose of this letter is to notify you that Police require an
extension of time in which to respond to your request, pursuant to section
15A(1)(b) of the Official Information Act 1982, because consultations
necessary to make a decision on the request are such that a proper
response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the original time
limit.
Police require until 14 November 2017 to provide a substantive response to
your request.
You have the right to complain to the Office of the Ombudsmen about this
extension.
Regards
Deb Collins
Hawkes Bay Official Information Requests | New Zealand Police
P +64 6 831 0700 | E request [1].[email address]
Hastings Police Station | 205 Railway Road | DX MX 10043 | PO Box
49 | Hastings 4156
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From: Malcolm Lock < [6][FOI #6566 email] >
Date: 18/09/2017 11:11AM
Subject: Official Information request - Seized firearms
Dear New Zealand Police,
Reference Official Information Act request, [7]
https://fyi.org.nz/request/6443-unaccoun...
and your reply ref: 17/6794/3
You have stated “if you narrow your request Police may then be in a
position to review this decision"
I will now narrow the request down to a specific policing district office,
general location of where the seized firearms were seized by police and
make of particular firearm that I request information relating too.
During a domestic incident in northern rural Hawke's Bay with in the last
12 months the Hawke's Bay policing team seized several firearms from a
property. Amongst these firearms were two Gervarm semiautomatic .22
rifles.
No charges were laid against anyone from the property or involved in the
incident but police continued to retain the firearms for an extended
period.
Once a well know firearms lawyer was engaged, most of the firearms were
returned to the lawful owner. All except one, a Gervarm semiautomatic .22
rifle. This rifle was seized with a suppressor attached. The suppressor
that was attached was returned to the owner.
Questions
1. Has the Gervarm firearm been located? if so where was it located
2. Why was it not in the same location as the other seized firearms from
the same incident and not returned at the same time?
3. If it has not been located yet, what actions are in place to determine
its location and why it was removed and by whom?
4. Why was the suppressor removed and consequently returned to the owner
without the firearm?
You may have trouble locating the seizure notice as no receipt for the
firearms was issued to the licenced owner when they were seized.
Yours faithfully,
Malcolm Lock
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From: Malcolm Lock
Dear New Zealand Police,
Firstly I would like to make a correction to my original official information act request.
I stated that the suppressor was returned to the owner, as I have been advised this is incorrect and the suppressor is also missing. I do apologize for this mis-information in the original request.
I how ever find your request for an extension to reply to this request
"pursuant to section 15A(1)(b) of the Official Information Act 1982, because consultations necessary to make a decision on the request are such that a proper response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the original time limit", unwarranted and unacceptable as the police have had 6 weeks in to which to make adequate inquiries into this request, including a meeting with the person(s) involved approximately two weeks ago, where upon admissions of wrong doing, apologies and offers of compensation were offered to those involved were made and this official information act request was shown to those involved.
I hereby request that the official information act request be responded to within five (5) working days of receipt of this notice, taking in to account Hawke's Bay anniversary day and labor day. If after such a reasonable (seven weeks) time frame the request is not responded to another complaint to the Ombudsman will lodged
Yours faithfully,
Malcolm Lock
New Zealand Police
Good Morning Malcolm,
Your request has been forwarded to the appropriate department for their
reply.
Regards
Police Public Information
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From: Malcolm Lock <[FOI #6566 email]>
Date: 18/10/2017 12:03AM
Subject: Re: FW: Official Information request - Seized firearms
Dear New Zealand Police,
Firstly I would like to make a correction to my original official
information act request.
I stated that the suppressor was returned to the owner, as I have been
advised this is incorrect and the suppressor is also missing. I do
apologize for this mis-information in the original request.
I how ever find your request for an extension to reply to this request
"pursuant to section 15A(1)(b) of the Official Information Act 1982,
because consultations necessary to make a decision on the request are such
that a proper response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the
original time limit", unwarranted and unacceptable as the police have had
6 weeks in to which to make adequate inquiries into this request,
including a meeting with the person(s) involved approximately two weeks
ago, where upon admissions of wrong doing, apologies and offers of
compensation were offered to those involved were made and this official
information act request was shown to those involved.
I hereby request that the official information act request be responded to
within five (5) working days of receipt of this notice, taking in to
account Hawke's Bay anniversary day and labor day. If after such a
reasonable (seven weeks) time frame the request is not responded to
another complaint to the Ombudsman will lodged
Yours faithfully,
Malcolm Lock
-----Original Message-----
Hello Mr Lock
I refer to your request below dated 18 September 2017 in which you
requested -
During a domestic incident in northern rural Hawke's Bay with in the
last 12 months the Hawke's Bay policing team seized several firearms
from a property. Amongst these firearms were two Gervarm semiautomatic
.22 rifles.
No charges were laid against anyone from the property or involved in the
incident but police continued to retain the firearms for an extended
period.
Once a well know firearms lawyer was engaged, most of the firearms were
returned to the lawful owner. All except one, a Gervarm semiautomatic
.22 rifle. This rifle was seized with a suppressor attached. The
suppressor that was attached was returned to the owner.
Questions
1. Has the Gervarm firearm been located? if so where was it located
2. Why was it not in the same location as the other seized firearms from
the same incident and not returned at the same time?
3. If it has not been located yet, what actions are in place to
determine its location and why it was removed and by whom?
4. Why was the suppressor removed and consequently returned to the owner
without the firearm?
The purpose of this letter is to notify you that Police require an
extension of time in which to respond to your request, pursuant to
section
15A(1)(b) of the Official Information Act 1982, because consultations
necessary to make a decision on the request are such that a proper
response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the original
time
limit.
Police require until 14 November 2017 to provide a substantive response
to
your request.
You have the right to complain to the Office of the Ombudsmen about this
extension.
Regards
Deb Collins
Hawkes Bay Official Information Requests | New Zealand Police
P +64 6 831 0700 | E request [1].[email address]
Hastings Police Station | 205 Railway Road | DX MX 10043 | PO Box
49 | Hastings 4156
[2]www.police.govt.nz Safer Communities Together
Check out NZ Police on [3]Facebook Follow Police on
[4]Twitter
To: OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police <
[5][New Zealand Police request email]>
From: Malcolm Lock < [6][FOI #6566 email] >
Date: 18/09/2017 11:11AM
Subject: Official Information request - Seized firearms
Dear New Zealand Police,
Reference Official Information Act request, [7]
[1]https://fyi.org.nz/request/6443-unaccoun...
and your reply ref: 17/6794/3
You have stated “if you narrow your request Police may then be in a
position to review this decision"
I will now narrow the request down to a specific policing district
office,
general location of where the seized firearms were seized by police and
make of particular firearm that I request information relating too.
During a domestic incident in northern rural Hawke's Bay with in the
last
12 months the Hawke's Bay policing team seized several firearms from a
property. Amongst these firearms were two Gervarm semiautomatic .22
rifles.
No charges were laid against anyone from the property or involved in the
incident but police continued to retain the firearms for an extended
period.
Once a well know firearms lawyer was engaged, most of the firearms were
returned to the lawful owner. All except one, a Gervarm semiautomatic
.22
rifle. This rifle was seized with a suppressor attached. The suppressor
that was attached was returned to the owner.
Questions
1. Has the Gervarm firearm been located? if so where was it located
2. Why was it not in the same location as the other seized firearms from
the same incident and not returned at the same time?
3. If it has not been located yet, what actions are in place to
determine
its location and why it was removed and by whom?
4. Why was the suppressor removed and consequently returned to the owner
without the firearm?
You may have trouble locating the seizure notice as no receipt for the
firearms was issued to the licenced owner when they were seized.
Yours faithfully,
Malcolm Lock
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Hello Mr Lock, please find the response to your request attached.
Regards
Deb Collins
Hawkes Bay Official Information Requests | New Zealand Police
P +64 6 831 0700 | E request [1].[email address]
Hastings Police Station | 205 Railway Road | DX MX 10043 | PO Box
49 | Hastings 4156
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To: OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police <
[5][New Zealand Police request email] >
From: Malcolm Lock < [6][FOI #6566 email] >
Date: 18/10/2017 12:03AM
Subject: Re: FW: Official Information request - Seized firearms
Dear New Zealand Police,
Firstly I would like to make a correction to my original official
information act request.
I stated that the suppressor was returned to the owner, as I have been
advised this is incorrect and the suppressor is also missing. I do
apologize for this mis-information in the original request.
I how ever find your request for an extension to reply to this request
"pursuant to section 15A(1)(b) of the Official Information Act 1982,
because consultations necessary to make a decision on the request are such
that a proper response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the
original time limit", unwarranted and unacceptable as the police have had
6 weeks in to which to make adequate inquiries into this request,
including a meeting with the person(s) involved approximately two weeks
ago, where upon admissions of wrong doing, apologies and offers of
compensation were offered to those involved were made and this official
information act request was shown to those involved.
I hereby request that the official information act request be responded to
within five (5) working days of receipt of this notice, taking in to
account Hawke's Bay anniversary day and labor day. If after such a
reasonable (seven weeks) time frame the request is not responded to
another complaint to the Ombudsman will lodged
Yours faithfully,
Malcolm Lock
-----Original Message-----
Hello Mr Lock
I refer to your request below dated 18 September 2017 in which you
requested -
During a domestic incident in northern rural Hawke's Bay with in the
last 12 months the Hawke's Bay policing team seized several firearms
from a property. Amongst these firearms were two Gervarm semiautomatic
.22 rifles.
No charges were laid against anyone from the property or involved in the
incident but police continued to retain the firearms for an extended
period.
Once a well know firearms lawyer was engaged, most of the firearms were
returned to the lawful owner. All except one, a Gervarm semiautomatic
.22 rifle. This rifle was seized with a suppressor attached. The
suppressor that was attached was returned to the owner.
Questions
1. Has the Gervarm firearm been located? if so where was it located
2. Why was it not in the same location as the other seized firearms from
the same incident and not returned at the same time?
3. If it has not been located yet, what actions are in place to
determine its location and why it was removed and by whom?
4. Why was the suppressor removed and consequently returned to the owner
without the firearm?
The purpose of this letter is to notify you that Police require an
extension of time in which to respond to your request, pursuant to section
15A (1)(b) of the Official Information Act 1982, because consultations
necessary to make a decision on the request are such that a proper
response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the original time
limit.
Police require until 14 November 2017 to provide a substantive response to
your request.
You have the right to complain to the Office of the Ombudsmen about this
extension.
Regards
Deb Collins
Hawkes Bay Official Information Requests | New Zealand Police
P +64 6 831 0700 | E request [1].[email address]
Hastings Police Station | 205 Railway Road | DX MX 10043 | PO Box
49 | Hastings 4156
[2] [7]www.police.govt.nz Safer Communities Together
Check out NZ Police on [3]Facebook Follow Police on
[4]Twitter
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are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this
message in error, you must not peruse, use, distribute or copy this
message or any of its contents.
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