ET Internal Comms, Discussing Public Excess Deaths Analysis

M Bell made this Official Information request to Health New Zealand

Response to this request is long overdue. By law Health New Zealand should have responded by now (details and exceptions). The requester can complain to the Ombudsman.

From: M Bell

Dear Health New Zealand,
Please provide all internal communications between the members of the executive team for Health NZ including meeting minutes, instant messages etc that discuss the response / damage control in relation to the ongoing analysis of the leaked vaccination data indicating very significant safety signals for death. (refer https://kirschsubstack.com/). For search purposes it can be focused on communications after November 1 2023.

Yours faithfully,
M Bell

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Health New Zealand

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From: hnzOIA
Health New Zealand

Tēnā koe M Bell

 

Thank you for your email of 23 December 2023, asking for the following
information under the Official Information Act 1982 (the Act):

"Please provide all internal communications between the members of the
executive team for Health NZ including meeting minutes, instant messages
etc that discuss the response / damage control in relation to the ongoing
analysis of the leaked vaccination data indicating very significant safety
signals for death. (refer
https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlo...).
For search purposes it can be focused on communications after November 1
2023."

This email is to let you know that Te Whatu Ora needs more time to make a
decision on your request.

The Act requires that we advise you of our decision on your request no
later than 20 working days after the day we received your request.
Unfortunately, it will not be possible to meet that time limit and we are
therefore writing to notify you of an extension of the time to make our
decision, to 21 March 2024.

This extension is required because the consultations necessary to make a
decision on your request are such that a proper response cannot reasonably
be made within the original time limit.

If you have any questions, please contact us at [1][Health New Zealand request email]

If you are not happy with this extension, you have the right to make a
complaint to the Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available
at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or by phoning 0800 802 602.

 

Nāku iti noa, nā

 

Government Services

Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora

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Kia ora M Bell
 
I refer to your request for official information, received on 23 December
2023, for: 
 
“Please provide all internal communications between the members of the
executive team for Health NZ including meeting minutes, instant messages
etc that discuss the response / damage control in relation to the ongoing
analysis of the leaked vaccination data indicating very significant safety
signals for death. (refer
https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlo...)
[\"https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlo...)\"].
For search purposes it can be focused on communications after November 1
2023."
An initial search has generated a substantial amount of information
potentially in scope of your request. In order to provide you with the
information requested, could you please refine the scope of your
request, so we can collate the information in a manner that is feasibly
retrievable. We appreciate you are under no obligation to amend your
request, but requests that require substantial collation may be refused
under section 18(f) of the OIA.

Could you please let us know if you wish to refine your reqest, and if
applicable how you would like to refine your request, by COB Friday 1
March 2024.

Ngâ mihi
Government Services
[1][Health New Zealand request email]   

Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
 

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From: M Bell

Dear hnzOIA,
I appreciate you consulting with me on the response.
Please advise approximately how many items of information potentially in the scope of my request were generated in the initial search?
If my request is validly refusable under 18(f) of the OIA 1982 then please refine to focus only on the communications of Margie Apa, to and from the HNZ Executive Team.
Yours sincerely,

M Bell

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Kia ora M Bell,
 
Thank you for your request for information. Please find attached our
response to your request.
 
If you have any questions, please get in touch at
[1][Health New Zealand request email].
 
If you are not happy with this response, you have the right to make a
complaint to the Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available
at [2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or by phoning 0800 802 602.
 
Ngā mihi,
 
Government Services
[3][Health New Zealand request email]   

Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
 
 

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From: M Bell

Dear hnzOIA,
From personal experience doing this type of stuff I know it is not that hard to supply filtered correspondence from 1 person’s office account utilizing the modern suite of tools available. Reading through 18(f) of the act and also the ombudsman’s guide to 18(f) it does not appear you have discharged your responsibility to comply with the act. If it was genuinely the case that substantial collation as per 18(f) needed for the existing scope, why did you not consult with me to further refine, or offer alternative suggestions?
Yours sincerely,
M Bell

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Kia ora M Bell,
 
Thank you for your request for information. Please find attached our
response to your request.
 
If you have any questions, please get in touch at
[1][email address].
 
If you are not happy with this response, you have the right to make a
complaint to the Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available
at [2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or by phoning 0800 802 602.
 
Ngā mihi,

Government Services
[3][email address]    

Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
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From: M Bell

Dear hnzOIA,
I struggle to accept the claim that 18(f) applies, as office 365 could easily filter and provide output for this communication.
Please refine the request to email communication only, focused on Margie Apa's email box to the Health NZ executive team between the dates of Nov 27 2023 and February 29 2024. If this is still refusable under 18(f) of the act please provide a very specific explanation in what way that is the case, and also provide alternative suggestions that could make this information available.
As another suggested alternative please provide any meeting minutes of the Health NZ ET discussing this subject from November 23 through to March 24 inclusive.
Yours sincerely,
M Bell

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