3 Waters - Funding - Evidence of Operational Efficiencies

Micky Turner made this Official Information request to Nanaia Mahuta

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From: Micky Turner

Dear Nanaia Mahuta,

Can you please provide the following information/documentation:

1. How Three Waters will be funded

2. Evidence of 'Operational Efficiencies' for each proposed Three Waters entity (detailed 30 year forecast for each entity)

3. Evidence of how the areas you have chosen to include in each entity create 'Operational Efficiencies'

(particularly how having Entity C split between the two islands would achieve lower costs)

4. Actual detailed cost forecasts for each individual city council over 30 years without Three Waters reforms.

Yours faithfully,

Micky Turner

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Nanaia Mahuta

Tçnâ koe,

On behalf of Hon Nanaia Mahuta, thank you for your email.  Please accept
this as acknowledgement that your email has been received by my office.

While the Minister considers all correspondence to be important, and all
messages are carefully read and considered, it is not always possible to
personally reply to all emails.  As such, the following guidelines apply:

·        Invitations and meeting requests will be processed as soon as
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Thank you for the taking the time to write.
Nga mihi,

 

Office of Hon Nanaia Mahuta
Minister of Foreign Affairs | Minister of Local Government | Associate
Minister for Mâori Development

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Nanaia Mahuta

Tēnā koe Micky

I acknowledge receipt of your official information request dated 22/7/22.

We received your request on 25/7/22. We will endeavour to respond to your request as soon as possible and in any event no later than 19/8/22, being 20 working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to respond to your request by then, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe.

If you have any queries, please feel free to contact our office. If any additional factors come to light which are relevant to your request, please do not hesitate to contact us so that these can be taken into account.

Ngā mihi
Office of Hon Nanaia Mahuta

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From: Micky Turner [mailto:[FOI #19995 email]]
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2022 5:30 PM
To: N Mahuta (MIN) <[Nanaia Mahuta request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - 3 Waters - Funding - Evidence of Operational Efficiencies

Dear Nanaia Mahuta,

Can you please provide the following information/documentation:

1. How Three Waters will be funded

2. Evidence of 'Operational Efficiencies' for each proposed Three Waters entity (detailed 30 year forecast for each entity)

3. Evidence of how the areas you have chosen to include in each entity create 'Operational Efficiencies'

(particularly how having Entity C split between the two islands would achieve lower costs)

4. Actual detailed cost forecasts for each individual city council over 30 years without Three Waters reforms.

Yours faithfully,

Micky Turner

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From: Fergus Broom

Kia ora Micky,

 

Thank you for your OIA requests. For ease, your requests will be combined
into one response. I’m just following up to clarify a couple of points.

 

Can you confirm that in relation to this point:

“1. All written communication between yourself & Deloitte regarding Three
Waters.

Of particular interest is communication regarding this report:

 [1]https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/F...

That you are only after communication between Minister Mahuta and Deloitte
in relation to that report? Additionally, can you provide the link again?
It didn’t come through properly over email so it’s unclear what you’re
referring to.

 

 

Secondly, your request for (since 2017):

“2. All written communication between yourself & others regarding Three
Waters.”

Is likely to be too large. Collating all written communications the
Minister has had on Three Waters in 2017-2022 would likely warrant a
refusal under section 18(f) of the Act, as the information requested
cannot be made available without substantial collation or research.

 

I am happy to assist in refining this request to meet due particularity so
that you can receive a helpful response. Is there any aspect of the Three
Waters reforms, or any stakeholder group, that you would consider refining
these communications to? Bearing in mind that this is a long time period
and the Minister receives a lot of correspondence on this topic.

 

 

Ngâ mihi

Fergus

 

Fergus Broom | Private Secretary – Local Government | Office of Hon Nanaia
Mahuta

 

 

From: Micky Turner
[mailto:[2][FOI #19995 email]] Sent: Friday,
22 July 2022 5:30 PM

To: N Mahuta (MIN) <[3][Nanaia Mahuta request email]>

Subject: Official Information request - 3 Waters - Funding - Evidence of
Operational Efficiencies

Dear Nanaia Mahuta,

 

Can you please provide the following information/documentation:

 

1. How Three Waters will be funded

 

2. Evidence of 'Operational Efficiencies' for each proposed Three Waters
entity (detailed 30 year forecast for each entity)

3. Evidence of how the areas you have chosen to include in each entity
create 'Operational Efficiencies'

(particularly how having Entity C split between the two islands would
achieve lower costs)

4. Actual detailed cost forecasts for each individual city council over 30
years without Three Waters reforms.

Yours faithfully,

 

Micky Turner

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Micky Turner
[mailto:[4][email address]] Sent: Friday,
22 July 2022 5:07 PM

To: N Mahuta (MIN) <[5][Nanaia Mahuta request email]>

Subject: Official Information request - 3 WATERS - Deloitte - Others - All
Communications

Dear Nanaia Mahuta,

 

Can you please provide the following information:

 

From Jan 2017 until now -

 

1. All written communication between yourself & Deloitte regarding Three
Waters.

Of particular interest is communication regarding this report:

 

[6]https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/F...

 

2. All written communication between yourself & others regarding Three
Waters.

Yours faithfully,

 

Micky Turner

 

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From: Micky Turner

Thanks Fergus,

1.
The link is to the Delotte Three Waters report 'Industry Development Study & Economic Impact Assessment'. (links don't seem to work on this FYI site)

But we can get transparency on this by releasing 'all' email communication between Minister Mahuta and Deloitte regarding 'Three Waters'.
(if there is any)

from 2017 until today
_____

2.
We can refine it to all email communication regarding 'Three Waters' between Minister Mahuta and:

Jacinda Ardern
Willie Jackson
Andrew Little
Kieran Mcanulty

Phil Goff
Lianne Dalziel

All Iwi
All Tribal corporations (example: Tainui Group Holdings)

Also industry players -
Veolia
Ixom
Humes
Hynds
Xylem
Filtration Systems
Beca
Stantec
Lutra
Fulton Hogan
Downer
Stantec

from 2019 until today

_____

Cheers - Micky

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From: Fergus Broom

Kia ora Micky,

 

Thanks for confirming this scope, that's helpful.

 

On further reflection, some of the information you have requested is
believed to be held by, and more closely related to, the functions of the
Department of Internal Affairs. Your request is therefore being partially
transferred to the Department for a response, in accordance with section
14(b) of the Official Information Act 1982.

 

This part of your request will be responded to by the Department of
Internal Affairs:

"1. How Three Waters will be funded

 

2. Evidence of 'Operational Efficiencies' for each proposed Three Waters 
entity (detailed 30 year forecast for each entity)

 

3. Evidence of how the areas you have chosen to include in each entity 
create 'Operational Efficiencies'

 

(particularly how having Entity C split between the two islands would 
achieve lower costs)

 

4. Actual detailed cost forecasts for each individual city council over
30  years without Three Waters reforms."

 

This part of your request will be responded to by Minister Mahuta:

"1.

The link is to the Delotte Three Waters report 'Industry Development Study
& Economic Impact Assessment'. (links don't seem to work on this FYI site)

 

But we can get transparency on this by releasing 'all' email communication
between Minister Mahuta and Deloitte regarding 'Three Waters'.

(if there is any)

 

from 2017 until today

_____

 

2.

We can refine it to all email communication regarding 'Three Waters'
between Minister Mahuta and:

 

Jacinda Ardern

Willie Jackson

Andrew Little

Kieran Mcanulty

 

Phil Goff

Lianne Dalziel

 

All Iwi

All Tribal corporations (example: Tainui Group Holdings)

 

Also industry players -

Veolia

Ixom

Humes

Hynds

Xylem

Filtration Systems

Beca

Stantec

Lutra

Fulton Hogan

Downer

Stantec

 

from 2019 until today"

 

You will receive responses in accordance with the Act.

 

 

 

Ngā mihi

Fergus

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Micky Turner [mailto:[FOI #19995 email]]
Sent: Friday, 29 July 2022 11:01 AM
To: Fergus Broom <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Your OIA request

 

Thanks Fergus,

 

1.

The link is to the Delotte Three Waters report 'Industry Development Study
& Economic Impact Assessment'. (links don't seem to work on this FYI site)

 

But we can get transparency on this by releasing 'all' email communication
between Minister Mahuta and Deloitte regarding 'Three Waters'.

(if there is any)

 

from 2017 until today

_____

 

2.

We can refine it to all email communication regarding 'Three Waters'
between Minister Mahuta and:

 

Jacinda Ardern

Willie Jackson

Andrew Little

Kieran Mcanulty

 

Phil Goff

Lianne Dalziel

 

All Iwi

All Tribal corporations (example: Tainui Group Holdings)

 

Also industry players -

Veolia

Ixom

Humes

Hynds

Xylem

Filtration Systems

Beca

Stantec

Lutra

Fulton Hogan

Downer

Stantec

 

from 2019 until today

 

_____

 

Cheers - Micky

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Kia ora Micky,

 

 

 

Thank you for your OIA requests. For ease, your requests will be combined 
into one response. I’m just following up to clarify a couple of points.

 

 

 

Can you confirm that in relation to this point:

 

“1. All written communication between yourself & Deloitte regarding Three 
Waters.

 

Of particular interest is communication regarding this report:

 

 [1][1]https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/F...

 

That you are only after communication between Minister Mahuta and
Deloitte  in relation to that report? Additionally, can you provide the
link again?

It didn’t come through properly over email so it’s unclear what you’re 
referring to.

 

 

 

 

 

Secondly, your request for (since 2017):

 

“2. All written communication between yourself & others regarding Three 
Waters.”

 

Is likely to be too large. Collating all written communications the 
Minister has had on Three Waters in 2017-2022 would likely warrant a 
refusal under section 18(f) of the Act, as the information requested 
cannot be made available without substantial collation or research.

 

 

 

I am happy to assist in refining this request to meet due particularity
so  that you can receive a helpful response. Is there any aspect of the
Three  Waters reforms, or any stakeholder group, that you would consider
refining  these communications to? Bearing in mind that this is a long
time period  and the Minister receives a lot of correspondence on this
topic.

 

 

 

 

 

Ngâ mihi

 

Fergus

 

 

 

Fergus Broom | Private Secretary – Local Government | Office of Hon
Nanaia  Mahuta

 

 

 

 

 

From: Micky Turner

[mailto:[2][FOI #19995 email]] Sent: Friday,

22 July 2022 5:30 PM

 

To: N Mahuta (MIN) <[3][Nanaia Mahuta request email]>

 

Subject: Official Information request - 3 Waters - Funding - Evidence of 
Operational Efficiencies

 

Dear Nanaia Mahuta,

 

 

 

Can you please provide the following information/documentation:

 

 

 

1. How Three Waters will be funded

 

 

 

2. Evidence of 'Operational Efficiencies' for each proposed Three Waters 
entity (detailed 30 year forecast for each entity)

 

3. Evidence of how the areas you have chosen to include in each entity 
create 'Operational Efficiencies'

 

(particularly how having Entity C split between the two islands would 
achieve lower costs)

 

4. Actual detailed cost forecasts for each individual city council over
30  years without Three Waters reforms.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

 

Micky Turner

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tēnā koe Micky,

 

Thank you for your OIA request to the Department of Internal Affairs
(included with this email)

 

The Department will provide its response to your request as soon as
practicable and within twenty working days.  The 20^th working day is 30
August 2022

 

Please note that in cases where the Department’s response provides
information that is identified to be of general public interest, the
response may also be published on the Department of Internal Affairs
website.  If the Department publishes its response to your OIA request,
all personal information, including your name and contact details, will be
removed.

 

Nāku, nā

 

 

Michelle Reed [1](she/her)  

Kaitohutohu Ārahi, te Ture Pārongo Ōkawa | Lead Advisor Official
Correspondence 

Te Urūngi | Organisational Strategy & Performance

Level 6, 45 Pipitea St | PO Box 805, Wellington 6140, New Zealand |
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From: Fergus Broom
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2022 10:42 AM
To: 'Micky Turner' <[4][FOI #19995 email]>
Subject: RE: Your OIA request

 

Kia ora Micky,

 

Thanks for confirming this scope, that's helpful.

 

On further reflection, some of the information you have requested is
believed to be held by, and more closely related to, the functions of the
Department of Internal Affairs. Your request is therefore being partially
transferred to the Department for a response, in accordance with section
14(b) of the Official Information Act 1982.

 

This part of your request will be responded to by the Department of
Internal Affairs:

"1. How Three Waters will be funded

 

2. Evidence of 'Operational Efficiencies' for each proposed Three Waters 
entity (detailed 30 year forecast for each entity)

 

3. Evidence of how the areas you have chosen to include in each entity 
create 'Operational Efficiencies'

 

(particularly how having Entity C split between the two islands would 
achieve lower costs)

 

4. Actual detailed cost forecasts for each individual city council over
30  years without Three Waters reforms."

 

This part of your request will be responded to by Minister Mahuta:

"1.

The link is to the Delotte Three Waters report 'Industry Development Study
& Economic Impact Assessment'. (links don't seem to work on this FYI site)

 

But we can get transparency on this by releasing 'all' email communication
between Minister Mahuta and Deloitte regarding 'Three Waters'.

(if there is any)

 

from 2017 until today

_____

 

2.

We can refine it to all email communication regarding 'Three Waters'
between Minister Mahuta and:

 

Jacinda Ardern

Willie Jackson

Andrew Little

Kieran Mcanulty

 

Phil Goff

Lianne Dalziel

 

All Iwi

All Tribal corporations (example: Tainui Group Holdings)

 

Also industry players -

Veolia

Ixom

Humes

Hynds

Xylem

Filtration Systems

Beca

Stantec

Lutra

Fulton Hogan

Downer

Stantec

 

from 2019 until today"

 

You will receive responses in accordance with the Act.

 

 

 

Ngā mihi

Fergus

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Micky Turner
[[5]mailto:[FOI #19995 email]]
Sent: Friday, 29 July 2022 11:01 AM
To: Fergus Broom <[6][email address]>
Subject: Re: Your OIA request

 

Thanks Fergus,

 

1.

The link is to the Delotte Three Waters report 'Industry Development Study
& Economic Impact Assessment'. (links don't seem to work on this FYI site)

 

But we can get transparency on this by releasing 'all' email communication
between Minister Mahuta and Deloitte regarding 'Three Waters'.

(if there is any)

 

from 2017 until today

_____

 

2.

We can refine it to all email communication regarding 'Three Waters'
between Minister Mahuta and:

 

Jacinda Ardern

Willie Jackson

Andrew Little

Kieran Mcanulty

 

Phil Goff

Lianne Dalziel

 

All Iwi

All Tribal corporations (example: Tainui Group Holdings)

 

Also industry players -

Veolia

Ixom

Humes

Hynds

Xylem

Filtration Systems

Beca

Stantec

Lutra

Fulton Hogan

Downer

Stantec

 

from 2019 until today

 

_____

 

Cheers - Micky

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Kia ora Micky,

 

 

 

Thank you for your OIA requests. For ease, your requests will be combined 
into one response. I’m just following up to clarify a couple of points.

 

 

 

Can you confirm that in relation to this point:

 

“1. All written communication between yourself & Deloitte regarding Three 
Waters.

 

Of particular interest is communication regarding this report:

 

 [1][7]https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/F...

 

That you are only after communication between Minister Mahuta and
Deloitte  in relation to that report? Additionally, can you provide the
link again?

It didn’t come through properly over email so it’s unclear what you’re 
referring to.

 

 

 

 

 

Secondly, your request for (since 2017):

 

“2. All written communication between yourself & others regarding Three 
Waters.”

 

Is likely to be too large. Collating all written communications the 
Minister has had on Three Waters in 2017-2022 would likely warrant a 
refusal under section 18(f) of the Act, as the information requested 
cannot be made available without substantial collation or research.

 

 

 

I am happy to assist in refining this request to meet due particularity
so  that you can receive a helpful response. Is there any aspect of the
Three  Waters reforms, or any stakeholder group, that you would consider
refining  these communications to? Bearing in mind that this is a long
time period  and the Minister receives a lot of correspondence on this
topic.

 

 

 

 

 

Ngâ mihi

 

Fergus

 

 

 

Fergus Broom | Private Secretary – Local Government | Office of Hon
Nanaia  Mahuta

 

 

 

 

 

From: Micky Turner

[mailto:[2][FOI #19995 email]] Sent: Friday,

22 July 2022 5:30 PM

 

To: N Mahuta (MIN) <[3][Nanaia Mahuta request email]>

 

Subject: Official Information request - 3 Waters - Funding - Evidence of 
Operational Efficiencies

 

Dear Nanaia Mahuta,

 

 

 

Can you please provide the following information/documentation:

 

 

 

1. How Three Waters will be funded

 

 

 

2. Evidence of 'Operational Efficiencies' for each proposed Three Waters 
entity (detailed 30 year forecast for each entity)

 

3. Evidence of how the areas you have chosen to include in each entity 
create 'Operational Efficiencies'

 

(particularly how having Entity C split between the two islands would 
achieve lower costs)

 

4. Actual detailed cost forecasts for each individual city council over
30  years without Three Waters reforms.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

 

Micky Turner

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Micky Turner

Ok, thanks Fergus

Look forward to seeing the information.

Cheers - Micky

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Kia ora Micky

 

Please find attached an initial response to your OIA request.

 

 

Ngâ mihi

Fergus

 

Fergus Broom | Private Secretary – Local Government | Office of Hon Nanaia
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Tēnā koe Micky

 

Please find attached a letter from the Department of Internal Affairs
relating to your request of 22 July 2022 for information under the
Official Information Act 1982.

 

Kind regards

 

Three Waters Reform Programme

Ue Te Hinātore | Local Government Branch
Department of Internal Affairs | Te Tari Taiwhenua 

45 Pipitea Street | PO Box 805, Wellington 6140, New Zealand |
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Tçnâ koe Micky,

 

Please find attached Hon Nanaia Mahuta’s response to your request for
information under the Official Information Act 1982.

 

Ngâ mihi

Nathan

 

Nathan Croft | Private Secretary – Local Government  | Office of Hon
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From: Micky Turner

Thanks Nathan and Nanaia,

I appreciate your commitment to transparency.

These documents give the New Zealand public some insight into what different interest groups expect or desire.

I haven't read through everything - but there doesn't appear to be anything too surprising at first glance.

I will send this OIA response to people who get paid (very well) to look into these things more closely (media and politicians).

Thanks for taking the time to compile the information!

Kindest regards - Micky Turner

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Tēnā koe Micky

 

Please find attached a letter from the Department of Internal Affairs
relating to your request of 22 July 2022.

 

Nāku noa, nā

 

Three Waters Reform Programme

Ue Te Hinātore | Local Government Branch
Department of Internal Affairs | Te Tari Taiwhenua 

45 Pipitea Street | PO Box 805, Wellington 6140, New Zealand |
 [1]www.dia.govt.nz 

 

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Tēnā koe Micky

 

Please find attached information in response  to your Official Information
Act request of 22 July 2022.

 

Nāku noa, nā

 

Three Waters Reform Programme

Ue Te Hinātore | Local Government Branch
Department of Internal Affairs | Te Tari Taiwhenua 

45 Pipitea Street | PO Box 805, Wellington 6140, New Zealand |
 [1]www.dia.govt.nz 

 

From: Three Waters
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2022 5:20 pm
To: [FOI #19995 email]
Subject: Micky Turner - decision on request reference, OIA 223-0090

 

Tēnā koe Micky

 

Please find attached a letter from the Department of Internal Affairs
relating to your request of 22 July 2022.

 

Nāku noa, nā

 

Three Waters Reform Programme

Ue Te Hinātore | Local Government Branch
Department of Internal Affairs | Te Tari Taiwhenua 

45 Pipitea Street | PO Box 805, Wellington 6140, New Zealand |
 [2]www.dia.govt.nz 

 

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