Arrest made of Aaron Stuckey and shooting
Lynette A Stevens made this Official Information request to Poto Williams
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From: Lynette A Stevens
Dear Poto WIlliams,
Under the Official Information Act, I wish to request the following..
1.) Date of the arrest, incarceration of Mr Aaron Stuckey for production of methamphetamine on his parents' property River Road, Tuakau, NZ, I request to obtain the complete Police file, and if no Police file, why not?
2.) Date of shooting of Aaron Stuckey and the Police file into this event and why he was not taken directly to hospital but rather his mother phoned his cousin, Donna Thomas, St John Paramedic? If there are no details regarding this serious event, why not?
3.) Police file into the arrest/charges regarding Donna Thomas, c/- McKenzie road, Pokeno 2471 on methamphetamine charges and was this the reason she is no longer a St John Paramedic?
4.) How did Aaron Stuckey's parents, Margaret and Buster Stuckey gain custody of their grandchild Arnyha Stuckey (daughter of Aaron Stuckey and Gina Gibson) considering Aaron had methamphetamine charges/incarceration?
5.) How were the Stuckeys able to use, now Crown Lawyer, Natalie Walker (Mrs Fletcher) to gain custody of their grandchild when their names have been linked to involvement in the Crewe case in which Natalie Walker represented the Crewe daughter during the Crewe review period between 2010 to 2014. Natalie Walker is also representing the Stuckeys in the latest case against Arthur Thomas and it can only be seen as a 'conflict of interest'. Ms Natalie Walker also involved herself in the case of my brother's workplace death case (11/11/11) which is now being looked at with a view to another Coronial Inquest because it was completely covered up because the killer (Karl Lobb aka secret Crown witness Mr X in the Thomas Royal Commission 1980) links to the Crewe case.
Yours faithfully,
Lynette Stevens on behalf of the NZ public desperately seeking transparency in these matters
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Tēnā koe Lynette
Reference: OIA 2022-411
On behalf of Minister Poto Williams, Minister of Police, thank you for your email received 17 March 2022 in which you submitted an Official Information Act request as follows:
1.) Date of the arrest, incarceration of Mr Aaron Stuckey for production of methamphetamine on his parents' property River Road, Tuakau, NZ, I request to obtain the complete Police file, and if no Police file, why not?
2.) Date of shooting of Aaron Stuckey and the Police file into this event and why he was not taken directly to hospital but rather his mother phoned his cousin, Donna Thomas, St John Paramedic? If there are no details regarding this serious event, why not?
3.) Police file into the arrest/charges regarding Donna Thomas, c/- McKenzie road, Pokeno 2471 on methamphetamine charges and was this the reason she is no longer a St John Paramedic?
4.) How did Aaron Stuckey's parents, Margaret and Buster Stuckey gain custody of their grandchild Arnyha Stuckey (daughter of Aaron Stuckey and Gina Gibson) considering Aaron had methamphetamine charges/incarceration?
5.) How were the Stuckeys able to use, now Crown Lawyer, Natalie Walker (Mrs Fletcher) to gain custody of their grandchild when their names have been linked to involvement in the Crewe case in which Natalie Walker represented the Crewe daughter during the Crewe review period between 2010 to 2014. Natalie Walker is also representing the Stuckeys in the latest case against Arthur Thomas and it can only be seen as a 'conflict of interest'. Ms Natalie Walker also involved herself in the case of my brother's workplace death case (11/11/11) which is now being looked at with a view to another Coronial Inquest because it was completely covered up because the killer (Karl Lobb aka secret Crown witness Mr X in the Thomas Royal Commission 1980) links to the Crewe case.
Minister Williams is considering your request in accordance with the Act, and will respond in due course.
Ngā mihi,
Moana
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From: Lynette A Stevens [mailto:[FOI #18906 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 8:22 AM
To: P Williams (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Arrest made of Aaron Stuckey and shooting
Dear Poto WIlliams,
Under the Official Information Act, I wish to request the following..
1.) Date of the arrest, incarceration of Mr Aaron Stuckey for production of methamphetamine on his parents' property River Road, Tuakau, NZ, I request to obtain the complete Police file, and if no Police file, why not?
2.) Date of shooting of Aaron Stuckey and the Police file into this event and why he was not taken directly to hospital but rather his mother phoned his cousin, Donna Thomas, St John Paramedic? If there are no details regarding this serious event, why not?
3.) Police file into the arrest/charges regarding Donna Thomas, c/- McKenzie road, Pokeno 2471 on methamphetamine charges and was this the reason she is no longer a St John Paramedic?
4.) How did Aaron Stuckey's parents, Margaret and Buster Stuckey gain custody of their grandchild Arnyha Stuckey (daughter of Aaron Stuckey and Gina Gibson) considering Aaron had methamphetamine charges/incarceration?
5.) How were the Stuckeys able to use, now Crown Lawyer, Natalie Walker (Mrs Fletcher) to gain custody of their grandchild when their names have been linked to involvement in the Crewe case in which Natalie Walker represented the Crewe daughter during the Crewe review period between 2010 to 2014. Natalie Walker is also representing the Stuckeys in the latest case against Arthur Thomas and it can only be seen as a 'conflict of interest'. Ms Natalie Walker also involved herself in the case of my brother's workplace death case (11/11/11) which is now being looked at with a view to another Coronial Inquest because it was completely covered up because the killer (Karl Lobb aka secret Crown witness Mr X in the Thomas Royal Commission 1980) links to the Crewe case.
Yours faithfully,
Lynette Stevens on behalf of the NZ public desperately seeking transparency in these matters
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Subject: RE: Official Information request - Arrest made of Aaron Stuckey and shooting
Tēnā koe Lynette
Reference: OIA 2022-411
On behalf of Minister Poto Williams, Minister of Police, thank you for your email received 17 March 2022 in which you submitted an Official Information Act request as follows:
1.) Date of the arrest, incarceration of Mr Aaron Stuckey for production of methamphetamine on his parents' property River Road, Tuakau, NZ, I request to obtain the complete Police file, and if no Police file, why not?
2.) Date of shooting of Aaron Stuckey and the Police file into this event and why he was not taken directly to hospital but rather his mother phoned his cousin, Donna Thomas, St John Paramedic? If there are no details regarding this serious event, why not?
3.) Police file into the arrest/charges regarding Donna Thomas, c/- McKenzie road, Pokeno 2471 on methamphetamine charges and was this the reason she is no longer a St John Paramedic?
4.) How did Aaron Stuckey's parents, Margaret and Buster Stuckey gain custody of their grandchild Arnyha Stuckey (daughter of Aaron Stuckey and Gina Gibson) considering Aaron had methamphetamine charges/incarceration?
5.) How were the Stuckeys able to use, now Crown Lawyer, Natalie Walker (Mrs Fletcher) to gain custody of their grandchild when their names have been linked to involvement in the Crewe case in which Natalie Walker represented the Crewe daughter during the Crewe review period between 2010 to 2014. Natalie Walker is also representing the Stuckeys in the latest case against Arthur Thomas and it can only be seen as a 'conflict of interest'. Ms Natalie Walker also involved herself in the case of my brother's workplace death case (11/11/11) which is now being looked at with a view to another Coronial Inquest because it was completely covered up because the killer (Karl Lobb aka secret Crown witness Mr X in the Thomas Royal Commission 1980) links to the Crewe case.
Minister Williams is considering your request in accordance with the Act, and will respond in due course.
Ngā mihi,
Moana
Moana Fuli
Private Secretary, Executive Support | Office of Hon Poto Williams
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From: Lynette A Stevens [mailto:[FYI request #18906 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 8:22 AM
To: P Williams (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Arrest made of Aaron Stuckey and shooting
Dear Poto WIlliams,
Under the Official Information Act, I wish to request the following..
1.) Date of the arrest, incarceration of Mr Aaron Stuckey for production of methamphetamine on his parents' property River Road, Tuakau, NZ, I request to obtain the complete Police file, and if no Police file, why not?
2.) Date of shooting of Aaron Stuckey and the Police file into this event and why he was not taken directly to hospital but rather his mother phoned his cousin, Donna Thomas, St John Paramedic? If there are no details regarding this serious event, why not?
3.) Police file into the arrest/charges regarding Donna Thomas, c/- McKenzie road, Pokeno 2471 on methamphetamine charges and was this the reason she is no longer a St John Paramedic?
4.) How did Aaron Stuckey's parents, Margaret and Buster Stuckey gain custody of their grandchild Arnyha Stuckey (daughter of Aaron Stuckey and Gina Gibson) considering Aaron had methamphetamine charges/incarceration?
5.) How were the Stuckeys able to use, now Crown Lawyer, Natalie Walker (Mrs Fletcher) to gain custody of their grandchild when their names have been linked to involvement in the Crewe case in which Natalie Walker represented the Crewe daughter during the Crewe review period between 2010 to 2014. Natalie Walker is also representing the Stuckeys in the latest case against Arthur Thomas and it can only be seen as a 'conflict of interest'. Ms Natalie Walker also involved herself in the case of my brother's workplace death case (11/11/11) which is now being looked at with a view to another Coronial Inquest because it was completely covered up because the killer (Karl Lobb aka secret Crown witness Mr X in the Thomas Royal Commission 1980) links to the Crewe case.
Yours faithfully,
Lynette Stevens on behalf of the NZ public desperately seeking transparency in these matters
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Lynette A Stevens left an annotation ()
I retract this OIA request... there have been false allegations made about Donna Thomas.
We have been given FALSE information which is why this OIA request was sent.
I publicly issue a sincere APOLOGY to Ms Thomas for any distress this has caused her.
Lynette Stevens
Jane and Bill left an annotation ()
This report by Lynette Stevens is full of malicious gossip. She has never met the people she is writing about and does not know them personally. It appears she has some type of personal vendetta against them, and none of them know why.
(1) She talks about Aaron Stuckey's incarceration which happened over a decade ago, Aaron has moved on, it's a shame Lynette can-not move on too, especially as it does not concern her.
(2) When Aaron was shot, Aanya (his daughter) and Margaret were down the farm with their horses. They both did not know about the shooting until 4am the next morning when the Police visited their home to inform them of the news and that Aaron was at that time already in Hospital undergoing surgery. So how is it that Lynette could say that Margaret rang Donna the evening before when she only received the news some 12 hours later. Again, what business is this of Lynette.
((3) Donna has never been arrested for Methamphetamine and is still working for St John Ambulance as a first responder and is training to be a Paramedic.
(4) Margaret and Buster did not gain custody, or apply for a parenting order (which is the correct term) of Ahnya, now Aanya Stuckey. Aanya's father Aaron applied for the parenting order, through out this procedure, he volunteered drug tests, which were clear, whereas, Gina, Aanya's mother would not volunteer. Gina had other charges against her at the time. The Courts saw fit to give the Parenting Order to Aaron. Again, nothing to do with Lynette.
(5) The Stuckey's never used Natalie Walker (Ms Fletcher) to gain Custody (Parenting Order) for Aanya, Custody was never an intention as already mentioned. Natalie Walker was not employed by the Police in the recent case against Arthur Thomas, This case was held behind closed doors, and the victims had, and still have name suppression. This was a confidential case to protect the victims and their families from such gossip,, so how come Lynette Stevens knows about it, she has been heard gossiping through ZB talkback, plus a recorded cellphone conversation identifying some of the victims. She should be given a Police warning, at the least, as the case was none of her business. Plus the Courts wouldn't take kindly to her spreading about names of people involved. The whole entry of Lynettes is full of lies and terrible misinformed gossip. We think it is distasteful.
D M Thomas left an annotation ()
I agree with Jane and Bill, as they have stated facts. All of which are no concern of Lynette Stevens.
Lynette Stevens has talked about drugs, but has failed to mention that when her brother died, he had drugs in his system.
It's still unclear to us as to why, Lynette Stevens is so fascinated with the people mentioned? And where does she get all her incorrect gossip?
Maybe she should volunteer some of her time to a worthwhile charity, instead of posting lies online.
Lynette A Stevens left an annotation ()
D M Thomas... we know this isn't Des Thomas.. he was shocked. I will be sure to pass your comments about my dead brother on to his daughter.. now 21. She is also a friend of Aarnya Stuckey's.. and FYI, you have your facts wrong about my brother which has been very revealing.. this information of yours must have come from those who told LIES about his death. We have the facts to prove that. Perhaps you need to delve into my brother's killer's history. Ex Police say Murray was murdered by Karl LOBB...sad you didn't do some research about my brother's case before trying to attack me for asking questions through the legal avenues.. very sad of you to speak about a dead person. It reflects a desperate person
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Lynette Stevens annotation (August 10,2023)
Lynette, in your response to DM Thomas, you stated that Des Thomas was shocked, naturally, he would have been, to learn that you had the audacity to make such a request to the OIA in the first place, especially when none of this was any business of yours, Des Thomas may well have been shocked, especially as you mentioned confidential stuff that you both may have conspired to.
DM Thomas has not got her facts wrong regarding your brother, the Coroner's report stated he had drugs in his system at the time of his passing. Ms Thomas was stating facts, as you were the one that brought drugs into it in your request to the 0IA in the first place. Now that the cupboard doors have been opened, and your own family skeletons are flying out to haunt you, you become agitated. What's good for the goose Lynette, is good for the gander also.
Coroner's reports don't lie, but gossipers do.
Lynette A Stevens left an annotation ()
You're really scraping the barrel coming up with old news.. interesting you were privy to the Coroner's report which was at odds with the Pukekohe District Court Judge...Worksafe NZ admitted their failings and offered our family 15k towards a new inquest.. but Natalie Walker made sure she intervened to ensure Karl Lobb walked free. Then there was James Balle.. stood there in court and protected a killer! My brother was a hard-working man who has a daughter who recently turned 21.. a friend of Arnya Stuckey's..My brother's partner knows of the corruption and you are making a real fool of yourselves. Perhaps you would like a few more facts so you can get them straight.. when we have letters from the ADHB admitting the failures of the Pathologist, and St John admitting the Paramedic should never have introduced his theory on how Murray was killed, then you might understand how this case was corrupted. Obviously you are protecting a secret Crown witness against Arthur in the Royal Commission and the man who killed (ex Police say murdered) my brother.. lies were told about him and even police said there was no mention of Murray being an asthmatic.. no one is disputing the drugs in his system but that was NOT what killed him. Karl Lobb did.. your mate you want to defend? You are welcome to come around to our place.. Ms Donna Thomas knows where we live. Come and see the evidence. The Toxicologist admitted she didn't know Murray was an asthmatic because minute traces of meth can show up because of asthma prevention medication. Your attempt to try to attack a 'dead man' shows your integrity.. we know who you are and what you are doing... won't work. OIA requests are made when people want answers.. the public know my petition was stonewalled because liars took to the stand.... it is disgraceful and certainly not gossip.. you are obviously living in fear of being found out... at least Donna Thomas used her surname. If she is unhappy with my retraction on here, get her to tell us herself because someone is sure feeding you 'horse manure'.
We Know left an annotation ()
Bill and Jane
AKA
Buster and Margaret Stuckey - (The home where Aaron Stuckey was shot infront of Margaret Stuckey and his daughter Aanya)
Jane and Bill left an annotation ()
So we see you have taken the law into your own hands again. You can-not take a truth, which we have given you, and twist, and manipulate it into a liar, just to satisfy your own vivid imagination, as the truth will always stand.
The Police Detectives throughly investigated this case. Going by their own findings and evidence, your statement above is nothing like what actually happened. There is always some evidence at the scene of a crime that can be identified and analysed, and according to the Police, nothing points towards Aaron's family. There were no witnesses, but the Police and the Stuckey family are satisfied that the case was dealt with professionally and correctly. We just wonder where all your gossip comes from.
Lynette A Stevens left an annotation ()
Jane and Bill (FYI)...THIS HAS GONE VIRAL .
"Who has heard of Karl Lobb yet?
Time to Google search.. he killed our brother Murray Christensen 11.11.11.. and had police/judiciary protection then and because he was a secret Crown witness against Arthur Thomas in the Royal Commission into the FRAMING of Arthur Thomas for the Crewe murders, he escapedall accountability!!!...
Karl Lobb has told my husband and I, and Des Thomas, "HE KNOWS WHO KILLED THE CREWES BUT BETTER TO LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE BUT IT WASN'T ARTHUR " but hang on a minute, he said he saw Arthur's car and trailer outside the Crewes the day after the brutal murders!!?
He knew Len Demler well...so why does this man appear to be a protected species?
Because he was secret Crown witness Mr X who was COAXED to lie under oath by Robert Fisher...Judith Collins go to lawyer to ridicule Canadian Justice Ian Binnie out of NZ because he got too close to discovering Bain WAS innocent...like so many innocent people who have been DELIBERATELY FRAMED!!
Colonizers have got away with STEALING land off the Maori in this district also.. there's a lot you all need to research because greed is why the Crewes were murdered!!! And why the Crown are so invested in covering up!!
OUR EVIDENCE IS STRONG THANKS TO ARTHUR THOMAS'S BROTHER DES...
AND ITS COPIED FAR AND WIDE...
Best come forward because the net is closing on LIARS..jail time for those complicit in covering serious crimes!!
There's a lot missing from the latest book about the Crewe murders but there's also some positive facts in there!! It's opened a can of worms.. watch this space!"⁹
Lynette A Stevens left an annotation ()
What do you mean "taken the law into my hands again"? You need to explain about how you know what's in my brother's Coroner's report...you've put yourself right in it...many ex police are onto it all..
The People you think are loyal to you, aren't... look close to home 'Jane and Bill'...
Own up...
Rachel Green left an annotation ()
Im sick of your malicious rants all over facebook and just last week I see other members of our community have also asked you to stop putting this all over Facebook as nobody is interested.
Fair enough to talk about your own brother but you do not need to drag other peoples names into your nonsense!
This is personal to me as Aaron is my partner and an absolute incredible one at that, and also a doting stepdad to my children who do not need to know about his past because that’s exactly what it is - his past!!!
If you got your head out of your own backside for five minutes you’d actually find out for yourself what a special man he really is! He served his time and well and truly moved on with his life in a much more positive manner!! The courts, most definitely made the right decision and giving him custody of his beautiful daughter also!!!
Lynette A Stevens left an annotation ()
Rachel... I thank you for being honest about your identity rather than using a fake name.
I'm so happy Aaron has a future to look forward to. Sadly my brother Murray Christensen doesn't. His beautiful daughter is friends with Aaron's daughter.
You seem to be implying I am not speaking the truth Rachel? If you sat down and did some research, perhaps you would see what is going on and obviously behind your back. Ask Jane and Bill to tell the facts instead of their version of the truth. We now have your name to pass on to those investigating and think you should know someone has confessed to Des Thomas, my husband and I and recently to ex Police. My brother's KILLER was a secret Crown witness against Aaron's uncle Arthur and we have the proof of his lies under oath.. and you don't speak for all of the people in the community Rachel.. we know this for a fact! There are many people in this community WE live in too, who support us and are waking up to all the lies! One of the ex police we are dealing with has asked for a summary of Karl Lobb and what he has done... he has that now. Ask Jane and Bill to ask Natalie about her involvement in protecting Lobb. Do your research before attacking me and trying to silence me with veiled threats Rachel.. if anything happens to myself or any of my family, remember this... our evidence is copied as far as the UK.. there is a relation of the Thomas's fully supporting us so stop speaking for others! this is a site to ask for OFFICIAL INFORMATION from Govt agencies and if you don't like something, scroll on by. You have no idea whatsoever about what happened to my brother who has NOT got a future!
If it bothers you so much to read what I say, we have to ask why...
We are getting close to exposing the lies surrounding my brother's MURDER and the murders of the Crewes, if it is concerning to you.. why?
Aanya Stuckey left an annotation ()
Hi Lynette
Aanya (Stuckey) here.
Firstly, thank you for your endless research and theories into myself and my family members lives. I can totally empathise that there seem to be so many uncertainties, and see how there are some loose ends.
However, I have I am really, really tired of you thinking you have the right to make my private family life public. I am over it.
None of this information is for public knowledge. You are obsessed with the Crewes and my family, and neither has absolutely anything to do with you. The public doesn’t want to hear about the Crewe murders well after it has concluded. The public doesn’t need to know about my custody battle as a child. The public doesn’t need to know my dad was shot when I was younger. The public doesn’t need to know about my father’s imprisonment. You have no right to express mine or my family affairs online.
My grandparents raised me into an incredible human. My dad created a beautiful upbringing for myself. I am not friends with your niece either - I don’t even know who she is.
You mention several times that your son doesn’t have a future - what about my future? I am a 22 year old girl. How should it be fair that this article pops up as one of the first search results under my name on Google? How am I supposed to have opportunities, or a professional career, or make new friends when you have chosen to share intricate details of my family life online?
This is disrespectful to my family name.
Please, leave myself and my family alone.
This is my right, and also my family’s right, to have a private life. We deserve the right to move on.
You are robbing me of my future.
Lynette A Stevens left an annotation ()
Aanya,
I have respect for your account to be transparent.. that is all any of us fighting for justice are after. Transparency.
Yes our family have lost family members... first our brother Murray Christensen 11.11.11 then our Dad six months later, then my adult son 2019.
We have been left with too many questions with the answers being held, mainly within Crown Law. The very entity we would never have imagined would cover up heinous crimes such as the Crewes murders, and my brother's. Ask your grandparents about Karl Lobb... a killer who knows who murdered the Crewes but thinks its better to let sleeping dogs lie! He told my husband and I this there's been a podcast series. Again, Ask your grandparents. Ask Natalie Walker Crown Law about her involvement into Murray's death. Ask her about misleading the Crewes daughter Rochelle during the whitewashed unconstitutional taxpayer funded Crewe review. There is evidence the Police have withheld Aanya... ask your grandparents about what is labeled the Macken rifle... it can be sought at the Ombudsman's office. It's all there.
People have lied Aanya. We have the proof and it might be acceptable for online bullies to lie and say no one cares about the Crewes deaths but many do care! People on this site have admitted they have seen Murray's Coroner's report. This is strange because it was never to be made public.
Ask your grandparents about the petition they refused to support. More lies were made up about your great uncle Arthur.. he's been framed Aanya.. too many have been in this country and you foing Law could bring about changes to stop this heinous crimes of framing the innocent.
You may not remember Charli Christensen, my brother's daughter. She is into horse eventing like you.. You're off her friend list now.
I respect you for being direct Aanya, thank you. You are welcome to have a meeting with us all who are desperate to expose the lies about Arthur Thomas, Murray Christensen and we have concrete evidence.
I refuse to be bullied into submission when we have proof. Des Thomas has provided us with the evidence which proves Arthur was lied about. Is that acceptable?
Facts matter Aanya. Not fabrication of evidence.
Respectfully, Lynette Stevens on behalf of the public expecting transparency once and for all.
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Hi Aanya - I’m Lynette Stevens sister. I’m sorry you have been caught up in this as OUR family have but there’s a difference between us.We had a family member killed and his death was covered up by corrupt Police and lawyers (evidentiary now) because of Karl Lobb- corrupt Police Crown Witness in the Thomas RCOI who gave perjured testimony to put an innocent man away for nearly 10 years. It’s patronising, condescending and shocking to hear you say no-one cares about the Crewes anymore. That’s your grandparents and you using your privilege right there. Why are your grandparents so invested in not wanting this to go further? Why do they threaten us? What are they scared of? That they won’t tell you why, doesn’t change THE EVIDENCE & FACTS which you should be thinking about IF you are doing law. So how dare you tell us our brothers death has nothing to do with the Crewes. We’ll chalk that up to your naivety and youth but you haven’t earned the right to negate the EVIDENCE we have accrued to prove you are wrong not to mention the evidence we have from Des Thomas. Murray was killed 11/11/11 right when the Police were doing their Police Review of the Crewe murders so when they must have realised it was their corrupt Crown Witness in the Thomas RCOI (Police AND Lobb) they must have realised they couldn’t put their witness up on the stand with Police VERSUS Lobb in Murray’s case so they manufactured some non disclosure issue which meant on the second day we went to court expecting to hear Lobb give evidence, instead we were told there was no chance of a successful prosecution. Police provided a perjured exhibit to the Bench to get Lobb off (Lobb was or is your grandfathers friend?)..This is EVIDENTIARY Aanya. We established that via the Ombudmans office so please don’t patronise and make it about yourself when there’s a bigger picture here. Your life isn’t ruined. That’s people using you for their own prejudicial reasons to suggest it is - a certain lawyer who has breached her role as a Crown Solicitor with her evidentiary conflict of interests which we have made a formal complaint about. So it’s you using your privilege to suggest it’s not OUR family whose lives were ruined. Our brother was KILLED and he didn’t get justice in death because the friend of your grandfathers was a corrupt crown witness for corrupt police so they had to protect him even though the policing act provides no such immunity as the Policing Act Section 6 states they must BIND THE CROWN as Miss Walker must when she took an Oath to the Crown. The legal principles set out by the full court of the High Court of New Zealand are clear with effect of FREE PARDON for Arthur but the Police are still implicating him in their Police Review of the Crewe murders which makes that Review illegal and unconstitutional . The legal principles set out make it clear Arthur should never have been accused of that crime again. Yet Ms Walker condoned that when she acted for Rochelle Crewe in that Police Review,;she didn’t advise new information about the Macken gun, nor did Police which breaches their own Terms of Ref, she ingratiated herself into our brothers case by saying she would help us look over the questions for worksafe before our meeting with the CEO but then we didn’t hear back from her but she instead went to Counties Manukau Police, and then we hear she was involved in your family’s custody issue, and she was involved in the latest prosecution against Arthur (and we KNOW all about THAT) so please don’t suggest we’re the ones who have acted illegally here. Ms Walker also had access to Appendices 1 which has been shockingly kept away from the public. The information therein gives clear information about the motive for the killing of the Crewes and shows Len Demler and Heather Demler DID have motive - they should never have been excluded. It was them who pointed the finger at Arthur!! Information Ms Walker did NOT pass on to her client Rochelle Crewe. Nor the new information about the Macken gun which was in the hands of Len Demler at the time of the murders but was NOT handed in as was mandated for all guns in the area inside a 5 mile radius. Arthur was outside that radius but handed his gun in anyway. It was handed to the Chittys and they told their worker to take it away. Again, Ms Walker has therefore breached her Crown Solicitors obligations (re conflict of interest) The Police Review is also based on Paul Neazor’s report - a Solicitor General who wasn’t even able to constitutionally undertake that role in 1982 to negate the findings of the Royal Commission to NOT prosecute Hutton and co. It wasn’t until 1986, when the NZ Constitution Act 1852 was repealed, that he could undertake such a role which is why that report didn’t appear until after 1986. These FACTS matter Aanya. Maybe not to you, because you are happy to live in an insular bubble where you choose to only hear what your grandparents tell you and that’s all that matters to you. I couldn’t live like that. I need to see FACTS. Keith Holyoake breached letters Patent in the Thomas RCOI to pass those findings of the Royal Commissioner on to Paul Neazor when the only one who could and should have actioned those findings was the Chief Law officer of the Crown, the Attorney General. A Governor General who breached Letters Patent for his cousin/nephew Ian Holoyoake who was in a senior role in POLICE so of course wanted to protect his corrupt mates Hutton and co from being prosecuted. ANY kiwi who thinks an unsolved double brutal murder should just be left alone as you suggest and doesn’t want justice to prevail in our democratic country, (what did our ANZACS fight and die for?) really needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. Justice is no more or no less than what every New Zealander has a right to in this country Aanya. Anyone who suggests otherwise should not be practising law. Im not being facetious here Aanya. (Because I love the law very much also and wish I had had the opportunity you have now) but you have to stop repeating what your grandparents want - that this will just all go away. You obviously feel a tremendous debt to them BUT as a grandparent myself, if they are using that against you to suggest you can’t first seek THE TRuTh AND NOtHING BUT THE TRuTH, thats not ok by them! Not ok at all. And I’m sorry if I’m wrong but every comment by THEM to denigrate US, proves they are worried so I don’t trust THEIR MOTIVE. We have EVIDENCE and THE TRUTH on OUR side. You can acept THEIR truth or THE truth going forward - that’s entirely your choice but I would have thought you don’t really have too much choice going forward when u have chosen the career you have. Be one of these kiwis the Royal Commissioner spoke about. The findings of a Royal Commissioner
492 - Such action is no more and no less than a shameful and cynical attack on the trust that ALL NEW ZEALANDER’S have and are entitled to have in their Police force and system of administration of justice. Mr Thomas suffered that outrage; he was the victim of that attack. His courage and that of a few very dedicated men and women who believed in the cause of justice has exposed the wrongs which were done’
‘In my opinion, if ever a facie case was established in the annals of the NZ justice system, it’s is the findings of the Royal Commission. It beggars belief that prosecutions were never initiated.
We are proudly women (and sisters of Murray killed at his workplace by Corrupt crown witness Mr X) who believe in the course of justice by exposing the wrongs which were done. Why aren’t YOU if you are doing law? I’ll pray you get the strength to realise you are one of the lucky ones. I’m glad you had a good life not exposed to the harsh realities but that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist. Take care, (and I DO care about how you are) but please don’t interfere and threaten us to act like you’re some victim when that is simply not true. You’re not a victim. There’s too many REAL victims because of corruption in this country. We don’t need kiwis playing at it. If at anytime you want evidence of any of what I have said, I’m more than happy to email you. You deserve THE truth. Not THEIR truth with eschewed perceptions and opinions. So many victims have had enough of that.
And I AM sorry if we got it wrong that you know our dear niece whose father was killed by a corrupt Crown Witness. We were shocked when we thought we saw your name on her friends list on Facebook. She’s a gorgeous girl your age. Sorry. We CAN say sorry when WE’RE wrong. Let’s see if your grandparents can?)
Sandra
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Hi Aanya - I’m Lynette Stevens sister. I’m sorry you have been caught up in this as OUR family have but there’s a difference between us.We had a family member killed and his death was covered up by corrupt Police and lawyers (evidentiary now) because of Karl Lobb- corrupt Police Crown Witness in the Thomas RCOI who gave perjured testimony to put an innocent man away for nearly 10 years. It’s patronising, condescending and shocking to hear you say no-one cares about the Crewes anymore. That’s your grandparents and you using your privilege right there. Why are your grandparents so invested in not wanting this to go further? Why do they threaten us? What are they scared of? That they won’t tell you why, doesn’t change THE EVIDENCE & FACTS which you should be thinking about IF you are doing law. So how dare you tell us our brothers death has nothing to do with the Crewes. We’ll chalk that up to your naivety and youth but you haven’t earned the right to negate the EVIDENCE we have accrued to prove you are wrong not to mention the evidence we have from Des Thomas. Murray was killed 11/11/11 right when the Police were doing their Police Review of the Crewe murders so when they must have realised it was their corrupt Crown Witness in the Thomas RCOI (Police AND Lobb) they must have realised they couldn’t put their witness up on the stand with Police VERSUS Lobb in Murray’s case so they manufactured some non disclosure issue which meant on the second day we went to court expecting to hear Lobb give evidence, instead we were told there was no chance of a successful prosecution. Police provided a perjured exhibit to the Bench to get Lobb off (Lobb was or is your grandfathers friend?)..This is EVIDENTIARY Aanya. We established that via the Ombudmans office so please don’t patronise and make it about yourself when there’s a bigger picture here. Your life isn’t ruined. That’s people using you for their own prejudicial reasons to suggest it is - a certain lawyer who has breached her role as a Crown Solicitor with her evidentiary conflict of interests which we have made a formal complaint about. So it’s you using your privilege to suggest it’s not OUR family whose lives were ruined. Our brother was KILLED and he didn’t get justice in death because the friend of your grandfathers was a corrupt crown witness for corrupt police so they had to protect him even though the policing act provides no such immunity as the Policing Act Section 6 states they must BIND THE CROWN as Miss Walker must when she took an Oath to the Crown. The legal principles set out by the full court of the High Court of New Zealand are clear with effect of FREE PARDON for Arthur but the Police are still implicating him in their Police Review of the Crewe murders which makes that Review illegal and unconstitutional . The legal principles set out make it clear Arthur should never have been accused of that crime again. Yet Ms Walker condoned that when she acted for Rochelle Crewe in that Police Review,;she didn’t advise new information about the Macken gun, nor did Police which breaches their own Terms of Ref, she ingratiated herself into our brothers case by saying she would help us look over the questions for worksafe before our meeting with the CEO but then we didn’t hear back from her but she instead went to Counties Manukau Police, and then we hear she was involved in your family’s custody issue, and she was involved in the latest prosecution against Arthur (and we KNOW all about THAT) so please don’t suggest we’re the ones who have acted illegally here. Ms Walker also had access to Appendices 1 which has been shockingly kept away from the public. The information therein gives clear information about the motive for the killing of the Crewes and shows Len Demler and Heather Demler DID have motive - they should never have been excluded. It was them who pointed the finger at Arthur!! Information Ms Walker did NOT pass on to her client Rochelle Crewe. Nor the new information about the Macken gun which was in the hands of Len Demler at the time of the murders but was NOT handed in as was mandated for all guns in the area inside a 5 mile radius. Arthur was outside that radius but handed his gun in anyway. It was handed to the Chittys and they told their worker to take it away. Again, Ms Walker has therefore breached her Crown Solicitors obligations (re conflict of interest) The Police Review is also based on Paul Neazor’s report - a Solicitor General who wasn’t even able to constitutionally undertake that role in 1982 to negate the findings of the Royal Commission to NOT prosecute Hutton and co. It wasn’t until 1986, when the NZ Constitution Act 1852 was repealed, that he could undertake such a role which is why that report didn’t appear until after 1986. These FACTS matter Aanya. Maybe not to you, because you are happy to live in an insular bubble where you choose to only hear what your grandparents tell you and that’s all that matters to you. I couldn’t live like that. I need to see FACTS. Keith Holyoake breached letters Patent in the Thomas RCOI to pass those findings of the Royal Commissioner on to Paul Neazor when the only one who could and should have actioned those findings was the Chief Law officer of the Crown, the Attorney General. A Governor General who breached Letters Patent for his cousin/nephew Ian Holoyoake who was in a senior role in POLICE so of course wanted to protect his corrupt mates Hutton and co from being prosecuted. ANY kiwi who thinks an unsolved double brutal murder should just be left alone as you suggest and doesn’t want justice to prevail in our democratic country, (what did our ANZACS fight and die for?) really needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. Justice is no more or no less than what every New Zealander has a right to in this country Aanya. Anyone who suggests otherwise should not be practising law. Im not being facetious here Aanya. (Because I love the law very much also and wish I had had the opportunity you have now) but you have to stop repeating what your grandparents want - that this will just all go away. You obviously feel a tremendous debt to them BUT as a grandparent myself, if they are using that against you to suggest you can’t first seek THE TRuTh AND NOtHING BUT THE TRuTH, thats not ok by them! Not ok at all. And I’m sorry if I’m wrong but every comment by THEM to denigrate US, proves they are worried so I don’t trust THEIR MOTIVE. We have EVIDENCE and THE TRUTH on OUR side. You can acept THEIR truth or THE truth going forward - that’s entirely your choice but I would have thought you don’t really have too much choice going forward when u have chosen the career you have. Be one of these kiwis the Royal Commissioner spoke about. The findings of a Royal Commissioner
492 - Such action is no more and no less than a shameful and cynical attack on the trust that ALL NEW ZEALANDER’S have and are entitled to have in their Police force and system of administration of justice. Mr Thomas suffered that outrage; he was the victim of that attack. His courage and that of a few very dedicated men and women who believed in the cause of justice has exposed the wrongs which were done’
‘In my opinion, if ever a facie case was established in the annals of the NZ justice system, it’s is the findings of the Royal Commission. It beggars belief that prosecutions were never initiated.
We are proudly women (and sisters of Murray killed at his workplace by Corrupt crown witness Mr X) who believe in the course of justice by exposing the wrongs which were done. Why aren’t YOU if you are doing law? I’ll pray you get the strength to realise you are one of the lucky ones. I’m glad you had a good life not exposed to the harsh realities but that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist. Take care, (and I DO care about how you are) but please don’t interfere and threaten us to act like you’re some victim when that is simply not true. You’re not a victim. There’s too many REAL victims because of corruption in this country. We don’t need kiwis playing at it. If at anytime you want evidence of any of what I have said, I’m more than happy to email you. You deserve THE truth. Not THEIR truth with eschewed perceptions and opinions. So many victims have had enough of that.
And I AM sorry if we got it wrong that you know our dear niece whose father was killed by a corrupt Crown Witness. We were shocked when we thought we saw your name on her friends list on Facebook. She’s a gorgeous girl your age. Sorry. We CAN say sorry when WE’RE wrong. Let’s see if your grandparents can?) Oh and it was your grandmother who advised online that you were doing law. So if you have an issue with us mentioning this, maybe speak to her first and foremost (Via Dennis Smith website)
Sandra
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