Dear Mr Brailsford
I acknowledge receipt of your Official information Act request as below.
Kind regards
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To: OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police
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From: Mr Brailsford <[FOI #11063 email]>
Date: 27/08/2019 05:23PM
Subject: Official Information request - Ihumātao related Police
Expenditure

Dear New Zealand Police,
I request under the OIA an itemised costing of Police activity at and
about Ihumātao between 1st July 2019 and 27th August 2019.
I request under the OIA daily number of constables deployed at and about
Ihumātao between 1st July 2019 and 27th August 2019, noted by rank and
home district.
I further request under the OIA any information, document, internal
communication or data that on a good faith review of information,
documents, internal communications or data made or held by the NZ Police
would assist a reasonable person to understand the cost of Police activity
at and about Ihumātao between 1st July 2019 and 27th August 2019.
Yours faithfully,
Mr Brailsford
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Good morning,
 
Please see attached response to your request for information dated
27/08/2019.
 
Kind regards,
 
Counties Manukau Records

 

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Good afternoon,
 
We have been in correspondence with the Ombudsman around this request for
information. I would like to offer a more detailed explanation over the
difficulties we face in answering the request but I do not have your phone
number.
 
Could you please provide a contact number?
 
Sincerely,
 
Sergeant Lauren MacMenigall  
 

Counties Manukau Records and Disclosure Unit

42 Manukau Station Road, Manukau, Auckland 2104

PO Box 76920

Ph: +64 9 263 2375

[email address]

*****************************************

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-----Forwarded by Lauren MacMenigall/POLICE/NZ on 21/11/2019 01:13PM -----
To: [FYI request #11063 email]
From: Counties Manukau Records/POLICE/NZ
Sent by: Lauren MacMenigall/POLICE/NZ
Date: 18/09/2019 09:29AM
Subject: Request for information IR-01-19-23670

(See attached file: IR 01-19-23670. pdf.pdf)

Good morning,
 
Please see attached response to your request for information dated
27/08/2019.
 
Kind regards,
 
Counties Manukau Records

 

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Dear Mr Brailsford,

 

In establishing cost for operation Hau (Policing the protests at Ihumatao)
there are a number of factors. The largest expense would be in the hours
for Police staff so I will direct the focus there initially. In July and
August there were 2861 staff rostered for this operation but 1/2861
represented a day or individual. Some staff obviously worked more than one
day so there were not 2861 different staff.  The staff are made up of
different ranks and experiences so their wages can range anywhere from
$52,000 per year to $140,000 per year and as such the hourly rate would
vary drastically. Of the 2861 staff working the operation some staff
worked a standard 8/9 hours while other staff were required to do 14/15
hour days.  Due to the level of staff required they were deployed from
multiple districts and their hours are managed by different police areas. 
The data is not collected in one place.

 

For example on the 30/07/2019:

1.      A list of employees would need to be generated for the 212 staff
for that day.

2.      The list would need to be disseminated to multiple work force
management groups around the country including Waitematä, Auckland,
Counties Manukau, Waikato, Northland and Bay of Plenty.

3.      Work force management teams would need to access each individual’s
timesheet for that day and provide the hours worked for that day.

4.      The hours worked would then need to be provided to human resources
who would need to access each individuals pay salary and provide a summary
for the cost in hours for that day.

This process would need to be repeated for each day of the operation and
each staff member assigned. There is no report or semi-automated way this
data can be collected or collated. The operation has been running for 5
months now.  The time to access all this data and then collate it is
substantial.

 

In addition, the hours do not account for other expenses including;
travel, food, accommodation and other miscellaneous expenses. The costs
are assimilated into varying budgets across the Police organisation and
have not been recorded under the project code.  This again would take
substantial manual collation.

 

Are you able to provide the reasons behind the request or what the
information would be used for?  With a substantial request of this nature
it can assist Police to weigh up the public interest versus cost to Police
when making a decision to collate the data.

 

If you are not satisfied with the explanation we can proceed to the next
level of a cost estimate, this would be based on an hourly rate of $76 and
is reliant on the charging guidelines of for the Official Information Act
1982.

 

Please advise accordingly of the next step you wish to proceed with.

 

Sincerely,

 

Lauren MacMenigall

 

 

[1]cid:image002.png@01D1B71A.821015E0 Lauren MACMENIGALL

Sergeant LMZ919
Protective Security Requirements
administrator

Counties Manukau | New Zealand
Police

P +211923473| Email
[2][email address]
Safer Communities Together

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: [email address]
[mailto:[email address]]
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 7:41 a.m.
To: MACMENIGALL, Lauren <[email address]>
Subject: Fw: Re: Fw: Request for information IR-01-19-23670

 

Morning Lauren,

 

Email from Mr Brailsford attached for your action.

 

Regards

Fi

Ministerial Services

-----Forwarded by Fiona MOFFITT2/POLICE/NZ on 25/11/2019 07:39AM -----

To: "OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police"
<[3][New Zealand Police request email]>
From: "Mr Brailsford" <[4][FOI #11063 email]>
Date: 23/11/2019 01:44PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Request for information IR-01-19-23670

Dear Sergeant Lauren MacMenigall,
Thank you for reaching out to offer to clarify the difficulties the New
Zealand Police have in addressing the request.
I would appreciate if you could do so in writing.
I have been harassed by New Zealand Police staff over the phone and while
I sincerely believe you would not engage in this behaviour I would prefer
to have all communications clearly documented. The added benefit of
outlining the difficulties in writing is that there will hopefully be less
room for misunderstanding.
Thank you again for reaching out to offer clarity, I Iook forward to
understanding the difficulties that relate to this request.
Yours faithfully,
Mr Brailsford
-----Original Message-----
Good afternoon,

We have been in correspondence with the Ombudsman around this request for
information. I would like to offer a more detailed explanation over the
difficulties we face in answering the request but I do not have your phone
number.

Could you please provide a contact number?
Sincerely,
Sergeant Lauren MacMenigall

Counties Manukau Records and Disclosure Unit
42 Manukau Station Road, Manukau, Auckland 2104
PO Box 76920
Ph: +64 9 263 2375
[email address]

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page.
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Good Morning Mr Brailsford.

 

I am following up on some open matters from last year. Have you put any
thought into how you wish to proceed with this request for information or
has my explanation been sufficient? If my explanation is sufficient I will
notify the Ombudsman or you can notify them directly so we can close this
matter.  

 

Sincerely,

 

Sergeant Lauren MacMenigall

 

From: MACMENIGALL, Lauren
Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2019 12:56 p.m.
To: '[FOI #11063 email]'
<[FOI #11063 email]>
Subject: FW: Re: Fw: Request for information IR-01-19-23670

 

Dear Mr Brailsford,

 

In establishing cost for operation Hau (Policing the protests at Ihumatao)
there are a number of factors. The largest expense would be in the hours
for Police staff so I will direct the focus there initially. In July and
August there were 2861 staff rostered for this operation but 1/2861
represented a day or individual. Some staff obviously worked more than one
day so there were not 2861 different staff.  The staff are made up of
different ranks and experiences so their wages can range anywhere from
$52,000 per year to $140,000 per year and as such the hourly rate would
vary drastically. Of the 2861 staff working the operation some staff
worked a standard 8/9 hours while other staff were required to do 14/15
hour days.  Due to the level of staff required they were deployed from
multiple districts and their hours are managed by different police areas. 
The data is not collected in one place.

 

For example on the 30/07/2019:

1.      A list of employees would need to be generated for the 212 staff
for that day.

2.      The list would need to be disseminated to multiple work force
management groups around the country including Waitematä, Auckland,
Counties Manukau, Waikato, Northland and Bay of Plenty.

3.      Work force management teams would need to access each individual’s
timesheet for that day and provide the hours worked for that day.

4.      The hours worked would then need to be provided to human resources
who would need to access each individuals pay salary and provide a summary
for the cost in hours for that day.

This process would need to be repeated for each day of the operation and
each staff member assigned. There is no report or semi-automated way this
data can be collected or collated. The operation has been running for 5
months now.  The time to access all this data and then collate it is
substantial.

 

In addition, the hours do not account for other expenses including;
travel, food, accommodation and other miscellaneous expenses. The costs
are assimilated into varying budgets across the Police organisation and
have not been recorded under the project code.  This again would take
substantial manual collation.

 

Are you able to provide the reasons behind the request or what the
information would be used for?  With a substantial request of this nature
it can assist Police to weigh up the public interest versus cost to Police
when making a decision to collate the data.

 

If you are not satisfied with the explanation we can proceed to the next
level of a cost estimate, this would be based on an hourly rate of $76 and
is reliant on the charging guidelines of for the Official Information Act
1982.

 

Please advise accordingly of the next step you wish to proceed with.

 

Sincerely,

 

Lauren MacMenigall

 

 

[1]cid:image002.png@01D1B71A.821015E0 Lauren MACMENIGALL

Sergeant LMZ919
Protective Security Requirements
administrator

Counties Manukau | New Zealand
Police

P +211923473| Email
[2][email address]
Safer Communities Together

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: [3][email address]
[[4]mailto:[email address]]
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 7:41 a.m.
To: MACMENIGALL, Lauren <[5][email address]>
Subject: Fw: Re: Fw: Request for information IR-01-19-23670

 

Morning Lauren,

 

Email from Mr Brailsford attached for your action.

 

Regards

Fi

Ministerial Services

-----Forwarded by Fiona MOFFITT2/POLICE/NZ on 25/11/2019 07:39AM -----

To: "OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police"
<[6][New Zealand Police request email]>
From: "Mr Brailsford" <[7][FOI #11063 email]>
Date: 23/11/2019 01:44PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Request for information IR-01-19-23670

Dear Sergeant Lauren MacMenigall,
Thank you for reaching out to offer to clarify the difficulties the New
Zealand Police have in addressing the request.
I would appreciate if you could do so in writing.
I have been harassed by New Zealand Police staff over the phone and while
I sincerely believe you would not engage in this behaviour I would prefer
to have all communications clearly documented. The added benefit of
outlining the difficulties in writing is that there will hopefully be less
room for misunderstanding.
Thank you again for reaching out to offer clarity, I Iook forward to
understanding the difficulties that relate to this request.
Yours faithfully,
Mr Brailsford
-----Original Message-----
Good afternoon,

We have been in correspondence with the Ombudsman around this request for
information. I would like to offer a more detailed explanation over the
difficulties we face in answering the request but I do not have your phone
number.

Could you please provide a contact number?
Sincerely,
Sergeant Lauren MacMenigall

Counties Manukau Records and Disclosure Unit
42 Manukau Station Road, Manukau, Auckland 2104
PO Box 76920
Ph: +64 9 263 2375
[email address]

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Dear Mr Brailsford,
 
We have reviewed your request from the 27th August 2019. Please see letter
attached for further details.
 
Sincerely,
 
Sergeant Lauren MacMenigall
 
 

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Good morning
We have reviewed your request for information and now provide updated
Police response as attached.
Regards

Counties Manukau Records and Disclosure Unit

42 Manukau Station Road, Manukau, Auckland 2104

PO Box 76920

Ph: +64 9 261 2804

[email address]

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