Group Dwelling statistics
WG made this Official Information request to Department of Building and Housing
The request was refused by Department of Building and Housing.
From: WG
Dear Department of Building and Housing,
1. How many group dwellings in New Zealand are there? Please give examples.
2. How many group dwellings are there in the Queenstown-Lakes District?
3. How many examples are there in New Zealand of houses with residential building consents being treated as a group dwelling? Please give examples.
4. How many group dwellings are there in New Zealand that are neither a commune nor a marae? Please give examples.
5. Please give examples of fire standards used in group dwellings that are neither a commune nor a marae.
6. When does a large house become a group dwelling? What are the criterion used to judge in cases that the house is neither a commune nor a marae?
7. Does the difference between a single household unit and a group dwelling depend on the size of the house? Does it depend on the numbers living in the house? Does it depend on whether there is a single group of people living in the house (single household unit) or multiple groups of people (in a group dwelling)?
8. How do you define multiple groups of people in a group dwelling as opposed to a single household? Couples frequently live in single household units so that cannot apply. How many people is a multiple group of people for the purposes of a group dwelling? A family? What are the characteristics of the "groups of people" in a group dwelling?
Yours faithfully.
WG
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From: Coralie Berryman On Behalf Of ~Info
Sent: Monday, 5 November 2012 9:29 a.m.
To: ~Information Services
Subject: FW: Official Information Act request - Group Dwelling statistics
Please respond to the below OIA request
Yours sincerely
Coralie Berryman
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Building and Housing group
Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
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From: WG [mailto:[OIA #656 email]]
Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2012 4:32 p.m.
To: ~Info
Subject: Official Information Act request - Group Dwelling statistics
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Dear Department of Building and Housing,
1. How many group dwellings in New Zealand are there? Please give
examples.
2. How many group dwellings are there in the Queenstown-Lakes
District?
3. How many examples are there in New Zealand of houses with
residential building consents being treated as a group dwelling?
Please give examples.
4. How many group dwellings are there in New Zealand that are
neither a commune nor a marae? Please give examples.
5. Please give examples of fire standards used in group dwellings
that are neither a commune nor a marae.
6. When does a large house become a group dwelling? What are the
criterion used to judge in cases that the house is neither a
commune nor a marae?
7. Does the difference between a single household unit and a group
dwelling depend on the size of the house? Does it depend on the
numbers living in the house? Does it depend on whether there is a
single group of people living in the house (single household unit)
or multiple groups of people (in a group dwelling)?
8. How do you define multiple groups of people in a group dwelling
as opposed to a single household? Couples frequently live in single
household units so that cannot apply. How many people is a multiple
group of people for the purposes of a group dwelling? A family?
What are the characteristics of the "groups of people" in a group
dwelling?
Yours faithfully.
WG
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From: Judith Maxim
Department of Building and Housing
Good afternoon
Thank you for your enquiry. Please advise how you define the term 'group dwelling'.
Once we have established this, we will then be able to take a look at your request.
With thanks, Judith
Judith Maxim, Research Advisor, Building and Housing Group, Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment
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Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2012 9:45 a.m.
To: '[OIA #656 email]'
Subject: FW: Official Information Act request - Group Dwelling statistics
Good Morning,
Please find attached your acknowledgement, regarding your information request.
Kind Regards,
--
Kara Bradley, Advisor Ministerial & Records, Building and Housing Group, Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment
ddi: (04) 817-4849 | fax: (04) 494-0290
Level 6, 86 Customhouse Quay, PO Box 10729, Wellington 6011
-----Original Message-----
From: Coralie Berryman On Behalf Of ~Info
Sent: Monday, 5 November 2012 9:29 a.m.
To: ~Information Services
Subject: FW: Official Information Act request - Group Dwelling statistics
Please respond to the below OIA request
Yours sincerely
Coralie Berryman
TEAM LEADER CONTACT CENTRE
Building and Housing group
Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
DDI: (04) 237 1155
[mobile number]
City Fitness Building, 1st Floor, 1 Walton Leigh Avenue
WELLINGTON
PO Box 50445, WELLINGTON, New Zealand
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From: WG [mailto:[OIA #656 email]]
Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2012 4:32 p.m.
To: ~Info
Subject: Official Information Act request - Group Dwelling statistics
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Dear Department of Building and Housing,
1. How many group dwellings in New Zealand are there? Please give
examples.
2. How many group dwellings are there in the Queenstown-Lakes
District?
3. How many examples are there in New Zealand of houses with
residential building consents being treated as a group dwelling?
Please give examples.
4. How many group dwellings are there in New Zealand that are
neither a commune nor a marae? Please give examples.
5. Please give examples of fire standards used in group dwellings
that are neither a commune nor a marae.
6. When does a large house become a group dwelling? What are the
criterion used to judge in cases that the house is neither a
commune nor a marae?
7. Does the difference between a single household unit and a group
dwelling depend on the size of the house? Does it depend on the
numbers living in the house? Does it depend on whether there is a
single group of people living in the house (single household unit)
or multiple groups of people (in a group dwelling)?
8. How do you define multiple groups of people in a group dwelling
as opposed to a single household? Couples frequently live in single
household units so that cannot apply. How many people is a multiple
group of people for the purposes of a group dwelling? A family?
What are the characteristics of the "groups of people" in a group
dwelling?
Yours faithfully.
WG
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From: ~Information Services
Department of Building and Housing
Dear WG
Due to an administrative error, the OIA number on your acknowledgement
letter is incorrect.
Please find attached an updated acknowledgement letter with the correct
OIA number.
I apologise for any inconvenience this mayhave caused.
Regards
Mike Greening on behalf of the Knowledge Services Team
Knowledge Services Team
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From: WG
Dear ~Information Services,
"Group Dwelling" is defined in the Building Act, I believe, as one of the categories of residential housing.
Please answer my questions.
Yours sincerely,
WG
From: Natalie Wesbroom
Department of Building and Housing
Good afternoon,
Please find attached a letter regarding the transfer of some questions to
Statistic New Zealand.
Kind regards
Natalie Wesbroom
Administration Officer
Building and Housing Group, Ministry of Business, Innovation and
Employment
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From: Natalie Wesbroom
Department of Building and Housing
Please find attached a response to your Official Information Act request.
Many thanks
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Building Standards, Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment
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From: WG
Dear Natalie Wesbroom,
Please answer each question separately WITHOUT simply referring back to the Determination that you have mentioned.
I am trying to establish whether the DBH used ANY priorly established criterion at all to determine whether the house in that Determination was a residential house or a group dwelling.
It seems that the DBH did not have any prior examples of large houses being regarded as group dwellings. It seems that the DBH did not rely on any prior established criteria for distinguishing between large residential houses and group dwellings. Up to 40 people may reside in a residential house under NZ law so numbers, as long as they are under 40, are not a criterion. Nor is the physical size of the house. The only distinction between an SHU and a group dwelling otherwise is whether they have a single group of people or multiple groups of people.
It seems that the DBH has never labelled ANY other large house a group dwelling and has, in effect, created a NEW category of large house as group dwelling.
Please answer each and every question I have asked without reference to the problematic Determination you have mentioned and based on examples BEFORE that Determination was made. Please explain on what prior examples and what prior evidence the DBH made the problematic Determination.
WG
Yours sincerely,
WG
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Hi WG
Thank you for your email. Attached is an acknowledgement letter re your
information request.
Kind regards
Lisa Sioeli, Advisor Records And Ministerials, Building and Housing Group,
Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment
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From: Savita Parbhu
Department of Building and Housing
Dear WG
Please find attached a copy of the response from Adrian Regnault, General
Manager, Building System Performance Branch.
Yours sincerely
Savita Parbhu
Savita Parbhu
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General Manager Building System Performance Branch
Infrastructure & Resource Market Group
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Actually, the definition of a "group dwelling" is what I am asking you for, in detail. So please answer this question yourselves.
What is the definition of a "group dwelling".
What distinguishes a "group dwelling" from a single household unit?
These ARE the questions I am asking you so please do answer.
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