Information about specific drivers
Hugh Davenport made this Official Information request to Wellington Regional Council
The request was refused by Wellington Regional Council.
      From: Hugh Davenport
      
    
    Dear Wellington Regional Council,
Attention Margaret Meek
I would like to request the licence plate number, and the driver ID number of the following buses. I should note that this is a large request, however all these buses have been reported to Metlink prior so I would hope that their processes have already gathered this information so this information should not be substantial to collate. For clarification, the reports were given to Metlink via email on 24 Oct 2018, 10 Nov 2018, 24 Nov 2018, and 10 Dec 2018. The buses in this batch are all from the folder "Entering on a red light" from each of those reports. None of the other folders have been used for this to limit the scope and potential of letting in "not that illegal" results.
All of these buses are likely to clearly have broken the law as per Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004, section 3.2 (5).
Videos are available at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1..., https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OgnA1x..., https://drive.google.com/open?id=1j5ovgm..., and https://drive.google.com/open?id=1txqlKp....
As the footage of the videos are not of the highest quality, some of the details can't be made out. This is shown by question marks surrounding the field (such as route ?2? meaning maybe 2, or route ?? meaning unknown (may be NIS)). All of the buses will be travelling through the Willis st intersection at Chews Lane. I've made an effort to list either southbound or northbound, but this may be wrong due to user error.
If any information is not easily available (due to the time, route, or direction not being accurate), please don't go to too much trouble to collate the information but please also state that you have not collated that particular information.
This information is being used to determine whether any bus drivers are repeat offenders. This is something that I would have hoped that Metlink have done prior given my reports. If that is the case, then the information should be readily available. If that is not the case... I'm sure you will follow up with any repeat offenders.
The list of buses are as follows:
Reported 24 Oct 2018
Oct 11 2018, 10:24am, route 1GV, double, green, north
Oct 11 2018, 4:39pm, route 1GV, single, green, north
Oct 18 2018, 5:45pm, route 3, single, green, north
Oct 16 2018, 3:41pm, route 3, single, yellow, north
Oct 16 2018, 6:36pm, route 91, single, orange, north
Oct 23 2018, 1:39pm, route 3, single, blue, north
Oct 23 2018, 2:25pm, route 1, double, green, south
Oct 23 2018, 7:06pm, route 52, single, green, north
Oct 9 2018, 9:36am, route 52, single, green, north
Oct 10 2018, 3:08pm, route 7, single, green, north
Oct 10 2018, 3:10pm, route 1GV, single, green, north
Oct 17 2018, 2:56pm, route 52, single, green, north
Oct 17 2018, 7:37pm, route 52, single, green, north, cop behind
Oct 24 2018, 8:06am, route 7, double, green, north
Reported 10 Nov 2018
Nov 9 2018, 7:13am, route ?26?, single, green, north
Nov 9 2018, 4:41pm, route 7, single, green, south
Nov 9 2018, 8:15pm, route ?1?, single, green, north
Nov 5 2018, 2:35pm, route 1CP, double, green, north
Nov 8 2018, 9:00am, route 32x, double, green, north
Nov 7 2018, 5:02pm, route ?32?, single, green, north
Oct 31 2018, 2:23pm, route 7, single, green, north
Reported 24 Nov 2018
Nov 12 2018, 8:49pm, route 23e, single, green, north
Nov 12 2018, 9:02am, route 24, single, green, north
Nov 12 2018, 4:15pm, route ??, single, green, north
Nov 15 2018, 8:59am, route 36, single, green, north
Nov 15 2018, 10:11am, route 1, double, green, south
Nov 15 2018, 1:38pm, route 52, single, green, north
Nov 15 2018, 4:12pm, route 60e, single, green, north
Nov 22 2018, 9:25am, route 2, single, green, north
Nov 22 2018, 1:51pm, route 25, single, green, north
Nov 22 2018, 2:54pm, route ??, single, yellow, north
Nov 22 2018, 6:23pm, route 7, single, green, north
Nov 22 2018, 5:05pm, route 24, single, green, north
Nov 22 2018, 5:14pm, route 56, single, green, north
Nov 22 2018, 6:10pm, route 52, single, green, north
Nov 20 2018, 4:36pm, route 56, single, green, north
Nov 20 2018, 4:43pm, route 57, single, green, north
Nov 14 2018, 5:34pm, route 2, single, green, north
Reported 10 Dec 2018
Dec 3 2018, 3:43pm, route 14, single, yellow, north
Dec 4 2018, 7:23am, route 24, single, green, north
Dec 4 2018, 8:37am, route 83, single, yellow, north
Dec 4 2018, 9:28am, route ?2?, single, yellow, south
Dec 4 2018, 10:27am, route 1CP, double, green, north
Dec 4 2018, 12:11pm, route 52, single, green, south
Dec 4 2018, 12:26pm, route 24, single, green, south
Dec 4 2018, 1:31pm, route 1, double, green, south
Dec 4 2018, 3:53pm, route 25, single, green, north
Dec 5 2018, 3:38pm, route 32x, single, green, south
Dec 5 2018, 4:38pm, route 56, single, green, north
Dec 5 2018, 9:18pm, route ??, single, green, south
Dec 6 2018, 7:13am, route ??, single, green, north
Dec 6 2018, 7:40am, route 1, double, green, south
Dec 6 2018, 8:38am, route ??, single, green, south
Dec 6 2018, 9:28am, route 25, single, green, south
Dec 6 2018, 11:48am, route ??, single, yellow, north
Dec 6 2018, 11:57am, route 7, double, green, north
Dec 6 2018, 5:09pm, route ??, single, yellow, north
Dec 6 2018, 6:05pm, route ?29e or 23e?, single, green, south
Dec 6 2018, 6:12pm, route 29e, single, green, south
Dec 6 2018, 6:58pm, route 23e, double, green, south
Dec 7 2018, 8:05am, route 81, single, green, south
Dec 7 2018, 10:44am, route 91, single, orange, north
Nov 29 2018, 3:51pm, route 14, single, green, north
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
        From: Darrell Young
        Wellington Regional Council
      
    
    Dear Hugh,
 
Acknowledgement of Request for Information under the Local Government
 Official Information and Meetings Act 1987
 
Thank you for your email dated 19 February 2019, requesting information
 about specific drivers.
 
Your request is being followed-up and a reply will be sent to you within
 20 working days of the request being received.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Darrell Young
 
 
for
Luke Troy
General Manager
Strategy
Greater Wellington Regional Council
 
 
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        From: Nichola Powell
        Wellington Regional Council
      
    
    Dear Mr Davenport
Attached is our response to your recent OIA 2019-056
 
Yours sincerely
 
Nichola
 
Nichola Powell | Executive Assistant to General Manager Public Transport
  
 GREATER WELLINGTON REGIONAL COUNCIL
 Te Pane Matua Taiao
 Level 2, 15 Walter Street
PO Box 11646, Manners St, Wellington 6142
 T: 04 830 4179 | www.gw.govt.nz | www.metlink.org.nz
 
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      From: Hugh Davenport
      
    
    Dear Nichola Powell,
I'm a bit confused why this information was not recovered when these reports were given to Metlink via email on 24 Oct 2018, 10 Nov 2018, 24 Nov 2018, and 10 Dec 2018. One would hope that given a large amount of reports with VIDEO evidence of bus drivers breaking the law, that Metlink would do a bit more than just send one email (which is all that seems to have happened given my previous LGOIMA), and filing it all under one ticket. I think that your organisation should think very carefully about how they treat safety concerns with their bus drivers.
How about I limit the scope of my request to just the driver ID, and the following:
Reported 24 Oct 2018
Oct 11 2018, 10:24am, route 1GV, double, green, north
Oct 11 2018, 4:39pm, route 1GV, single, green, north
Oct 18 2018, 5:45pm, route 3, single, green, north
Oct 16 2018, 3:41pm, route 3, single, yellow, north
Oct 16 2018, 6:36pm, route 91, single, orange, north
Oct 23 2018, 1:39pm, route 3, single, blue, north
Oct 23 2018, 2:25pm, route 1, double, green, south
Oct 23 2018, 7:06pm, route 52, single, green, north
Oct 9 2018, 9:36am, route 52, single, green, north
Oct 10 2018, 3:08pm, route 7, single, green, north
Oct 10 2018, 3:10pm, route 1GV, single, green, north
Oct 17 2018, 2:56pm, route 52, single, green, north
Oct 17 2018, 7:37pm, route 52, single, green, north, cop behind
Oct 24 2018, 8:06am, route 7, double, green, north 
If this is still too much, then please contact me as per section 17B of the LGOIMA. Clearly I am happy to limit my request, so I very much hope that you considered consulting with me. I would like to know the reasoning behind your consideration of *not* consulting me.
"If a request is likely to be refused under section 17(e) or (f), the local authority must, before that request is refused, consider whether consulting with the person who made the request would assist that person to make the request in a form that would remove the reason for the refusal."
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
      From: Hugh Davenport
      
    
    Dear Wellington Regional Council,
Attention Margaret Meek
Can I please get acknowledgement about the scope decrease on this, or should I open a new ticket? Feel free to contact me under 17B of the LGOIMA. I would also like to know the reasoning behind your consideration of *not* consulting with me for this request before refusing it.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
        From: Margaret Meek
        Wellington Regional Council
      
    
    Hello Hugh
 
Thank you for resending me your reduced request.  We will assess this
 reduced request to determine whether we are able to provide you with the
 information.
 
Regards
 
Margaret
 
Margaret Meek  | Business Advisor
 Metlink
T 04 830 4393
 L2, 15 Walter St, Te Aro, Wellington 6011 | PO Box 11646, Manners St,
 Wellington 6142
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From: Hugh Davenport [mailto:[email address]]
 Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2019 3:55 p.m.
 To: Margaret Meek
 Subject: Re: Re: Official Information request - Information about specific
 drivers [#1C586J]
 
From [5]https://fyi.org.nz/request/9630-informat....
 Could the response please get sent via FYI.
I'm a bit confused why this information was not recovered when these
 reports were given to Metlink via email on 24 Oct 2018, 10 Nov 2018, 24
 Nov 2018, and 10 Dec 2018. One would hope that given a large amount of
 reports with VIDEO evidence of bus drivers breaking the law, that Metlink
 would do a bit more than just send one email (which is all that seems to
 have happened given my previous LGOIMA), and filing it all under one
 ticket. I think that your organisation should think very carefully about
 how they treat safety concerns with their bus drivers.
How about I limit the scope of my request to just the driver ID, and the
 following:
Reported 24 Oct 2018 
 Oct 11 2018, 10:24am, route 1GV, double, green, north 
 Oct 11 2018, 4:39pm, route 1GV, single, green, north 
 Oct 18 2018, 5:45pm, route 3, single, green, north 
 Oct 16 2018, 3:41pm, route 3, single, yellow, north 
 Oct 16 2018, 6:36pm, route 91, single, orange, north 
 Oct 23 2018, 1:39pm, route 3, single, blue, north 
 Oct 23 2018, 2:25pm, route 1, double, green, south 
 Oct 23 2018, 7:06pm, route 52, single, green, north 
 Oct 9 2018, 9:36am, route 52, single, green, north 
 Oct 10 2018, 3:08pm, route 7, single, green, north 
 Oct 10 2018, 3:10pm, route 1GV, single, green, north 
 Oct 17 2018, 2:56pm, route 52, single, green, north 
 Oct 17 2018, 7:37pm, route 52, single, green, north, cop behind 
 Oct 24 2018, 8:06am, route 7, double, green, north
If this is still too much, then please contact me as per section 17B of
 the LGOIMA. Clearly I am happy to limit my request, so I very much hope
 that you considered consulting with me. I would like to know the reasoning
 behind your consideration of *not* consulting me. 
 "If a request is likely to be refused under section 17(e) or (f), the
 local authority must, before that request is refused, consider whether
 consulting with the person who made the request would assist that person
 to make the request in a form that would remove the reason for the
 refusal."
 
 
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 15:30, Margaret Meek <[6][email address]>
 wrote:
Hello Hugh
 
Thanks for your email.  Did you send through an email decreasing the
 scope of this request?  If you did, would you be able to resend it to
 me.
 
Regards
 
Margaret
 
 
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      From: Hugh Davenport
      
    
    Dear Wellington Regional Council,
While the issue with red light running was discussed in a meeting with Greg Pollock today, I'm still don't have transparency of whether Metlink have indeed followed up with the operators on the serious incidents, and would still be interested in this information.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
      From: Hugh Davenport
      
    
    Dear Margaret Meek,
I believe the follow up I sent on March 19 is now overdue using the Ombudsman's response calculator.
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
        From: Margaret Meek
        Wellington Regional Council
      
    
    Thank you for your email.  I will be away from the office from Wednesday
 17 April until Monday 29 April. 
 
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        From: Greg Pollock
        Wellington Regional Council
      
    
    Dear Mr Davenport
  
 Thank you for your follow-up email regarding OIA 2019-056.  We apologise
 for the delay in replying to you.
  
 In your follow-up email you have asked to know the reasoning behind GWRC
 not consulting you to refine your previous request.  You have also
 requested the driver ID number for a reduced number of incidences (14).
  
 As detailed in GWRC's response of 19 March 2019, your request was refused
 under s. 17(f) of the Local Government Official Information and Meetings
 Act 1987 (the Act) as the request would necessitate substantial collation
 and research. GWRC’s response also advised you that even if this
 substantial collation and research was undertaken GWRC was not confident
 that it would identify with any certainty the bus and bus driver relating
 to the specific incidents you requested.  As outlined in our response of
 19 March 2019, GWRC did not consider consulting further with you would
 assist you to make the request in a form that would remove the reason for
 the refusal.
  
 Since responding to your initial request on the 19 March 2019,  GWRC has
 identified an alternative method of extracting information from our
 system. While the information is now subsequently available, it raises the
 issue of the privacy of bus drivers in relation to their driver ID number.
 After reviewing this new information, GWRC has made the decision to
 withhold the bus driver ID numbers and relies on  s. 7(2)(a) of the Act -
 to protect the privacy of natural persons.
  
 GWRC has considered whether the public interest in the requested
 information outweighs GWRC’s need to withhold certain aspects of the
 requested information. As a result, we do not consider that the public
 interest outweighs GWRC’s reason for withholding bus driver ID numbers,
 under the grounds identified above
  
 You have the right to request an investigation and review by the Ombudsman
 under section 27(3) of the Act if you have any concerns with the
 decision(s) referred to in this letter.
  
 Greg Pollock | General Manager, Public Transport
 GREATER WELLINGTON REGIONAL COUNCIL
 Te Pane Matua Taiao
 Level 2, 15 Walter Street, Te Aro, Wellington 6011 | PO Box 11646, Manners
 St, Wellington 6142
 M: 027 232 1790 |
 [1]www.gw.govt.nz |
  
  
  
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      From: Hugh Davenport
      
    
    Dear Greg Pollock,
Thanks for that. Could I further change my request to the following:
For each of the buses below (I have gone back to the full list again as you mention you have an alternate method of extracting the information, however if this is likely to be refused under s17(f), then please contact me and I can reduce it), please provide:
a) The licence plate number of the bus
b) While providing privacy of the driver, the number of times that the driver of this bus at this time would be driving another bus at a date/time specified in the list. 
  - A few examples of the data I want:
   - If bus driver ID #1 was driving a bus route 1GV north on Oct 11 2018 at 10:24am, and driver ID #1 was also driving route 23e on Nov 12 2018 at 8:49pm, then the number in the response should be 2.
   - If driver ID #2 was driving a bus route 1GV north on Oct 11 2018 at 4:39pm, and no other bus in the list below, then the number in the response should be 1.
   - Hopefully you get the picture here, but please contact me if that doesn't make sense. I don't want to remove anyones privacy. My aim is to determine whether any of these serious incidents involved the same driver. There may be 63 unique drivers (number in the response all 1), or there could just be 1 driver doing mayhem in the city (number in the response all 63), or there could be a mix of drivers in the list. I would expect that given all of these incidents were reported to Metlink, and all contained some serious incidents, that Metlink have already done the due diligence and worked out whether there are a select few drivers, or it is evenly spread over the fleet. Given my responses from Metlink to date, I don't believe this is the case, hence my asking as an OIA.
c) While providing privacy of the driver, the number of times the driver had any remedial training:
 i) after the incident, and
 ii) prior to the incident
  - For "remedial training", I don't know what Metlink and/or the operator call this, but for clarity, I'm meaning any training required of the driver due to an incident reported to Metlink and/or the operator 
  - For example, if driver ID #1 appears in the list below, and in the past they were required to undergo 3 remedial training sessions prior to the incident (as reported to the operator), and then maybe 2 more remedial training sessions after the incident, then the response should be: i) 3, and ii) 2.
d) The date on which this incident was reported to the operator. If this incident was never reported to the operator, then a brief reasoning on why.
e) The case number of the incident.
The list of buses are as follows:
Reported 24 Oct 2018 
Oct 11 2018, 10:24am, route 1GV, double, green, north 
Oct 11 2018, 4:39pm, route 1GV, single, green, north 
Oct 18 2018, 5:45pm, route 3, single, green, north 
Oct 16 2018, 3:41pm, route 3, single, yellow, north 
Oct 16 2018, 6:36pm, route 91, single, orange, north 
Oct 23 2018, 1:39pm, route 3, single, blue, north 
Oct 23 2018, 2:25pm, route 1, double, green, south 
Oct 23 2018, 7:06pm, route 52, single, green, north 
Oct 9 2018, 9:36am, route 52, single, green, north 
Oct 10 2018, 3:08pm, route 7, single, green, north 
Oct 10 2018, 3:10pm, route 1GV, single, green, north 
Oct 17 2018, 2:56pm, route 52, single, green, north 
Oct 17 2018, 7:37pm, route 52, single, green, north, cop behind 
Oct 24 2018, 8:06am, route 7, double, green, north
Reported 10 Nov 2018 
Nov 9 2018, 7:13am, route ?26?, single, green, north 
Nov 9 2018, 4:41pm, route 7, single, green, south 
Nov 9 2018, 8:15pm, route ?1?, single, green, north 
Nov 5 2018, 2:35pm, route 1CP, double, green, north 
Nov 8 2018, 9:00am, route 32x, double, green, north 
Nov 7 2018, 5:02pm, route ?32?, single, green, north 
Oct 31 2018, 2:23pm, route 7, single, green, north
Reported 24 Nov 2018 
Nov 12 2018, 8:49pm, route 23e, single, green, north 
Nov 12 2018, 9:02am, route 24, single, green, north 
Nov 12 2018, 4:15pm, route ??, single, green, north 
Nov 15 2018, 8:59am, route 36, single, green, north 
Nov 15 2018, 10:11am, route 1, double, green, south 
Nov 15 2018, 1:38pm, route 52, single, green, north 
Nov 15 2018, 4:12pm, route 60e, single, green, north 
Nov 22 2018, 9:25am, route 2, single, green, north 
Nov 22 2018, 1:51pm, route 25, single, green, north 
Nov 22 2018, 2:54pm, route ??, single, yellow, north 
Nov 22 2018, 6:23pm, route 7, single, green, north 
Nov 22 2018, 5:05pm, route 24, single, green, north 
Nov 22 2018, 5:14pm, route 56, single, green, north 
Nov 22 2018, 6:10pm, route 52, single, green, north 
Nov 20 2018, 4:36pm, route 56, single, green, north 
Nov 20 2018, 4:43pm, route 57, single, green, north 
Nov 14 2018, 5:34pm, route 2, single, green, north
Reported 10 Dec 2018 
Dec 3 2018, 3:43pm, route 14, single, yellow, north 
Dec 4 2018, 7:23am, route 24, single, green, north 
Dec 4 2018, 8:37am, route 83, single, yellow, north 
Dec 4 2018, 9:28am, route ?2?, single, yellow, south 
Dec 4 2018, 10:27am, route 1CP, double, green, north 
Dec 4 2018, 12:11pm, route 52, single, green, south 
Dec 4 2018, 12:26pm, route 24, single, green, south 
Dec 4 2018, 1:31pm, route 1, double, green, south 
Dec 4 2018, 3:53pm, route 25, single, green, north 
Dec 5 2018, 3:38pm, route 32x, single, green, south 
Dec 5 2018, 4:38pm, route 56, single, green, north 
Dec 5 2018, 9:18pm, route ??, single, green, south 
Dec 6 2018, 7:13am, route ??, single, green, north 
Dec 6 2018, 7:40am, route 1, double, green, south 
Dec 6 2018, 8:38am, route ??, single, green, south 
Dec 6 2018, 9:28am, route 25, single, green, south 
Dec 6 2018, 11:48am, route ??, single, yellow, north 
Dec 6 2018, 11:57am, route 7, double, green, north 
Dec 6 2018, 5:09pm, route ??, single, yellow, north 
Dec 6 2018, 6:05pm, route ?29e or 23e?, single, green, south 
Dec 6 2018, 6:12pm, route 29e, single, green, south 
Dec 6 2018, 6:58pm, route 23e, double, green, south 
Dec 7 2018, 8:05am, route 81, single, green, south 
Dec 7 2018, 10:44am, route 91, single, orange, north 
Nov 29 2018, 3:51pm, route 14, single, green, north
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
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Got asked via email what my reduction in scope was. Provided the reduction again and reminded them to reply via FYI
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