Information regarding procedures when a bus runs a red light
Hugh Davenport made this Official Information request to Wellington Regional Council
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From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Wellington Regional Council,
I would like to request any procedures of Metlink or their contractors on what happens after a bus driver goes through a red light in the Metlink network.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
From: Sam Horsefield
Wellington Regional Council
Dear Hugh,
Acknowledgement of Request for Information
Thank you for your email dated 13 December 2018, requesting information
regarding procedures when a bus runs a red light.
Your request is being followed-up and a reply will be sent to you shortly.
Yours sincerely,
Sam Horsefield
for
Luke Troy
General Manager
Strategy
Greater Wellington Regional Council
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From: Helen Plant
Wellington Regional Council
Dear Mr Davenport
Attached is our response to your recent OIA 2018-379.
Yours sincerely
Helen Plant
Helen Plant | Executive Assistant to Chair and General Manager Public
Transport
GREATER WELLINGTON REGIONAL COUNCIL
Te Pane Matua Taiao
Shed 39, 2 Fryatt Quay, Pipitea, Wellington 6011: PO Box 11646, Manners
St, Wellington 6142
T: 04 830 4246 M: 027 201 2478
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From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Helen Plant,
In regards to the copies of individual operators’ procedures for their investigations
and actions taken. I refer to the following. Can this please be supplied.
As for whether this data is "held" by the agency, I refer to s 2(6) LGOIMA.
"Any information held by an independent contractor engaged by any local authority in his or her capacity as an independent contractor is, for the purposes of this Act, deemed to be held by the local authority.", paraphrased "Information which an independent contractor to an agency holds in that capacity is deemed to be held by the agency"
I note that all the bus contractors are independent contractors engaged by GWRC on behalf of Metlink and in their capacity of the independent contractors they hold the data of their procedures.
Cheers,
Hugh
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Wellington Regional Council,
In regards to the copies of individual operators’ procedures for their investigations
and actions taken, would I be able to get a response under s 2(6) of the LGOIMA.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Helen Plant,
In regards to the copies of individual operators’ procedures for their investigations
and actions taken, would I be able to get a response under s 2(6) of the LGOIMA.
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Wellington Regional Council,
Just chasing up on this. In regards to the copies of individual operators’ procedures for their investigations
and actions taken, would I be able to get a response under s 2(6) of the LGOIMA. This is quite overdue now.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
From: Sam Horsefield
Wellington Regional Council
Dear Hugh,
I have passed your email onto the person responding to this request.
Yours sincerely,
Sam Horsefield
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From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Sam Horsefield,
Just chasing up on this. In regards to the copies of individual operators’ procedures for their investigations
and actions taken, would I be able to get a response under s 2(6) of the LGOIMA. This is quite overdue now.
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Wellington Regional Council,
Just chasing up on this. In regards to the copies of individual operators’ procedures for their investigations
and actions taken, would I be able to get a response under s 2(6) of the LGOIMA. This is quite overdue now, and I would appreciate a response.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Wellington Regional Council,
Can this please get responded to. I originally asked for procedures for both Metlink and the operators. The operators are covered under s 2(6) of the LGOIMA. If you are choosing to neglect that part of the act, then please respond saying so.
I note that when asked the same question for the trains running red lights, I got a significantly more detailed response (hence the follow up). The lack of response on this kind of implies that the operators Metlink uses do not have any policies on how they deal with law breakers. I would hope that this is something Metlink would follow up on to ensure that the operators are taking safety seriously. The lack of Metlink's ability to do that follow up shows the lack of safety culture that Metlink has, and the notion of Metlink just trying to pass the buck down to the operators then never follow up.
I will note, the red light running issue is still very much present, you have around a hundred (at least) buses running a red light *at one single intersection* a day. This number has not decreased to any statistical significance since Metlink was originally notified of the issue several months ago. After meeting with Metlink, I had thought that you were trying to do the right thing, but after your continued lack of responses about safety concerns, and the lack of results shown from any of your "Red light campaigns", I am starting to go back to my opinion that Metlink simply don't care about safety.
So simply, what are the operators procedures for when a bus driver goes through a red light in the Metlink network. Please do not treat this as a new request, this was originally requested on Dec 13 2018, and was only partially answered to contain Metlink's procedures, while not mentioning the operators procedures. These operators operate under your branding as independent contractors, which is defined in s 2(6) of the LGOIMA, and as such the GWRC holds that information. I have requested this, and is now grossly overdue.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
From: Sam Horsefield
Wellington Regional Council
Dear Hugh,
I have forwarded this email onto the writer of your request.
Yours sincerely,
Sam Horsefield
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From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Sam Horsefield,
Thanks for that. Is there any way I can be sure that this will be different from your exact same response on February 12, 2019? Is there someone else that can better respond rather than sending back to the same person who isn't responding? Noting again that this is grossly overdue.
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
From: Sam Horsefield
Wellington Regional Council
Dear Hugh
This has been escalated to the writer's manager.
Yours sincerely,
Sam Horsefield
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh Davenport <[FYI request #9247 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2019 10:02 AM
To: Sam Horsefield <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Information regarding procedures when a bus runs a red light
Dear Sam Horsefield,
Thanks for that. Is there any way I can be sure that this will be different from your exact same response on February 12, 2019? Is there someone else that can better respond rather than sending back to the same person who isn't responding? Noting again that this is grossly overdue.
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
-----Original Message-----
Dear Hugh,
I have forwarded this email onto the writer of your request.
Yours sincerely,
Sam Horsefield
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From: Margaret Meek
Wellington Regional Council
Hello Hugh
As previously advised to you, we do not consider that operator procedures
for driver behaviour are held by GWRC.
Regards
Margaret
Margaret Meek | Business Advisor
Metlink
T 04 830 4393
L2, 15 Walter St, Te Aro, Wellington 6011 | PO Box 11646, Manners St,
Wellington 6142
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From: [5][FOI #9247 email]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2019 9:08:10 AM
To: "OIA/LGOIMA requests at Wellington Regional Council"
<[6][Wellington Regional Council request email]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Information regarding
procedures when a bus runs a red light
Dear Wellington Regional Council,
Can this please get responded to. I originally asked for procedures for
both Metlink and the operators. The operators are covered under s 2(6) of
the LGOIMA. If you are choosing to neglect that part of the act, then
please respond saying so.
I note that when asked the same question for the trains running red
lights, I got a significantly more detailed response (hence the follow
up). The lack of response on this kind of implies that the operators
Metlink uses do not have any policies on how they deal with law breakers.
I would hope that this is something Metlink would follow up on to ensure
that the operators are taking safety seriously. The lack of Metlink's
ability to do that follow up shows the lack of safety culture that Metlink
has, and the notion of Metlink just trying to pass the buck down to the
operators then never follow up.
I will note, the red light running issue is still very much present, you
have around a hundred (at least) buses running a red light *at one single
intersection* a day. This number has not decreased to any statistical
significance since Metlink was originally notified of the issue several
months ago. After meeting with Metlink, I had thought that you were trying
to do the right thing, but after your continued lack of responses about
safety concerns, and the lack of results shown from any of your "Red light
campaigns", I am starting to go back to my opinion that Metlink simply
don't care about safety.
So simply, what are the operators procedures for when a bus driver goes
through a red light in the Metlink network. Please do not treat this as a
new request, this was originally requested on Dec 13 2018, and was only
partially answered to contain Metlink's procedures, while not mentioning
the operators procedures. These operators operate under your branding as
independent contractors, which is defined in s 2(6) of the LGOIMA, and as
such the GWRC holds that information. I have requested this, and is now
grossly overdue.
Yours faithfully,
Hugh Davenport
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From: Hugh Davenport
Dear Margaret Meek,
Thanks, as discussed have informed Ombudsman about the s 2(6) issue.
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Davenport
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