Applying for overseas pensions

Andrew Riddell made this Official Information request to Ministry of Social Development

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From: Andrew Riddell

Dear Ministry of Social Development,

Please provide a copy of any procedures, policies, manuals, instructions, or similar that are used when (i) ascertaining whether a person will be required to apply for an overseas pension and (ii) ordering a person to apply for an overseas pension.

Please include all amendments to these procedures, policies, manuals, instructions, or similar that have been made since 1 January 2009.

I am a New Zealand citizen resident in New Zealand.

Kia ora,
Andrew Riddell

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Ministry of Social Development

Tēnā koe Andrew Riddell

Thank you for your email received 20 November 2017, under the Official Information Act 1982. Your request has been forwarded to the appropriate officials at National Office to respond. You may expect a decision regarding your request to be sent to you as soon as possible.
 
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Ministry of Social Development

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Riddell [mailto:[FOI #6852 email]]
Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2017 8:42 p.m.
To: OIA_Requests (MSD)
Subject: Official Information request - Applying for overseas pensions

Dear Ministry of Social Development,

Please provide a copy of any procedures, policies, manuals, instructions, or similar that are used when (i) ascertaining whether a person will be required to apply for an overseas pension and (ii) ordering a person to apply for an overseas pension.

Please include all amendments to these procedures, policies, manuals, instructions, or similar that have been made since 1 January 2009.

I am a New Zealand citizen resident in New Zealand.

Kia ora,
Andrew Riddell

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From: Andrew Brady-Clark
Ministry of Social Development

Tēnā koe Mr Riddell,

 

Thank you for your request received 20 November 2017 for information
regarding the requirement to apply for overseas pensions.

 

The requirement to apply for overseas pensions prior to receiving New
Zealand Superannuation is based on section 69G of the Social Security Act.
This legislation is available online here:
[1]http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publi....

 

The approach and procedures to apply section 69G and deductions for
overseas pensions set out in section 70 of the Social Security Act can be
complex and will depend on the various countries people can receive
pensions from. As it stands, your request therefore includes a large
number of documents which would take considerable time and resources to
compile. As such, we would be looking to refuse your request under section
18(f) of the Official Information Act as substantial manual collation
would be required to locate and prepare all documents within scope of your
request.

 

If you wish, we could provide copies of procedural documents regarding the
application of section 69G and section 70 of the Social Security Act.
Alternatively, if you are interested in the requirement to apply for
pensions for a specific country, we may be able to provide you with
information regarding the procedure for clients who may be eligible for
pensions from this country.

 

If you wish to discuss your request further, feel free to call me on 04
916 3047.

 

Kind regards,

 

Andrew Brady-Clark | Ministerial & Executive Services Advisor

Ministerial and Executive Services | Corporate Solutions
Te Manatu Whakahiato Ora | Ministry of Social Development

56 The Terrace | Level 6 | Desk 6.3.08

 

Our Purpose:
Ko ta mātou he whakamana tangata kia tū haumaru, kia tū kaha, kia tū
motuhake

We help New Zealanders to help themselves to be safe, strong and
independent

 

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From: Andrew Riddell

Dear Andrew Brady-Clark,

Thanks for the response.

Please treat my request as being specific to the procedures, etc (as listed in my initial request) as applying to Australia only.

Kia ora,

Andrew Riddell

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From: OIA_Requests (MSD)
Ministry of Social Development

Tēnā koe Mr Riddell,

Thank you for this clarification.

To clarify, you have requested the procedures, policies, instructions or similar to be used when:
Ascertaining whether a person will be required to apply for an Australian pension; and
Ordering a person to apply for an Australian pension.
You have requested that this response includes amendments to these processes and documents that have been made since 1 January 2009.

Please advise if I have misinterpreted your request.

As per section 15 of the Official Information Act, the Ministry will provide you with a decision as soon as possible, and within 20 working days of this clarification.

Kind regards,

Official and Parliamentary Information team   |  Ministerial and Executive Services
Ministry of Social Development

Our Purpose:
We help New Zealanders to help themselves to be safe, strong and independent
Ko ta mātou he whakamana tangata kia tū haumaru, kia tū kaha, kia tū motuhake

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Riddell [mailto:[FOI #6852 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 9:30 a.m.
To: Andrew Brady-Clark
Subject: Re: Information request

Dear Andrew Brady-Clark,

Thanks for the response.

Please treat my request as being specific to the procedures, etc (as listed in my initial request) as applying to Australia only.

Kia ora,

Andrew Riddell

-----Original Message-----

Tēnā koe Mr Riddell,

 

Thank you for your request received 20 November 2017 for information regarding the requirement to apply for overseas pensions.

 

The requirement to apply for overseas pensions prior to receiving New Zealand Superannuation is based on section 69G of the Social Security Act.
This legislation is available online here:
[1]http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publi....

 

The approach and procedures to apply section 69G and deductions for overseas pensions set out in section 70 of the Social Security Act can be complex and will depend on the various countries people can receive pensions from. As it stands, your request therefore includes a large number of documents which would take considerable time and resources to compile. As such, we would be looking to refuse your request under section
18(f) of the Official Information Act as substantial manual collation would be required to locate and prepare all documents within scope of your request.

 

If you wish, we could provide copies of procedural documents regarding the application of section 69G and section 70 of the Social Security Act.
Alternatively, if you are interested in the requirement to apply for pensions for a specific country, we may be able to provide you with information regarding the procedure for clients who may be eligible for pensions from this country.

 

If you wish to discuss your request further, feel free to call me on 04
916 3047.

 

Kind regards,

 

Andrew Brady-Clark | Ministerial & Executive Services Advisor

Ministerial and Executive Services | Corporate Solutions Te Manatu Whakahiato Ora | Ministry of Social Development

56 The Terrace | Level 6 | Desk 6.3.08

 

Our Purpose:
Ko ta mātou he whakamana tangata kia tū haumaru, kia tū kaha, kia tū motuhake

We help New Zealanders to help themselves to be safe, strong and independent

 

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From: Andrew Riddell

Dear OIA_Requests (MSD),

Kia ora.

I confirm that you have correctly summarised my amended request in your letter to me dated 23 November 2017.

Yours sincerely,

Andrew Riddell

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From: Andrew Riddell

Dear OIA_Requests (MSD),

Kia ora.

I confirm that you have correctly summarised my amended request in your letter to me dated 23 November 2017.

Yours sincerely,

Andrew Riddell

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From: OIA_Requests (MSD)
Ministry of Social Development


Attachment 20171218 signed extension letter RIDDELL.pdf
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Tēnā koe Mr Riddell

 

Please find attached an extension letter for your request.

 

Nā mātou noa, nā

 

Official and Parliamentary Information team | Ministerial and Executive
Services

Ministry of Social Development

 

Our Purpose:
We help New Zealanders to help themselves to be safe, strong and
independent
Ko ta mātou he whakamana tangata kia tū haumaru, kia tū kaha, kia tū
motuhake

 

 

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Andrew Riddell left an annotation ()

MSD has extended the deadline within which to respond.

This is a straight forward request for their operating procedures re requiring poeple to apply for the Australian pension.

I am complaining to the Ombudsman about the delay.

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Ministry of Social Development


Attachment 20180207 response RIDDELL.pdf
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Tēnā koe Andrew Riddell,

Please find attached the Ministry’s response to your Official Information Act request.
 
Nā mātou noa, nā

Official and Parliamentary Information team   |  Ministerial and Executive Services
Ministry of Social Development

Our Purpose:
We help New Zealanders to help themselves to be safe, strong and independent
Ko ta mātou he whakamana tangata kia tū haumaru, kia tū kaha, kia tū motuhake

-----Original Message-----
From: OIA_Requests (MSD)
Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2017 1:31 p.m.
To: '[FOI #6852 email]'
Subject: 20171121 Acknowledgement RIDDELL

Tēnā koe Andrew Riddell

Thank you for your email received 20 November 2017, under the Official Information Act 1982. Your request has been forwarded to the appropriate officials at National Office to respond. You may expect a decision regarding your request to be sent to you as soon as possible.
 
Nā mātou noa, nā

Official and Parliamentary Information team   |  Ministerial and Executive Services Ministry of Social Development

Our Purpose:
We help New Zealanders to help themselves to be safe, strong and independent Ko ta mātou he whakamana tangata kia tū haumaru, kia tū kaha, kia tū motuhake

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Riddell [mailto:[FOI #6852 email]]
Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2017 8:42 p.m.
To: OIA_Requests (MSD)
Subject: Official Information request - Applying for overseas pensions

Dear Ministry of Social Development,

Please provide a copy of any procedures, policies, manuals, instructions, or similar that are used when (i) ascertaining whether a person will be required to apply for an overseas pension and (ii) ordering a person to apply for an overseas pension.

Please include all amendments to these procedures, policies, manuals, instructions, or similar that have been made since 1 January 2009.

I am a New Zealand citizen resident in New Zealand.

Kia ora,
Andrew Riddell

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