Auckland Rail Network Questions
Harriet Gale made this Official Information request to KiwiRail
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From: Harriet Gale
Dear KiwiRail,
Hope you are having a good day.
Would it please be possible to be released any relevant information on the following understand if sections would have to be redacted.
1. Why the Waitakere tunnel cannot be used for passenger services anymore?
2. European Train Control System Level 2 for the Auckland Rail Network?
3. Grade separation of junctions on the Auckland Rail Network?
Please let me know if the request is too broad, happy to discuss.
Yours faithfully,
Harriet Gale
From: OCU
KiwiRail
Good afternoon
We acknowledge receipt of the below Official Information Act 1982 request.
Under the Act, KiwiRail has up to 20 working days from the date of
receiving your request to respond. Therefore, you can expect a response
on or before Monday 17 July 2017.
This calculation takes into account KiwiRail receiving your request
outside normal business hours.
We will be in touch with you if it is necessary to clarify any aspect of
your request.
Regards
Official Correspondence Unit
KiwiRail
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From: Harriet Gale
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Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 9:39 AM
To: KiwiRail
Subject: Official Information request - Auckland Rail Network Questions
Dear KiwiRail,
Hope you are having a good day.
Would it please be possible to be released any relevant information on the
following understand if sections would have to be redacted.
1. Why the Waitakere tunnel cannot be used for passenger services anymore?
2. European Train Control System Level 2 for the Auckland Rail Network?
3. Grade separation of junctions on the Auckland Rail Network?
Please let me know if the request is too broad, happy to discuss.
Yours faithfully,
Harriet Gale
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Nigel Jones left an annotation ()
Hi Harriet,
You might also find https://fyi.org.nz/request/5994-informat... useful when they reply as that should return any reports from KR/AT as to the suitability/etc of the tunnel for passenger services (assuming RLB asked for them before making it Local Board policy).
(The linked report in that request also mentions the Waitakere Tunnel, but merely costs, no other description)
From: OCU
KiwiRail
Good afternoon Harriet
Thank you for your email dated 18 June 2017, received by KiwiRail on 19
June 2017, in which you request the following information:
“Would it please be possible to be released any relevant information on
the following understand if sections would have to be redacted.
1. Why the Waitakere tunnel cannot be used for passenger services anymore?
2. European Train Control System Level 2 for the Auckland Rail Network?
3. Grade separation of junctions on the Auckland Rail Network?”
Your request has been considered under the Official Information Act 1982
(the Act).
In response to question 1, the Waitakere Tunnel can be used for passenger
services operated by KiwiRail provided they are pulled by locomotives that
comply with the Semi-Permanent Bulletin 381 (see below).
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Any proposed passenger service (not operated by KiwiRail) would require a
risk assessment to be carried out and that risk assessment would need to
ensure that adequate steps were going to be taken to ensure an appropriate
level of fire safety would be maintained, and this would need to be
approved by the Rail Regulator.
In respect of question 2, we have reviewed your request and found that the
scope is too broad and would result in large research and collation.
Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by
identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically
related to question 2. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is
defined.
In respect of question 3, KiwiRail has done some initial grade separation
concepts for Westfield Junction but it’s not clear whether you are asking
for that, or for information about each junction in the network. If it’s
the latter then the scope is too broad and would result in large research
and collation; if the former we can provide you with some information.
Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by
identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically
related to question 3. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is
defined.
Please advise if you wish to redefine questions 2 and 3. Otherwise, we
will regard these parts of the request as refused under s18(f) of the Act.
Under s28(3) of the Act, you have the right to seek an investigation and
review of this response by way of complaint to the Ombudsman. Refer to
[2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz for more information.
Regards,
Official Correspondence Unit
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From: OCU
Sent: Monday, 19 June 2017 5:14 p.m.
To: [FOI #6014 email]
Subject: Official Information request - Auckland Rail Network Questions
Good afternoon
We acknowledge receipt of the below Official Information Act 1982 request.
Under the Act, KiwiRail has up to 20 working days from the date of
receiving your request to respond. Therefore, you can expect a response
on or before Monday 17 July 2017.
This calculation takes into account KiwiRail receiving your request
outside normal business hours.
We will be in touch with you if it is necessary to clarify any aspect of
your request.
Regards
Official Correspondence Unit
KiwiRail
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-----Original Message-----
From: Harriet Gale
[5][mailto:[FOI #6014 email]]
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 9:39 AM
To: KiwiRail
Subject: Official Information request - Auckland Rail Network Questions
Dear KiwiRail,
Hope you are having a good day.
Would it please be possible to be released any relevant information on the
following understand if sections would have to be redacted.
1. Why the Waitakere tunnel cannot be used for passenger services anymore?
2. European Train Control System Level 2 for the Auckland Rail Network?
3. Grade separation of junctions on the Auckland Rail Network?
Please let me know if the request is too broad, happy to discuss.
Yours faithfully,
Harriet Gale
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From: Harriet Gale
Dear OCU,
Thanks for responding
"In respect of question 2, we have reviewed your request and found that the
scope is too broad and would result in large research and collation.
Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by
identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically
related to question 2. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is
defined."
- Timeframes would be during the procurement period & planning for re-signalling back in 08-09 & 2016 - Present. What I am looking for would be reports on potential estimated cost, pro/cons & feasibility etc of ETCSL2.
In respect of question 3, KiwiRail has done some initial grade separation
concepts for Westfield Junction but it’s not clear whether you are asking
for that, or for information about each junction in the network. If it’s
the latter then the scope is too broad and would result in large research
and collation; if the former we can provide you with some information.
Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by
identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically
related to question 3. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is
defined.
- The former would be great please.
Yours sincerely,
Harriet Gale
From: OCU
KiwiRail
Good afternoon Harriet
Thank you for your email response on 13 July 2017 clarifying your request (from the below email dated 18 June 2017) for the following information:
“Question 2: Timeframes would be during the procurement period & planning for re-signalling back in 08-09 & 2016 - Present. What I am looking for would be reports on potential estimated cost, pro/cons & feasibility etc of ETCSL2.
Question 3: The former [KiwiRail’s initial grade separation concepts for Westfield Junction]”
Your request has been considered under the Official Information Act 1982 (the Act).
In response to question 2, there are no reports comparing Levels 1 and 2 ETCS for use on the Auckland Rail Network. This is because at the time when resignalling was being tendered (2008), Level 1 met the capacity, risk mitigation and other requirements identified as part of that project. In any event, Level 2 was not offered by any tenderer and was not fully developed at the time.
In response to question 3, the attached drawings are concept ideas only of a range of grade separation options for Westfield Junction that have been done for the sole purpose of identifying future rail corridor needs. This work was done to ensure that the proposed East-West road alignment supported a range of future rail alignments.
These drawings are not formal proposals in any way and are not included in any formal planning processes such as ATAP etc.
Under s28(3) of the Act, you have the right to seek an investigation and review of this response by way of complaint to the Ombudsman. Refer to www.ombudsman.parliament.nz for more information.
Regards,
Official Correspondence Unit
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-----Original Message-----
From: Harriet Gale [mailto:[FOI #6014 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2017 10:54 p.m.
To: OCU
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Auckland Rail Network Questions
Dear OCU,
Thanks for responding
"In respect of question 2, we have reviewed your request and found that the scope is too broad and would result in large research and collation.
Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically related to question 2. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is defined."
- Timeframes would be during the procurement period & planning for re-signalling back in 08-09 & 2016 - Present. What I am looking for would be reports on potential estimated cost, pro/cons & feasibility etc of ETCSL2.
In respect of question 3, KiwiRail has done some initial grade separation concepts for Westfield Junction but it’s not clear whether you are asking for that, or for information about each junction in the network. If it’s the latter then the scope is too broad and would result in large research and collation; if the former we can provide you with some information.
Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically related to question 3. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is defined.
- The former would be great please.
Yours sincerely,
Harriet Gale
-----Original Message-----
Good afternoon Harriet
Thank you for your email dated 18 June 2017, received by KiwiRail on 19 June 2017, in which you request the following information:
“Would it please be possible to be released any relevant information on the following understand if sections would have to be redacted.
1. Why the Waitakere tunnel cannot be used for passenger services anymore?
2. European Train Control System Level 2 for the Auckland Rail Network?
3. Grade separation of junctions on the Auckland Rail Network?”
Your request has been considered under the Official Information Act 1982 (the Act).
In response to question 1, the Waitakere Tunnel can be used for passenger services operated by KiwiRail provided they are pulled by locomotives that comply with the Semi-Permanent Bulletin 381 (see below).
[1]Description: cid:image001.jpg@01D2FB11.5FA1A2D0
Any proposed passenger service (not operated by KiwiRail) would require a risk assessment to be carried out and that risk assessment would need to ensure that adequate steps were going to be taken to ensure an appropriate level of fire safety would be maintained, and this would need to be approved by the Rail Regulator.
In respect of question 2, we have reviewed your request and found that the scope is too broad and would result in large research and collation. Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically related to question 2. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is defined.
In respect of question 3, KiwiRail has done some initial grade separation concepts for Westfield Junction but it’s not clear whether you are asking for that, or for information about each junction in the network. If it’s the latter then the scope is too broad and would result in large research and collation; if the former we can provide you with some information. Accordingly, we ask that you redefine the scope, for instance by identifying the particular information you would like that is specifically related to question 3. It would also be helpful if a timeframe is defined.
Please advise if you wish to redefine questions 2 and 3. Otherwise, we will regard these parts of the request as refused under s18(f) of the Act.
Under s28(3) of the Act, you have the right to seek an investigation and review of this response by way of complaint to the Ombudsman. Refer to [2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz for more information.
Regards,
Official Correspondence Unit
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From: OCU
Sent: Monday, 19 June 2017 5:14 p.m.
To: [FOI #6014 email]
Subject: Official Information request - Auckland Rail Network Questions
Good afternoon
We acknowledge receipt of the below Official Information Act 1982 request.
Under the Act, KiwiRail has up to 20 working days from the date of receiving your request to respond. Therefore, you can expect a response on or before Monday 17 July 2017.
This calculation takes into account KiwiRail receiving your request outside normal business hours.
We will be in touch with you if it is necessary to clarify any aspect of your request.
Regards
Official Correspondence Unit
KiwiRail
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Luke C left an annotation ()
You may want to avoid saying that you'd understand if they needed to react information. While it's great to have requested who are understanding, it might give them the invitation to withhold more than is necessary, pursuant to the Act. They might try to withhold more, because you are accommodating.
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