Arthur Edward EGLINTON
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From: Jonothan Cullinane
Dear New Zealand Police,
According to a book on the murders of Jeanette and Harvey Crewe that was published last year (The Crewe Murders, by Kirsty Johnson and James Hollings, Massey University Press 2023): “Based on markings she ["she" being Sharon Fowler, senior forensic scientist at the National Ballistics Intelligence Service of the Greater Manchester Police] observed on the base of the fatal bullets, and comparing them to markings on all the bullets test-fired by the DSIR from the collected rifles, she found two rifles that could have fired the fatal bullets: Arthur Thomas's, and a .22 Browning pump-action rifle belonging to Arthur Eglinton, a Pahiatua farmer, which had somehow been picked up in the police sweep.”
65-odd rifles were checked by police - 64 from within a 5k radius of Pukekawa, and one, belonging to Arthur Eglinton, from Pahiatua, 500k away.
I would like to see any documentation that was gathered in regard to Arthur Eglinton
Yours faithfully,
Jonothan Cullinane
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Jonothan
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request below.
Your reference number is IR-01-24-6644.
You can expect a response to your request on or before 22 March 2024 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi, Michelle
Ministerial Services - Police National Headquarters
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From: Jonothan Cullinane <[FOI #25870 email]>
Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2024 11:07 AM
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Official Information request - Arthur Edward EGLINTON
Dear New Zealand Police,
According to a book on the murders of Jeanette and Harvey Crewe that was published last year (The Crewe Murders, by Kirsty Johnson and James Hollings, Massey University Press 2023): “Based on markings she ["she" being Sharon Fowler, senior forensic scientist at the National Ballistics Intelligence Service of the Greater Manchester Police] observed on the base of the fatal bullets, and comparing them to markings on all the bullets test-fired by the DSIR from the collected rifles, she found two rifles that could have fired the fatal bullets: Arthur Thomas's, and a .22 Browning pump-action rifle belonging to Arthur Eglinton, a Pahiatua farmer, which had somehow been picked up in the police sweep.”
65-odd rifles were checked by police - 64 from within a 5k radius of Pukekawa, and one, belonging to Arthur Eglinton, from Pahiatua, 500k away.
I would like to see any documentation that was gathered in regard to Arthur Eglinton
Yours faithfully,
Jonothan Cullinane
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From: Jonothan Cullinane
Dear Ministerial Services,
Thank you. I kook forward to your response.
Yours sincerely,
Jonothan Cullinane
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
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Tēnā koe Jonothan
Please find attached the response and documentation relating to your
Official Information Act request, received by Police on 25 February 2024.
Please accept our apologies for the delay in providing you with a response
to your request.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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From: Jonothan Cullinane
Dear Ministerial Services,
Arthur Eglinton, a Pahiatua farmer, was the owner of one of only two rifles found by an expert witness in the Crewe Homicide Investigation Report (2014) to have been capable of firing the bullets that killed Harvey and Jeanette Crewe.
One rifle belonged to Arthur Allen Thomas.
The other to Arthur Donald Eglinton.
I am seeking information from the police as to why Arthur Eglinton became part of the investigation.
Of the 65-or-so rifles examined by police, 64 came from within a 5k radius of Pukekawa.
The 65th - Eglinton's - came from Pahiatua.
Harvey Crewe - like Eglinton - grew up in Pahiatua.
The information I have received does not explain why Eglinton was approached in the first place.
Is it possible to supply that information?
Yours sincerely,
Jonothan Cullinane
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Good afternoon Jonothan
I have checked with the team that drafted your response and they have advised that Mr Eglinton was one of a number of registered firearms owners who were approached by Police during the Investigation.
Kind regards,
Lisa
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From: Jonothan Cullinane <[FOI #25870 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2024 9:40 PM
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IR-01-24-6644 - OIA Response
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Dear Ministerial Services,
Arthur Eglinton, a Pahiatua farmer, was the owner of one of only two rifles found by an expert witness in the Crewe Homicide Investigation Report (2014) to have been capable of firing the bullets that killed Harvey and Jeanette Crewe.
One rifle belonged to Arthur Allen Thomas.
The other to Arthur Donald Eglinton.
I am seeking information from the police as to why Arthur Eglinton became part of the investigation.
Of the 65-or-so rifles examined by police, 64 came from within a 5k radius of Pukekawa.
The 65th - Eglinton's - came from Pahiatua.
Harvey Crewe - like Eglinton - grew up in Pahiatua.
The information I have received does not explain why Eglinton was approached in the first place.
Is it possible to supply that information?
Yours sincerely,
Jonothan Cullinane
-----Original Message-----
Tēnā koe Jonothan
Please find attached the response and documentation relating to your Official Information Act request, received by Police on 25 February 2024.
Please accept our apologies for the delay in providing you with a response to your request.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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From: Jonothan Cullinane
Dear Ministerial Services,
I’m curious why a rifle belonging to Arthur Donald Eglinton, of Pahiatua, was examined by police in relation to a double homicide that occured in Pukekawa, several hundred kilometres away.
Of the 65 rifles examined, 64 were from within a 5k radius of the crime scene in Pukekawa, which is toughly between Auckland and Hamilton, and one - Donaldson’s - was from Pahiatua in the Wairarapa. Why was that, does anyone know?
Yours sincerely,
Jonothan Cullinane
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tçnâ koe Jonothan
As mentioned on page 4 of the response documentation you have received, Mr Arthur Eglinton’s name appeared in the Palmerston North Arms Office records.
Ngâ mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
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From: Jonothan Cullinane <[FOI #25870 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2024 4:34 PM
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: IR-01-24-6644 - OIA Response
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Dear Ministerial Services,
I’m curious why a rifle belonging to Arthur Donald Eglinton, of Pahiatua, was examined by police in relation to a double homicide that occured in Pukekawa, several hundred kilometres away.
Of the 65 rifles examined, 64 were from within a 5k radius of the crime scene in Pukekawa, which is toughly between Auckland and Hamilton, and one - Donaldson’s - was from Pahiatua in the Wairarapa. Why was that, does anyone know?
Yours sincerely,
Jonothan Cullinane
-----Original Message-----
Good afternoon Jonothan
I have checked with the team that drafted your response and they have advised that Mr Eglinton was one of a number of registered firearms owners who were approached by Police during the Investigation.
Kind regards,
Lisa
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From: LYNCH, David (Dave)
New Zealand Police
ata märie Mr Cullinane
In respect of the above OIA, retired D/Supt Lovelock has been made aware
that you were wanting to speak to him in relation to this matter. Mr
Lovelock respectfully declines your request to speak to him. Any
information that Mr Lovelock has on the issue is already publicly
available and we would draw your attention specifically to Chapter 8 of
the Crewe Review report and Appendix 8 which cover the subject matter your
inquire about. That material is available on the police website
[1]https://www.police.govt.nz/about-us/publ...
nga mihi nui
Dave Lynch
Detective Superintendent
Director, Financial Crime Group
Police National Headquarters
E: [2][email address]
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