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From: Chris McCashin

Dear Ministry of Health,

Please provide from 2020 - 2023 broken down per month

Total number of woman that passed away during child birth
Whether the infant also passed away
And whether the infant passed during, days after or within twelve months of the birth

Yours faithfully,
Chris

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Tēnā koe Chris 

 

Thank you for your request under the Official Information Act 1982 (the
Act) to Manatū Hauora (the Ministry of Health) on 25 August 2023.

 

Manatū Hauora does not hold any information relating to your request;
however, I have been advised that this information is held by Te Whatu
Ora – Health New Zealand. For this reason, I have decided to transfer your
request to their agency under section 14(b)(i) of the Act. You can expect
a response from Te Whatu Ora in due course.   

 

Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the Ombudsman to
review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
contacted by email at: [1][email address] or by calling 0800
802 602. 

 
 
Ngā mihi
 
OIA Services Team
Manatū Hauora | Ministry of Health
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------------------- Original Message -------------------
From: Chris McCashin <[FOI #23952 email]>;
Received: Fri Aug 25 2023 15:24:43 GMT+1200 (New Zealand Standard Time)
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>; OIA <[email address]>;
Subject: Official Information request - Deaths During Childbirth

Dear Ministry of Health,

Please provide from 2020 - 2023 broken down per month

Total number of woman that passed away during child birth
Whether the infant also passed away
And whether the infant passed during, days after or within twelve months
of the birth

Yours faithfully,
Chris

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Tēnā koe Chris

Thank you for your email of 25 August 2023 to Manatū Hauora (the Ministry
of Health) that was transferred to Te Whatu Ora on 29 August 2023, asking
for the following information under the Official Information Act 1982 (the
Act):

"Please provide from 2020 - 2023 broken down per month
Total number of woman that passed away during child birth
Whether the infant also passed away
And whether the infant passed during, days after or within twelve months
of the birth."
 
This email is to let you know that Te Whatu Ora needs more time to make a
decision on your request.

The Act requires that we advise you of our decision on your request no
later than 20 working days after the day we received your request.
Unfortunately, it will not be possible to meet that time limit and we are
therefore writing to notify you of an extension of the time to make our
decision, to 31 October 2023.

This extension is required because the consultations necessary to make a
decision on your request are such that a proper response cannot reasonably
be made within the original time limit.

If you have any questions, please contact us at [1][email address]

If you are not happy with this extension, you have the right to make a
complaint to the Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available
at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or by phoning 0800 802 602.

Nāku iti noa, nā

Caroline Sides
Senior Ministerial Advisor
 

Te Whatu Ora Ministerial Team
Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand
TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
 

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Kia ora Chris,
 
Thank you for your request for information regarding maternity mortality
data on 25 August 2023. Please find attached our response to your request.
 
If you have any questions, please get in touch at
[1][email address].
 
If you are not happy with this response, you have the right to make a
complaint to the Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available
at [2]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or by phoning 0800 802 602.
 
Ngâ mihi,
 
Caroline Sides
Senior Ministerial Advisor
Te Whatu Ora Ministerial Team
Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand
TeWhatuOra.govt.nz

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From: Chris McCashin

Dear hnzOIA,

Unfortunately this isn't acceptable and appears to be a trend. It doesn't appear that the Ministry isn't able to handle the most basic requests. The majority of request responses are

- always delayed
- links don't work (two links in the response you sent) do not work
- extra consultations are required / extensions are required
- and then the information you provide is fill of gaps, poor, misleading, incomplete, false, hidden

If you can't handle the most basis OIA requests how can you be trusted with the health of New Zealanders. The data I have requested is basic - I require no causes of deaths.

All I want are the numbers through the years that died during childbirth - given we are a first world country I don't expect there to be many. Now I require hnz to do this properly without delay.

I am aware that there are delays with the Coroner who also appear to be unable to do their job properly, but this isn't a surprise given the massive deviation in the excess death numbers as the unexplained death numbers continue to tick up.

Yours sincerely,

Chris McCashin

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Tēnā koe, 

 

Thank you for contacting Te Whatu Ora, Health NZ. This is an automatic
reply to confirm that we have received your email.  Depending on the
nature of your request you may not receive a response for up to 20 working
days.  We will try to respond to your query as quickly as possible.

 

 

Ngā mihi

 

Te Whatu Ora, Health NZ.

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Dear hnzOIA,

Please provide the information I have requested which is now overdue.

Yours sincerely,

Chris McCashin

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Kia ora Chris
 
Thank you for your email dated 1 November advising that the links provided
in our response to you were not accessible.
 
Please find the links below:
 
[1]https://www.tewhatuora.govt.nz/our-healt...
 
[2]https://www.hqsc.govt.nz/resources/resou...
 
We are currently reviewing our response to your previous request under the
Official Information Act 1982 to assess whether there is information which
may satisfy your request.  You can expect a response shortly.
 
Ngā mihi
 
 
Caroline Sides
Senior Ministerial Advisor
 
Te Whatu Ora Ministerial Team

Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand
TeWhatuOra.govt.nz

 
 
 
------------------- Original Message -------------------
From: Chris McCashin <[FOI #23952 email]>;
Received: Wed Nov 01 2023 10:20:31 GMT+1300 (New Zealand Daylight Time)
To: hnzOIA <[email address]>; HNZ OIA <[email address]>;
Subject: Re: Response to your request for information HNZ00028956
CRM:0401093

Dear hnzOIA,

Unfortunately this isn't acceptable and appears to be a trend.  It doesn't
appear that the Ministry isn't able to handle the most basic requests. 
The majority of request responses are

- always delayed
- links don't work (two links in the response you sent) do not work
- extra consultations are required / extensions are required
- and then the information you provide is fill of gaps, poor, misleading,
incomplete, false, hidden

If you can't handle the most basis OIA requests how can you be trusted
with the health of New Zealanders.  The data I have requested is basic - I
require no causes of deaths.

All I want are the numbers through the years that died during childbirth -
given we are a first world country I don't expect there to be many.  Now I
require hnz to do this properly without delay.

I am aware that there are delays with the Coroner who also appear to be
unable to do their job properly, but this isn't a surprise given the
massive deviation in the excess death numbers as the unexplained death
numbers continue to tick up.

Yours sincerely,

Chris McCashin

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Chris,
  
 Thank you for your request for information regarding maternity mortality
 data on 25 August 2023. Please find attached our response to your
request.
  
 If you have any questions, please get in touch at
 [1][email address].
  
 If you are not happy with this response, you have the right to make a
 complaint to the Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available
 at [2]https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlo...
or by phoning 0800 802 602.
  
 Ngâ mihi,
  
 Caroline Sides
 Senior Ministerial Advisor
 Te Whatu Ora Ministerial Team
 Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand
 TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
 
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Kia ora Chris
 
Thank you for your request of 1 November 2023 for information regarding
the number of women who died during childbirth.
 
Under section 14(2)(d) of the [1]Coroners Act 2006, any death of a woman
during childbirth must be reported to the coroner. 
 
Your request asks for information which Te Whatu Ora considers is more
closely aligned with the functions of Ministry of Justice - Coronial
Services.  For this reason, Te Whatu Ora has decided to transfer your
request in full to Ministry of Justice under section 14(b)(ii) of the
Act.  You can expect a response from Ministry of Justice in due course.
 
Under section 28(3) of the Act you have the right to ask the Ombudsman
to review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
contacted by email at: [2][email address] or by calling 0800
802 602. If you have any queries related to this request, please do not
hesitate to get in touch.  
 
Ngā mihi  
 
Caroline Sides
Senior Ministerial Advisor
Te Whatu Ora Ministerial Team
Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand
TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
 
------------------- Original Message -------------------
From: Chris McCashin <[FOI #23952 email]>;
Received: Wed Nov 01 2023 10:20:31 GMT+1300 (New Zealand Daylight Time)
To: hnzOIA <[email address]>; HNZ OIA <[email address]>;
Subject: Re: Response to your request for information HNZ00028956
CRM:0401093

Dear hnzOIA,

Unfortunately this isn't acceptable and appears to be a trend.  It doesn't
appear that the Ministry isn't able to handle the most basic requests. 
The majority of request responses are

- always delayed
- links don't work (two links in the response you sent) do not work
- extra consultations are required / extensions are required
- and then the information you provide is fill of gaps, poor, misleading,
incomplete, false, hidden

If you can't handle the most basis OIA requests how can you be trusted
with the health of New Zealanders.  The data I have requested is basic - I
require no causes of deaths.

All I want are the numbers through the years that died during childbirth -
given we are a first world country I don't expect there to be many.  Now I
require hnz to do this properly without delay.

I am aware that there are delays with the Coroner who also appear to be
unable to do their job properly, but this isn't a surprise given the
massive deviation in the excess death numbers as the unexplained death
numbers continue to tick up.

Yours sincerely,

Chris McCashin

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Chris,
  
 Thank you for your request for information regarding maternity mortality
 data on 25 August 2023. Please find attached our response to your
request.
  
 If you have any questions, please get in touch at
 [1][email address].
  
 If you are not happy with this response, you have the right to make a
 complaint to the Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available
 at [2]https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlo...
or by phoning 0800 802 602.
  
 Ngâ mihi,
  
 Caroline Sides
 Senior Ministerial Advisor
 Te Whatu Ora Ministerial Team
 Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand
 TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
 
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Kia ora/Môrena 

 

Your request for information related to deaths of women during childbirth,
has been transferred to Ministry of Justice by the Ministry of Health. 

 

We acknowledge receipt of your request.

 

This has been forwarded onto the relevant business unit to respond to. 

 

The Ministry of Justice may publish the response to your request on our
website, you can expect that if your OIA is to be published that this will
take place at least 10 working days after it has been sent you. Your name
and any other personal information will be withheld under Section 9(2)(a)
(protect the privacy of natural persons). 

 

You can expect a response by 18/01/2023. This response date takes into
account the OIA summer holidays which are between 25 December 2023 – 15
January 2024 

 

Ngâ mihi, 

   

Ministerial Relations and Services

Governance and Assurance

Justice Centre I Aitken Street

DX Box SX 10088 I Wellington

[1]www.justice.govt.nz

 

 

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Kia ora Chris

 

Please find attached a response to your query regarding deaths during
childbirth.

 

Ngā mihi  

Annie  

   

   

[1]Description: Annie May
http://justice.govt.nz/courts/shared/jus...
Senior
Advisor (Communications)

Ph: 027 291 7573

[2]www.justice.govt.nz

 

 

 

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