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New Covid Death Reporting - Does the same standard apply to vaccines?

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From: Chris McCashin

Dear Ministry of Health,

Please provide any and all decision making, reporting, recommendations, correspondence as to why the Ministry of Health is now changing the way Covid-19 deaths are recorded. All of the names and persons involved and the justification for it. As I understand it the deaths will be broken into three categories.

Those where it is clear that Covid-19 was the cause of death
Those who had (or were subsequently found to have) Covid-19 when they died, but their cause of death was clearly not Covid-19 related
And those who cause of death was still being investigated – such as it is being reviewed by the Coroner – but it is known that they had Covid-19 when they died.

Can you also please provide the vaccine deaths in a similar format.

Those where it is clear that the vaccine was the death.
Those who had (or were subsequently found to have) had the vaccine when they died, but their cause of death was not vaccine related or there is a question mark (think we are in excess of 2,000 within 21 days of vaccine - can you please provide the COD for these people plus the 137 people who died but it was never the vaccine)
And those whose cause of death was still being investigated
Ultimately can you provide in a similar format the summary of reported deaths from the vaccine and the observed versus expected deaths within 21 days of vaccine similar to how you will do this for the virus.

The Medsafe reports also state that there was not enough information to assess 64 deaths from the vaccine. What is the cause of death and where are these deaths being recorded.

Yours faithfully,
Chris

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Dear Ministry of Health,

Can you please also provide all of the people that have died from Covid-19 since the vaccine roll out and provide their vaccination status.

As a scenario can the MOH please consider the following.

Pfizers latest report stated 4.6% of people that obtained the vaccine as a serious side effect developed Covid-19

How does the Ministry of Health determine how the person transmitted the virus. For example

- Any unlinked cases, are these in vaccinated given Covid is a vaccine side effect

Yours faithfully,

Chris McCashin

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Kia ora Chris,

 

Thank you for your request for official information received on 11 March
for:

 

"Please provide any and all decision making, reporting, recommendations,
correspondence as to why the Ministry of Health is now changing the way
Covid-19 deaths are recorded.  All of the names and persons involved and
the justification for it.  As I understand it the deaths will be broken
into three categories.  

 

Those where it is clear that Covid-19 was the cause of death Those who had
(or were subsequently found to have) Covid-19 when they died, but their
cause of death was clearly not Covid-19 related And those who cause of
death was still being investigated – such as it is being reviewed by the
Coroner – but it is known that they had Covid-19 when they died.

 

Can you also please provide the vaccine deaths in a similar format.

 

Those where it is clear that the vaccine was the death.

Those who had (or were subsequently found to have) had the vaccine when
they died, but their cause of death was not vaccine related or there is a
question mark (think we are in excess of 2,000 within 21 days of vaccine -
can you please provide the COD for these people plus the 137 people who
died but it was never the vaccine) And those whose cause of death was
still being investigated Ultimately can you provide in a similar format
the summary of reported deaths from the vaccine and the observed versus
expected deaths within 21 days of vaccine similar to how you will do this
for the virus.

 

The Medsafe reports also state that there was not enough information to
assess 64 deaths from the vaccine.  What is the cause of death and where
are these deaths being recorded.”

 

A secondary request for official information was received on 11 March 2022
for:

 

“Can you please also provide all of the people that have died from
Covid-19 since the vaccine roll out and provide their vaccination status.

 

As a scenario can the MOH please consider the following.

 

Pfizers latest report stated 4.6% of people that obtained the vaccine as a
serious side effect developed Covid-19

 

How does the Ministry of Health determine how the person transmitted the
virus.  For example

 

- Any unlinked cases, are these in vaccinated given Covid is a vaccine
side effect”

 

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Ngâ mihi

 

OIA Services

Government Services

Office of the Director-General

Ministry of Health

E: [1][email address]

 

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Kia ora Chris

Thank you for your request for official information, received on 11 March
2022 requesting:

Please provide any and all decision making, reporting, recommendations,
correspondence as to why the Ministry of Health is now changing the way
Covid-19 deaths are recorded. All of the names and persons involved and
the justification for it. 

As I understand it the deaths will be broken into three categories. Those
where it is clear that Covid-19 was the cause of death Those who had (or
were subsequently found to have) Covid-19 when they died, but their cause
of death was clearly not Covid-19 related And those who cause of death was
still being investigated – such as it is being reviewed by the Coroner –
but it is known that they had Covid-19 when they died. Can you also please
provide the vaccine deaths in a similar format. Those where it is clear
that the vaccine was the death. Those who had (or were subsequently found
to have) had the vaccine when they died, but their cause of death was not
vaccine related or there is a question mark (think we are in excess of
2,000 within 21 days of vaccine - can you please provide the COD for these
people plus the 137 people who died but it was never the vaccine) And
those whose cause of death was still being investigated Ultimately can you
provide in a similar format the summary of reported deaths from the
vaccine and the observed versus expected deaths within 21 days of vaccine
similar to how you will do this for the virus.

Can you please also provide all of the people that have died from Covid-19
since the vaccine roll out and provide their vaccination status. As a
scenario can the MOH please consider the following. Pfizers latest report
stated 4.6% of people that obtained the vaccine as a serious side effect
developed Covid-19.

How does the Ministry of Health determine how the person transmitted the
virus?  For example, any unlinked cases, are these in vaccinated given
Covid is a vaccine side effect.

The Medsafe reports also state that there was not enough information to
assess 64 deaths from the vaccine.  What is the cause of death and where
are these deaths being recorded?

 

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Ngâ mihi

 

OIA Services Team

 

[1]Ministry of Health information releases

[2]Unite against COVID-19

 

 

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Kia ora Chris,
Please find attached a response to your official information act request

Ngā mihi

 

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[1]Ministry of Health information releases

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From: Chris McCashin

Dear OIA Requests,

Thank-you for this response. The documents that you provided information in them was redacted due to this being "out of scope". Please un-redact this information and provide this in full. To reclarify my request please provide the following

27 January 2022 Memo: Adapting COVID-19 Surveillance, Intelligence and Contact Tracing Reporting and Data Management for Omicron.

15 February 2022 Memo: COVID-19 Reporting: Phase 2 of the Omicron Strategy

18 March 2022 Memo: COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rate and Mortality Data

You also stated that "Misinformation" is in the public sphere?

Can the Ministry of Health please provide the definition of "Misinformation"

Would a verified Pfizer document be classed as misinformation? - their own document states that

Adverse Events Reported > 2% of cases - Infestations and Infections - COVID-19

Covid-19 as per Pfizer's own reporting has been documented as being a adverse reaction to the vaccine. What part of this information is not understood by the Ministry of Health?

How can you say this is misinformation when it comes from their documents?

Yours sincerely,

Chris McCashin

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Kia ora Chris ,

Thank you for your request for official information. The Ministry's
reference number for your request is: H202205723. 

 

As required under the Official Information Act 1982, the Ministry will
endeavour to respond to your request no later than 20 working days after
the day your request was received. If you'd like to calculate the
timeframe, you can use the Ombudsman's online calculator
here: [1]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/  

 

Due to the COVID-19 global pandemic response, the Ministry is experiencing
significantly higher volumes of queries and requests for information. If
we are unable to respond to your request within this time frame, we will
notify you of an extension of that time frame. 

 

If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to
get in touch. 

Ngā mihi

 

OIA Services Team

 

[2]Ministry of Health information releases

[3]Unite against COVID-19

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From: Chris McCashin <[FOI #18841 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2022 12:48
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Response to your official information act request (ref.
H202203833)
 
Dear OIA Requests,

Thank-you for this response.  The documents that you provided information
in them was redacted due to this being "out of scope".  Please un-redact
this information and provide this in full.  To reclarify my request please
provide the following

27 January 2022 Memo: Adapting COVID-19 Surveillance, Intelligence and
Contact Tracing Reporting and Data Management for Omicron.

15 February 2022 Memo: COVID-19 Reporting: Phase 2 of the Omicron Strategy

18 March 2022 Memo: COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rate and Mortality Data

You also stated that "Misinformation" is in the public sphere?

Can the Ministry of Health please provide the definition of
"Misinformation"

Would a verified Pfizer document be classed as misinformation? - their own
document states that

Adverse Events Reported > 2% of cases - Infestations and Infections -
COVID-19

Covid-19 as per Pfizer's own reporting has been documented as being a
adverse reaction to the vaccine.  What part of this information is not
understood by the Ministry of Health?

How can you say this is misinformation when it comes from their documents?

Yours sincerely,

Chris McCashin

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