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Kia ora

On behalf of Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall, Associate Minister of Health, thank you for your Official Information request of 15 December 2021:

" Given the experimental gene therapy/vaccine does not prevent a person from getting Covid-19 or transmitting the virus please provide any and all documentation that confirms how

The Ministry of Health determine if the gene therapy is doing anything?
How does the Ministry of Health measure the results of this gene therapy?
What are the measurable benefits of this gene therapy and how are these determined?

The costs of the gene therapy are easily determined with over 130,000 reactions including death, abortion, heart conditions, potential future fertility problems for the innocent, strokes, paralysis. Please note vaccine adverse reactions are normally under reported by a multiple of four so I expect these numbers to be significantly higher. These are also short term so the long term could be even worse. There could be millions of people in New Zealand with long term health problems including our most vulnerable.

Please provide all benefits of this gene therapy and how they have been measured?".

The information requested appears to be more closely associated with the functions and responsibilities of the Minister for the COVID-19 Response. Accordingly I am transferring your request to the Minister for the COVID-19 Response under section 14(b)(ii) of the Official Information Act 1982.

You have the right, under section 28 of the Act, to ask the Ombudsman to review this decision to transfer your request for information.

Ngā mihi

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Schooner [mailto:[FOI #17965 email]]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 4:14 PM
To: A Verrall (MIN) <[Ayesha Verrall request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Quantifiable Benefits of the Gene Therapy

Dear Ayesha Verrall,

Given the experimental gene therapy/vaccine does not prevent a person from getting Covid-19 or transmitting the virus please provide any and all documentation that confirms how

The Ministry of Health determine if the gene therapy is doing anything?
How does the Ministry of Health measure the results of this gene therapy?
What are the measurable benefits of this gene therapy and how are these determined?

The costs of the gene therapy are easily determined with over 130,000 reactions including death, abortion, heart conditions, potential future fertility problems for the innocent, strokes, paralysis. Please note vaccine adverse reactions are normally under reported by a multiple of four so I expect these numbers to be significantly higher. These are also short term so the long term could be even worse. There could be millions of people in New Zealand with long term health problems including our most vulnerable.

Please provide all benefits of this gene therapy and how they have been measured?

Yours faithfully,

Chuck Schooner

cc - Jacinder Ardern, Chris Hipkins, Ashley Bloomfield

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Kia ora Chuck

Thank you for your email seeking an update on your request on 15 December 2021 to Associate Minister of Health, Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall, under the Official Information Act 1982 (the Act).

As our office advised on 17 December 2021 (see below), this request was transferred to Minister for COVID-19 Response, Hon Chris Hipkins, for reply as it was considered his office was best placed to respond to your request. I am advised that subsequently, Mr Hipkins' office transferred your request to the Ministry of Health on 20 December 2021, to which you had also made the same request. I am also advised that the Ministry is handling your request and will respond in due course.

As previously advised, you have the right, under section 28 of the Act, to ask the Ombudsman to review this decision to transfer your request for information.

Nga mihi,

Rebecca Anderson (she/her)

Private Secretary (Executive Support) | Office of Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall

Minister for Seniors | Minister for Food Safety | Associate Minister of Health |
Associate Minister for Research, Science and Innovation

Phone: 04 817 8733
Email: [Ayesha Verrall request email] Website: www.Beehive,govt.nz
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Schooner [mailto:[FOI #17965 email]]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2022 2:59 PM
To: A Verrall (MIN) <[Ayesha Verrall request email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Quantifiable Benefits of the Gene Therapy

Dear A Verrall (MIN),

I also a require a response from you. As Associate Minister of Health this is also in your remit so please respond.

The "Costs" of this gene therapy are likely to fall onto the NZ Taxpayer so your response is also required. I will rephrase.

Please provide

Benefits of Gene Therapy on the Overall Health of New Zealanders Please provide a "forecast" of monetary and social costs on the New Zealand Health system given the large number of side effects to date.

Are you expecting thousands of dependants due to ill health from the experimental gene therapy in twelve months or so?

Yours sincerely,

Chuck Schooner

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Kia ora

On behalf of Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall, Associate Minister of Health, thank you for your Official Information request of 15 December 2021:

" Given the experimental gene therapy/vaccine does not prevent a person from getting Covid-19 or transmitting the virus please provide any and all documentation that confirms how

The Ministry of Health determine if the gene therapy is doing anything?
How does the Ministry of Health measure the results of this gene therapy?
What are the measurable benefits of this gene therapy and how are these determined?

The costs of the gene therapy are easily determined with over 130,000 reactions including death, abortion, heart conditions, potential future fertility problems for the innocent, strokes, paralysis. Please note vaccine adverse reactions are normally under reported by a multiple of four so I expect these numbers to be significantly higher. These are also short term so the long term could be even worse. There could be millions of people in New Zealand with long term health problems including our most vulnerable.

Please provide all benefits of this gene therapy and how they have been measured?".

The information requested appears to be more closely associated with the functions and responsibilities of the Minister for the COVID-19 Response. Accordingly I am transferring your request to the Minister for the COVID-19 Response under section 14(b)(ii) of the Official Information Act 1982.

You have the right, under section 28 of the Act, to ask the Ombudsman to review this decision to transfer your request for information.

Ngā mihi

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Kia ora Chuck,

As the COVID-19 vaccination falls under the responsibility of the Minister for the COVID-19 Response, his office is still best placed to answer this question.

If you have questions about the broader health sector, these are generally best directed to Minister Little, the Minister of Health.

You can read a list of Minister Verrall's delegations as Associate Minister of Health at this link: https://dpmc.govt.nz/our-business-units/...

Kind regards,

Rebecca Anderson (she/her)

Private Secretary (Executive Support) | Office of Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall

Minister for Seniors | Minister for Food Safety | Associate Minister of Health |
Associate Minister for Research, Science and Innovation

Phone: 04 817 8733
Email: [Ayesha Verrall request email] Website: www.Beehive,govt.nz
Private Bag 18041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand

Authorised by Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall, Parliament Buildings, Wellington

Disclaimer: The information in this email (including attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this email, please notify the author by replying to this email and destroy the message. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful.
Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’ portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list: date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Schooner [mailto:[FOI #17965 email]]
Sent: Friday, 14 January 2022 11:30 AM
To: A Verrall (MIN) <[Ayesha Verrall request email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Quantifiable Benefits of the Gene Therapy

Dear A Verrall (MIN),

I also require a response from you being associate Minister of Health so this is in your remit. The numerous costs are like to be burdens on the health sector so a response would be appreciated.

Yours sincerely,

Chuck Schooner

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora Chuck

Thank you for your email seeking an update on your request on 15 December 2021 to Associate Minister of Health, Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall, under the Official Information Act 1982 (the Act).

As our office advised on 17 December 2021 (see below), this request was transferred to Minister for COVID-19 Response, Hon Chris Hipkins, for reply as it was considered his office was best placed to respond to your request. I am advised that subsequently, Mr Hipkins' office transferred your request to the Ministry of Health on 20 December 2021, to which you had also made the same request. I am also advised that the Ministry is handling your request and will respond in due course.

As previously advised, you have the right, under section 28 of the Act, to ask the Ombudsman to review this decision to transfer your request for information.

Nga mihi,

Rebecca Anderson (she/her)

Private Secretary (Executive Support) | Office of Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall

Minister for Seniors | Minister for Food Safety | Associate Minister of Health | Associate Minister for Research, Science and Innovation

Phone: 04 817 8733
Email: [Ayesha Verrall request email] Website: www.Beehive,govt.nz Private Bag 18041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand

Authorised by Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall, Parliament Buildings, Wellington

Disclaimer: The information in this email (including attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this email, please notify the author by replying to this email and destroy the message. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful.
Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’ portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list: date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

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