Re: OIA 105927 please provide the URL for access to IRT (Information Request Tool)
Tom Atkinson made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
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From: Tom Atkinson
Dear New Zealand Police,
Re: OIA 105927 please provide the URL for access to IRT (Information Request Tool)
I note the DNS lookup for svbpmps.police.govt.nz fails. I assume the tool domain has been renamed to something much more memorable, however, I also see DNS fails on the obvious irt.police.govt.nz as well as info, tool, infotool, and inforeqtool.poice.govt.nz etc.
What is the correct domain or URL for Police to access the IRT please?
Reason: I understand that the tool is not intended to be available to me; but I understand the NZ Police are (for the purpose of upholding the law efficiently and quickly) thought to be able to access the tool from any machine in NZ, and since I also wish for the Police to have the right tools to do their jobs, wish this to be true, sans-VPN on an unmodified web browser, such as Firefox or Konqueror.
Perhaps not using a VPN is outdated and the tool now requires access from within a firewall? If this is the case then I would like to know if true. I assume this VPN is loaded onto all Police mobile phones and computers is that true?
Since I could probably eventually discover the domain myself by performing a long-running brute-force discovery attack against police.govt.nz and the ns1.police.govt.nz name servers consider the domain or IP address to be "public information" and available to me, and not unnecessarily obfuscated from me, and definitely not hidden from me, is that true?
Finally, is there any API for public access to unit level rea-time or frequently updated data regarding Missing Children?
Thanks in advance, Tom.
PS The "Missing Children API" subject of my final question is touched upon on this Stack Overflow that I posted: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7915... so you can see that I am aware that it may be INTERPOL who is the holder of the information, and while INTERPOL is not a part of the NZ government, I would assume the NZ Police have a section that interfaces with INTERPOL and therefore, this police section could be the a potential holder of requests about missing children that are not citizens of NZ but that are suspected to have been trafficked here, or are relevant to this request (final question about Missing Children API) in some way, and thus included in my OIA.
I am seeking to create an animated visualisation of missing children data.
Yours faithfully,
Tom Atkinson
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 request below, received by Police on 3 November 2024.
Your reference number is IR-01-24-39583.
You can expect a response to your request on or before 29 November 2024 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Atkinson <[FOI #29035 email]>
Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 9:38 PM
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Official Information request - Re: OIA 105927 please provide the URL for access to IRT (Information Request Tool)
CAUTION: This email originated from outside the New Zealand Police Network. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and are assured that the content is safe.
Dear New Zealand Police,
Re: OIA 105927 please provide the URL for access to IRT (Information Request Tool)
I note the DNS lookup for svbpmps.police.govt.nz fails. I assume the tool domain has been renamed to something much more memorable, however, I also see DNS fails on the obvious irt.police.govt.nz as well as info, tool, infotool, and inforeqtool.poice.govt.nz etc.
What is the correct domain or URL for Police to access the IRT please?
Reason: I understand that the tool is not intended to be available to me; but I understand the NZ Police are (for the purpose of upholding the law efficiently and quickly) thought to be able to access the tool from any machine in NZ, and since I also wish for the Police to have the right tools to do their jobs, wish this to be true, sans-VPN on an unmodified web browser, such as Firefox or Konqueror.
Perhaps not using a VPN is outdated and the tool now requires access from within a firewall? If this is the case then I would like to know if true. I assume this VPN is loaded onto all Police mobile phones and computers is that true?
Since I could probably eventually discover the domain myself by performing a long-running brute-force discovery attack against police.govt.nz and the ns1.police.govt.nz name servers consider the domain or IP address to be "public information" and available to me, and not unnecessarily obfuscated from me, and definitely not hidden from me, is that true?
Finally, is there any API for public access to unit level rea-time or frequently updated data regarding Missing Children?
Thanks in advance, Tom.
PS The "Missing Children API" subject of my final question is touched upon on this Stack Overflow that I posted: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7915... so you can see that I am aware that it may be INTERPOL who is the holder of the information, and while INTERPOL is not a part of the NZ government, I would assume the NZ Police have a section that interfaces with INTERPOL and therefore, this police section could be the a potential holder of requests about missing children that are not citizens of NZ but that are suspected to have been trafficked here, or are relevant to this request (final question about Missing Children API) in some way, and thus included in my OIA.
I am seeking to create an animated visualisation of missing children data.
Yours faithfully,
Tom Atkinson
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From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Kia ora Tom,
I refer to your request of 2 November 2024 as per the below email.
I have been asked to advise you that Police requires an extension of time in which to respond to your request, pursuant to section 15A(1) of the Official Information Act 1982 (OIA). Specifically, section 15A(1)(b), consultations necessary to make a decision on the request are such that a proper response to the request cannot reasonably be made within the original time limit.
Police requires until 13 December 2024 to provide a substantive response to your request, however we are endeavouring to provide this to you as soon as possible.
You have the right, under section 28(3) of the OIA, to make a complaint to an Ombudsman about this extension. If you wish to discuss any aspect of your request with us, including this decision, please feel free to contact [email address]
Kind regards, Courtenay
Senior Advisor - Ministerial Services Police National Headquarters
-----Original Message-----
From: Ministerial Services
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 1:45 PM
To: Tom Atkinson <[FOI #29035 email]>
Subject: Acknowledgement of your OIA request, IR-01-24-39583
Tēnā koe
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 request below, received by Police on 3 November 2024.
Your reference number is IR-01-24-39583.
You can expect a response to your request on or before 29 November 2024 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Atkinson <[FOI #29035 email]>
Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 9:38 PM
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Official Information request - Re: OIA 105927 please provide the URL for access to IRT (Information Request Tool)
CAUTION: This email originated from outside the New Zealand Police Network. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and are assured that the content is safe.
Dear New Zealand Police,
Re: OIA 105927 please provide the URL for access to IRT (Information Request Tool)
I note the DNS lookup for svbpmps.police.govt.nz fails. I assume the tool domain has been renamed to something much more memorable, however, I also see DNS fails on the obvious irt.police.govt.nz as well as info, tool, infotool, and inforeqtool.poice.govt.nz etc.
What is the correct domain or URL for Police to access the IRT please?
Reason: I understand that the tool is not intended to be available to me; but I understand the NZ Police are (for the purpose of upholding the law efficiently and quickly) thought to be able to access the tool from any machine in NZ, and since I also wish for the Police to have the right tools to do their jobs, wish this to be true, sans-VPN on an unmodified web browser, such as Firefox or Konqueror.
Perhaps not using a VPN is outdated and the tool now requires access from within a firewall? If this is the case then I would like to know if true. I assume this VPN is loaded onto all Police mobile phones and computers is that true?
Since I could probably eventually discover the domain myself by performing a long-running brute-force discovery attack against police.govt.nz and the ns1.police.govt.nz name servers consider the domain or IP address to be "public information" and available to me, and not unnecessarily obfuscated from me, and definitely not hidden from me, is that true?
Finally, is there any API for public access to unit level rea-time or frequently updated data regarding Missing Children?
Thanks in advance, Tom.
PS The "Missing Children API" subject of my final question is touched upon on this Stack Overflow that I posted: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7915... so you can see that I am aware that it may be INTERPOL who is the holder of the information, and while INTERPOL is not a part of the NZ government, I would assume the NZ Police have a section that interfaces with INTERPOL and therefore, this police section could be the a potential holder of requests about missing children that are not citizens of NZ but that are suspected to have been trafficked here, or are relevant to this request (final question about Missing Children API) in some way, and thus included in my OIA.
I am seeking to create an animated visualisation of missing children data.
Yours faithfully,
Tom Atkinson
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This is an Official Information request made via the FYI website.
Please use this email address for all replies to this request:
[FOI #29035 email]
Is [New Zealand Police request email] the wrong address for Official Information requests to New Zealand Police? If so, please contact us using this form:
https://fyi.org.nz/change_request/new?bo...
Disclaimer: This message and any reply that you make will be published on the internet. Our privacy and copyright policies:
https://fyi.org.nz/help/officers
If you find this service useful as an Official Information officer, please ask your web manager to link to us from your organisation's OIA or LGOIMA page.
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WARNING
The information contained in this email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information. It may also be subject to the provisions of section 50 of the Policing Act 2008, which creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police property. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this message in error, you must not peruse, use, distribute or copy this message or any of its contents. Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect those of the New Zealand Police. If you have received this message in error, please email or telephone the sender immediately
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