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-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley Bannerman <[FOI #27142 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 4:44 PM
To: Information [DPMC] <[DPMC request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - St Edward’s Crown on the King's Service Order

Dear Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet,

In 2022, following the release of the cypher of King Charles III, I made a request for information on the future use of the Tudor Crown in the New Zealand coat of arms, insignia, etc. Your reply stated that:

"No consideration has yet been given to the issue of King Charles III’s cypher and any possible effect on the New Zealand Coat of Arms or other forms (honours insignia or other representations). This will be considered by the Prime Minister at a later date."

I note that at the 2024 King's Birthday Honours, the Queen's service order was renamed as the King's Service Order and that the depiction of Queen Elizabeth II on the insignia was replaced with one of King Charles III. The depiction of the crown, however, remains as that of the St Edward’s Crown.

Does this mean that a decision has now been made to retain St Edward’s Crown as the primary depiction of the crown on New Zealand insignia (honours, uniforms, etc)?

If not, was changing the crown considered during the redesign of the King's Service Order and why was it decided to retain the depiction of St Edward’s Crown?

Finally, what decisions have been made regarding the use of King's Charles III's cypher and the depiction of the crown in New Zealand? (For example, I note that the executive council chambers now use the CiiiR cypher and Tudor crown, but I have not seen this in any other government department and appears inconsistent with the King's Service Order)

Yours faithfully,

Stanley Bannerman

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Kia ora Stanley

 

Thank you for your email of 5 June 2024 seeking updated information about
the use of the St Edward’s Crown by the New Zealand Government.

 

In July 1956 the late Queen Elizabeth II approved a heraldic
representation of the St Edward’s Crown for New Zealand on a revised New
Zealand Coat of Arms.  The St Edward’s Crown symbolises the Sovereign in
right of New Zealand and is used in their Coronation ceremony. The St
Edward’s Crown appears on official New Zealand badges, Royal New Zealand
honours and rank insignia. The Tudor Crown, with or without the Royal
Cypher, is sometimes also used to personally represent King Charles III
such as on a military King’s Colour.

 

New Zealand continues to formally represent the Sovereign in right of New
Zealand with the use of St Edward’s Crown. Therefore, its use remains
unchanged unless the object/use is specific to King Charles III. In these
instances a Tudor Crown may be appropriate.

 

Following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on 8 September 2022, the title
of the Queen’s Service Order and associated Medal was reviewed. On 29 May
2023, the former Prime Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed that the Queen’s
Service Order and its associated medal the Queen’s Service Medal would be
renamed in honour of King Charles III. The designs of both the Badge of a
Companion of the King’s Service Order and the King’s Service Medal
incorporate a new effigy of King Charles III, but in line with his role as
Sovereign in right of New Zealand, retain the St Edward’s Crown.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley Bannerman
<[1][FOI #27142 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 4:44 PM
To: Information [DPMC] <[2][DPMC request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - St Edward’s Crown on the King's
Service Order

 

Dear Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet,

 

In 2022, following the release of the cypher of King Charles III, I made a
request for information on the future use of the Tudor Crown in the New
Zealand coat of arms, insignia, etc. Your reply stated that:

 

"No consideration has yet been given to the issue of King Charles III’s
cypher and any possible effect on the New Zealand Coat of Arms or other
forms (honours insignia or other representations). This will be considered
by the Prime Minister at a later date."

 

I note that at the 2024 King's Birthday Honours, the Queen's service order
was renamed as the King's Service Order and that the depiction of Queen
Elizabeth II on the insignia was replaced with one of King Charles III.
The depiction of the crown, however, remains as that of the St Edward’s
Crown.

 

Does this mean that a decision has now been made to retain St Edward’s
Crown as the primary depiction of the crown on New Zealand insignia
(honours, uniforms, etc)?

 

If not, was changing the crown considered during the redesign of the
King's Service Order and why was it decided to retain the depiction of St
Edward’s Crown?

 

Finally, what decisions have been made regarding the use of King's Charles
III's cypher and the depiction of the crown in New Zealand? (For example,
I note that the executive council chambers now use the CiiiR cypher and
Tudor crown, but I have not seen this in any other government department
and appears inconsistent with the King's Service Order)

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Stanley Bannerman

 

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