Car data recorder
Mike made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
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From: Mike
Dear New Zealand Police,
Many modern cars are fitted with event data recorders (aka crash data recorders). Do NZ Police retrieve data from these when investigating a vehicle crash?
Yours faithfully,
Mike
From: Mike
Dear New Zealand Police,
My apologies I missed the second part of my question
If you do, does it require the prior permission of the vehicle owner or the driver before you access the data. Or is there legislation that allows you to access it without either the owners or the drivers consent in the event of a crash?
Yours faithfully,
Mike
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Mike
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request below (both parts/emails).
Your reference number is IR-01-24-3141.
You can expect a response to your request on or before 26 February 2024 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi, Michelle
Ministerial Services - Police National Headquarters
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From: Mike <[FOI #25548 email]>
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Dear New Zealand Police,
My apologies I missed the second part of my question
If you do, does it require the prior permission of the vehicle owner or the driver before you access the data. Or is there legislation that allows you to access it without either the owners or the drivers consent in the event of a crash?
Yours faithfully,
Mike
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From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Mike
Please find attached the response relating to your Official Information
Act request, received by Police on 28 January 2024.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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From: Mike
Dear Ministerial Services,
Thanks for your reply. You response does answer my 2nd question but not the first i.e. Many modern cars are fitted with event data recorders (aka crash data recorders). Do NZ Police retrieve data from these when investigating a vehicle crash?
Yours sincerely,
Mike
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Mike
I have checked with the workgroup that drafted your response and they have advised that Police may choose to use those powers where the legislation permits, and it is believed that doing so may provide value to an investigation.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike <[FOI #25548 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2024 7:37 PM
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IR-01-24-3141 - OIA Response
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Dear Ministerial Services,
Thanks for your reply. You response does answer my 2nd question but not the first i.e. Many modern cars are fitted with event data recorders (aka crash data recorders). Do NZ Police retrieve data from these when investigating a vehicle crash?
Yours sincerely,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
Tēnā koe Mike
Please find attached the response relating to your Official Information Act request, received by Police on 28 January 2024.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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WARNING
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The response does not really answer my first question i.e. "Do NZ Police retrieve data from these when investigating a vehicle crash?"
They have indicated they might if they thought its valuable. But have not indicated if they have ever retrieved data, if its standard operating procedure, or used by exception.
Enough for my purposes. But I do not consider it a reasonable response to the 1st question to meet the expectations of an OIA.
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