Change of Measuring Equipment from Manual to Electronic
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From: T Dobbie
Dear National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited,
1. Please advise the dates the Christchurch Weather Stations changed from manual measuring equipment to the electronic form for each of the types of measuring equipment. The sunshine recorder, thermometers, rain gauge and all other equipment.
2. Please advise if there is any equipment still utilising the old manual systems for measurement.
Thank you
Yours faithfully,
T Dobbie
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From: Melissa Bray
National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited
Kia ora T Dobbie,
Thank you for your email. We acknowledge receipt of your OIA request below.
We will respond as soon as possible and no later than 13 February 2024, being 20 working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to respond to your request by then, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe.
Ngā mihi,
Melissa
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From: T Dobbie <[FOI #25371 email]>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 3:33 PM
To: Enquiries <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Change of Measuring Equipment from Manual to Electronic
Dear National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited,
1. Please advise the dates the Christchurch Weather Stations changed from manual measuring equipment to the electronic form for each of the types of measuring equipment. The sunshine recorder, thermometers, rain gauge and all other equipment.
2. Please advise if there is any equipment still utilising the old manual systems for measurement.
Thank you
Yours faithfully,
T Dobbie
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From: Melissa Bray
National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited
Kia ora T Dobbie,
Thank you for your OIA request. We respond as follows.
1. Please advise the dates the Christchurch Weather Stations changed from manual measuring equipment to the electronic form for each of the types of measuring equipment. The sunshine recorder, thermometers, rain gauge and all other equipment.
The Christchurch Botanic Gardens weather station was upgraded to an Electronic Weather Station (EWS) called Christchurch Botanic Gardens EWS on 02 June 2021. The EWS measures and records Air Temperature, Relative Humidity, Barometric pressure, Rainfall, Grass Minimum, Soil Temperatures at 10cm, 20cm, 50cm and 100cm together with Soil Moisture at depths from 10-80cm at 10cm intervals. The exposure was never favourable for wind, sunshine or solar radiation so no measurements of such are being recorded electronically. I cannot see records of manual observations for those parameters either.
2. Please advise if there is any equipment still utilising the old manual systems for measurement.
The manual instruments are still part of the stations history. There was an overlap period for a year or so soon after the upgrade but observations are not being made for official records since then.
Please note, under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this decision.
Ngā mihi
Melissa
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From: Melissa Bray
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 2:24 PM
To: [FOI #25371 email]
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Change of Measuring Equipment from Manual to Electronic
Kia ora T Dobbie,
Thank you for your email. We acknowledge receipt of your OIA request below.
We will respond as soon as possible and no later than 13 February 2024, being 20 working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to respond to your request by then, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe.
Ngā mihi,
Melissa
-----Original Message-----
From: T Dobbie <[FOI #25371 email]>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 3:33 PM
To: Enquiries <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Change of Measuring Equipment from Manual to Electronic
Dear National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited,
1. Please advise the dates the Christchurch Weather Stations changed from manual measuring equipment to the electronic form for each of the types of measuring equipment. The sunshine recorder, thermometers, rain gauge and all other equipment.
2. Please advise if there is any equipment still utilising the old manual systems for measurement.
Thank you
Yours faithfully,
T Dobbie
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National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd (NIWA)
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From: T Dobbie
Dear Melissa Bray,
Thank you for your response.
Your reply..."The exposure was never favourable for wind, sunshine or solar radiation so no measurements of such are being recorded electronically".
Measurements for sunshine were recorded from the Botanic Gardens from 1863 through until 2006. What was the reason for this being stopped?
My thinking is, by continuing the recordings we would have reliable sunshine climate records which would support baseline datum theory.
Yours sincerely,
T Dobbie
From: Melissa Bray
National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited
Kia ora
I am on annual leave and back in the office 8 April 2024.
Ngā mihi
Melissa
Melissa Bray
Communications Lead - Technology & Innovation and Internal Comms
+64-9-375-7135
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41 Market Place, Viaduct Harbour Auckland New Zealand
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From: Seema Singh
National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited
Kia ora T Dobbie
Thanks for your email.
Just correcting some information that you have received.
Radiation - never recorded at this station
Wind - last observation done in 1884
Sunshine - last observation done in 1953
Christchurch Botanic Gardens station started in 1863 and it is still operational until now.
We have an automated station at the same place called the Christchurch Botanic Gardens EWS which started operating in 2021.
NIWA has not closed the manual station - both, manual and automated stations are still operational.
Currently the Manual station records the following parameters:
- rainfall
- dry bulb temperature
- wet bulb temperature
- maximum temperature
- minimum temperature
- grass minimum temperature
- 10, 20, 30 and 100cm earth temperatures
- evaporation
The automated station measures:
- rainfall
- dry bulb temperature
- wet bulb temperature
- maximum temperature
- minimum temperature
- grass minimum temperature
- 10, 20, and 100cm earth temperatures
- air pressure
Most stations in NZ were started as a temperature or rainfall station. Other parameters were not generally measured. Another reason I can think of (for not including these 3 parameters) is that the location of the climate station in the Botanical Garden is in a place where there are exposure issues for sunshine, radiation, and wind - the place is surrounded by trees and the readings will not give a true picture of the weather of Christchurch. This is my assumption as I cannot find any notes on why the people before us decided not to include these three instruments at the station.
Hope this answers your question.
Many thanks
Seema
-----Original Message-----
From: T Dobbie <[FOI #25371 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 8:01 PM
To: Melissa Bray <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Change of Measuring Equipment from Manual to Electronic
Dear Melissa Bray,
Thank you for your response.
Your reply..."The exposure was never favourable for wind, sunshine or solar radiation so no measurements of such are being recorded electronically".
Measurements for sunshine were recorded from the Botanic Gardens from 1863 through until 2006. What was the reason for this being stopped?
My thinking is, by continuing the recordings we would have reliable sunshine climate records which would support baseline datum theory.
Yours sincerely,
T Dobbie
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora T Dobbie,
Thank you for your OIA request. We respond as follows.
1. Please advise the dates the Christchurch Weather Stations changed from manual measuring equipment to the electronic form for each of the types of measuring equipment. The sunshine recorder, thermometers, rain gauge and all other equipment.
The Christchurch Botanic Gardens weather station was upgraded to an Electronic Weather Station (EWS) called Christchurch Botanic Gardens EWS on 02 June 2021. The EWS measures and records Air Temperature, Relative Humidity, Barometric pressure, Rainfall, Grass Minimum, Soil Temperatures at 10cm, 20cm, 50cm and 100cm together with Soil Moisture at depths from 10-80cm at 10cm intervals. The exposure was never favourable for wind, sunshine or solar radiation so no measurements of such are being recorded electronically. I cannot see records of manual observations for those parameters either.
2. Please advise if there is any equipment still utilising the old manual systems for measurement.
The manual instruments are still part of the stations history. There was an overlap period for a year or so soon after the upgrade but observations are not being made for official records since then.
Please note, under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of this decision.
Ngā mihi
Melissa
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Seema Singh
Climate Technician
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National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd (NIWA)
301 Evans Bay Parade Hataitai Wellington New Zealand
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From: T Dobbie
Dear Seema Singh,
For your information sunshine was recorded at this station until at least 2006 since the 1850s. The station was a key station for meteorological data.
With changes in technology and a increase of building around our city, it seems thoughtless to stop recordings from a place that would be truly unaffected as the city grows.
Yours sincerely,
T Dobbie
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