Do police consider it illegal to link to material later classified as objectionable?
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From: Roger Brown
Dear New Zealand Police,
1a) Who recommended to Police that charges be laid against the 'Counterspin Media' cranks for posting a link to a website that allowed users who made the choice to access that website to play a video that was- days after the original post was made- classified as objectionable by the Office of Film and Literature Classification?
1b) Who recommended to Police that charges be laid against the 'Counterspin Media' cranks for posting a document that makes broadly similar claims to said video, which OFLC has confirmed is not, itself, classified as objectionable?
1c) Please provide all communications made within Police and with Crown Solicitors and other agencies, prior to laying these charges.
2a) The Films, Videos, and Publications Classification Act 1993 provides a very clear definition of the meaning of 'distribute' in the context of the offenses with which the cranks have been charged. It is very obvious that the act only covers the actual electronic transmission of objectionable publications, whether on its own (publishing/hosting objectionable publications yourself on your own website) or as part of a wider set of material (publishing/hosting a website which includes offensive material as a subset of the content of a web page, or embedded on such). Please provide any documents, inclusive but not limited to the 'Objectionable publications' part of the Police Manual, relevant to how Police reinterpret the Act in the context of publications on the World Wide Web.
2b) Do Police consider linking (providing an internet location that a user might choose to visit) to content that has been classified as objectionable to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
2c) Do Police consider linking to web pages that include embedded links to content that has been classified as objectionable to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
2d) Do Police consider linking to web pages that link to content that has been classified as objectionable to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
2e) Do Police consider linking to web pages that include embedded links to content that is classified as objectionable after the links are originally posted to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
Kind regards,
Roger Brown
From: Ministerial Services
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Dear New Zealand Police,
1a) Who recommended to Police that charges be laid against the 'Counterspin Media' cranks for posting a link to a website that allowed users who made the choice to access that website to play a video that was- days after the original post was made- classified as objectionable by the Office of Film and Literature Classification?
1b) Who recommended to Police that charges be laid against the 'Counterspin Media' cranks for posting a document that makes broadly similar claims to said video, which OFLC has confirmed is not, itself, classified as objectionable?
1c) Please provide all communications made within Police and with Crown Solicitors and other agencies, prior to laying these charges.
2a) The Films, Videos, and Publications Classification Act 1993 provides a very clear definition of the meaning of 'distribute' in the context of the offenses with which the cranks have been charged. It is very obvious that the act only covers the actual electronic transmission of objectionable publications, whether on its own (publishing/hosting objectionable publications yourself on your own website) or as part of a wider set of material (publishing/hosting a website which includes offensive material as a subset of the content of a web page, or embedded on such). Please provide any documents, inclusive but not limited to the 'Objectionable publications' part of the Police Manual, relevant to how Police reinterpret the Act in the context of publications on the World Wide Web.
2b) Do Police consider linking (providing an internet location that a user might choose to visit) to content that has been classified as objectionable to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
2c) Do Police consider linking to web pages that include embedded links to content that has been classified as objectionable to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
2d) Do Police consider linking to web pages that link to content that has been classified as objectionable to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
2e) Do Police consider linking to web pages that include embedded links to content that is classified as objectionable after the links are originally posted to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
Kind regards,
Roger Brown
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From: Ministerial Services
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Tēnā koe Roger
I refer to your request of 10 September 2022 for the following
information:
1a) Who recommended to Police that charges be laid against the 'Counter
spin Media' cranks for posting a link to a website that allowed users who
made the choice to access that website to play a video that was- days
after the original post was made- classified as objectionable by the
Office of Film and Literature Classification?
1b) Who recommended to Police that charges be laid against the 'Counter
spin Media' cranks for posting a document that makes broadly similar
claims to said video, which OFLC has confirmed is not, itself, classified
as objectionable?
1c) Please provide all communications made within Police and with Crown
Solicitors and other agencies, priorto laying these charges.
2a) The Films, Videos, and Publications Classification Act 1993 provides a
very clear definition of the meaning of 'distribute' in the context of the
offenses with which the cranks have been charged. It is very obvious that
the act only covers the actual electronic transmission of objectionable
publications, whether on its own(publishing/hosting objectionable
publications yourself on your own website) or as part of a wider set of
material (publishing/hosting a website which includes offensive material
as a subset of the content of a webpage, or embedded on such). Please
provide any documents, inclusive but not limited to the 'Objectionable
publications' part of the Police Manual, relevant to how Police
reinterpret the Act in the context of publications on the World Wide Web.
2b) Do Police consider linking (providing an internet location that a user
might choose to visit) to content that has been classified as
objectionable to constitute 'distributing' objectionable publications?
2c) Do Police consider linking to web pages that include embedded links to
content that has been classified as objectionable to constitute
'distributing' objectionable publications?
2d) Do Police consider linking to web pages that link to content that has
been classified as objectionable to constitute 'distributing'
objectionable publications?
2e) Do Police consider linking to web pages that include embedded links to
content that is classified as objectionable after
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I see NZ Police have withheld several sections of the "Objectionable publications" Police Manual chapter they released to you, having asserted that withholding this information is necessary because "the making available of the information would be likely to prejudice the maintenance of the law."
The Ombudsman's guidance on decisions to withhold information under section 6 of the Official Information Act 1982 is clear:
"It is not sufficient to simply assert that disclosure of the information will have a prejudicial effect. The public sector agency must be able to identify, with sufficient particularity, the nature of the prejudicial effect and explain how such prejudice will occur in order to meet the tests for withholding in section 6."
"The phrase "would be likely" requires more than mere possibility that disclosure may have a prejudicial effect. The Court of Appeal has interpreted the phrase "would be likely" to mean "a serious or real and substantial risk to a protected interest, a risk that might well eventuate”."
https://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/reso...
For the past several months, I have been collating Police Manual chapters that have been released by NZ Police. In this work I have seen several instances in which NZ Police have released a document twice, once with significant information withheld under section 6(c) of the OIA and once with that information released. In each case, I could see no clear way in which the release of this information could possibly be likely to prejudice the maintenance of the law.
I recommend you complain to the Ombudsman about NZ Police's decision to withhold information under section 6(c) of the OIA in response to your request. The Ombudsman will be able to view the information in order to form an opinion on whether or not NZ Police's decision was reasonable, and may recommend that NZ Police reconsider its response and release some or all of the withheld information.
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