Palmerston North central station- Detention details for weekend in May 2014
Kilian O'Gorman made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
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From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear New Zealand Police,
August 12th 2014
Kilian O’Gorman
I am a permanent resident living in NZ. My details proving eligibility are on file with the NZ Police.
This is a request for information under the Official Information Act 1982. The response to this request may form in part a complaint to the Police Complaints Authority. As such, this request should be treated as urgent under Sec 12 (3)
For the period from 6pm May 10th 2014 to midday May 12th 2014, please provide the following:
For all persons arrested, detained, or otherwise held in custody within the confines of Palmerston North Central Police station:
Note: no information is required for those arrests or detentions which arrived at the station before the period stated.
1. The reason for their arrest, detention, or bringing into custody ( an offence code and or statute -Act/sect/ etc- )
2. The place of arrest, detention, or bringing into custody (streetname and suburb – no address required.)
3. The time of arrest, detention, or bringing into custody.
4. The arresting or detaining officer’s Identification ID number.
5. The time their detention within the confines of the station began according to station log/s
6. The main or primary charge, if any were laid (No details are required which might identify a victim, witness or suspect to an offence- however the specific details of which Act/Section/offence etc are required).
7. If not charged- then any infringement or fine or other mechanism served or given as notice of proceedings.
8. The time the detention ended according to station log/s.
9. If given- the reason the detention ended (ie; released without charge/ transferred to other facility/charged and released/died in custody/escaped etc)
10. The detained person’s gender and age in years (date of birth not required).
11. The total number of persons detained, arrested, or held in custody who are not included in the detailed listing, with a summary explanation.
ITEM 1 Reason for arrest
ITEM 2 Place of arrest
ITEM 3 Time of arrest
ITEM 4 Arresting Officer
ITEM 5 Time detention began
ITEM 6 Charges ( or primary charge)
ITEM 7 Infringement or other outcome
ITEM 8 Time detention ended
ITEM 9 Reason detention ended
ITEM 10 Detainee's Gender Detainee's age
Person 1 example
ITEM 1 SOA 29 (1) (b)
ITEM 2 Private garden-Cuba St
ITEM 3 12:40am
ITEM 4 XX123
ITEM 5 1:00am
ITEM 6 Nil
ITEM 7 Nil
ITEM 8 01:45 am
ITEM 9 Released without charge
ITEM 10 F 45
A completed template substantially similar to the one above with one row per detention event (10 item columns)- is requested.
Alternatively- if existing log/s documents exist which contain substantially similar information & can be copied – thus saving time - I am happy to receive these and complete the template myself. Personal information identifying private individuals is not required and can be redacted.
The purpose of this OIA is to understand how police are using their powers of arrest and detention at PN Central station.
I am available by telephone should you wish to send me a number which I can ring.
Yours faithfully,
Kilian O'Gorman
New Zealand Police
Dear Kilian,
Thank you for your email, which has been forwarded to the correct
department for follow-up.
Kind regards,
PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM
NZ POLICE
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From: Kilian O'Gorman <[OIA #1887 email]>
Date: 12/08/2014 04:47PM
Subject: Official Information Act request - Palmerston North central
station- Detention details for weekend in May 2014
Dear New Zealand Police,
August 12th 2014
Kilian O’Gorman
I am a permanent resident living in NZ. My details proving eligibility
are on file with the NZ Police.
This is a request for information under the Official Information Act
1982. The response to this request may form in part a complaint to the
Police Complaints Authority. As such, this request should be treated as
urgent under Sec 12 (3)
For the period from 6pm May 10th 2014 to midday May 12th 2014, please
provide the following:
For all persons arrested, detained, or otherwise held in custody within
the confines of Palmerston North Central Police station:
Note: no information is required for those arrests or detentions which
arrived at the station before the period stated.
1. The reason for their arrest, detention, or bringing into custody (
an offence code and or statute -Act/sect/ etc- )
2. The place of arrest, detention, or bringing into custody
(streetname and suburb – no address required.)
3. The time of arrest, detention, or bringing into custody.
4. The arresting or detaining officer’s Identification ID number.
5. The time their detention within the confines of the station began
according to station log/s
6. The main or primary charge, if any were laid (No details are
required which might identify a victim, witness or suspect to an
offence- however the specific details of which Act/Section/offence etc
are required).
7. If not charged- then any infringement or fine or other mechanism
served or given as notice of proceedings.
8. The time the detention ended according to station log/s.
9. If given- the reason the detention ended (ie; released without
charge/ transferred to other facility/charged and released/died in
custody/escaped etc)
10. The detained person’s gender and age in years (date of birth not
required).
11. The total number of persons detained, arrested, or held in
custody who are not included in the detailed listing, with a summary
explanation.
ITEM 1 Reason for arrest
ITEM 2 Place of arrest
ITEM 3 Time of arrest
ITEM 4 Arresting Officer
ITEM 5 Time detention began
ITEM 6 Charges ( or primary charge)
ITEM 7 Infringement or other outcome
ITEM 8 Time detention ended
ITEM 9 Reason detention ended
ITEM 10 Detainee's Gender Detainee's age
Person 1 example
ITEM 1 SOA 29 (1) (b)
ITEM 2 Private garden-Cuba St
ITEM 3 12:40am
ITEM 4 XX123
ITEM 5 1:00am
ITEM 6 Nil
ITEM 7 Nil
ITEM 8 01:45 am
ITEM 9 Released without charge
ITEM 10 F 45
A completed template substantially similar to the one above with one row
per detention event (10 item columns)- is requested.
Alternatively- if existing log/s documents exist which contain
substantially similar information & can be copied – thus saving time - I
am happy to receive these and complete the template myself. Personal
information identifying private individuals is not required and can be
redacted.
The purpose of this OIA is to understand how police are using their
powers of arrest and detention at PN Central station.
I am available by telephone should you wish to send me a number which I
can ring.
Yours faithfully,
Kilian O'Gorman
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From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Good evening Mr O'Gorman,
This email is in relation to your OIA request, as you may be aware this
matter was due for completion today.
Your request has been back and forth to our legal section, so I have come
into to the office tonight to send you the information that you have
requested, but I have had to send it back to legal section to another
review.
I anticipate that I will be able to give you the information that you have
requested, tomorrow evening when I will next be back in the office.
I am currently on leave, but I am available to take your call should you
wish to discuss this over the phone.
I thank you for your patience in advance.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant | Releiving Station Support / Palmerston North Police
M +64 211 91 4542 | E [1][email address]
Safer Communities Together
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From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear Nathan,
Thank you for your response regarding detention details for Palmerston North central station.
I look forward to receiving a full response soon, as this OIA was requested under urgency.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Mr O'Gorman,
can I please have a postal adddress to send you a letter, thanks.
Nathan
-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian O'Gorman [mailto:[OIA #1887 email]]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:37
To: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Subject: Re: OIA
Dear Nathan,
Thank you for your response regarding detention details for Palmerston North central station.
I look forward to receiving a full response soon, as this OIA was requested under urgency.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
-----Original Message-----
Good evening Mr O'Gorman,
This email is in relation to your OIA request, as you may be aware this matter was due for completion today.
Your request has been back and forth to our legal section, so I have come into to the office tonight to send you the information that you have requested, but I have had to send it back to legal section to another review.
I anticipate that I will be able to give you the information that you have requested, tomorrow evening when I will next be back in the office.
I am currently on leave, but I am available to take your call should you wish to discuss this over the phone.
I thank you for your patience in advance.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant | Releiving Station Support / Palmerston North Police
M +64 211 91 4542 | E [1][email address] Safer Communities Together
Check out NZ Police on Find NZ Police on [3]Twitter [2]Facebook
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From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear Nathan.
I do not wish to have any of my personal details published on a publicly accessible website such as this one.
In your note to me yesterday you suggested you were happy to take a phonecall- and I am happy to make one- so if you would kindly post your number I can give you a call.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
0211 91 4542
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2014 19:20
To: '[OIA #1887 email]'
Subject: OIA
Good evening Mr O'Gorman,
This email is in relation to your OIA request, as you may be aware this
matter was due for completion today.
Your request has been back and forth to our legal section, so I have come
into to the office tonight to send you the information that you have
requested, but I have had to send it back to legal section to another
review.
I anticipate that I will be able to give you the information that you have
requested, tomorrow evening when I will next be back in the office.
I am currently on leave, but I am available to take your call should you
wish to discuss this over the phone.
I thank you for your patience in advance.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant | Releiving Station Support / Palmerston North Police
M +64 211 91 4542 | E [1][email address]
Safer Communities Together
Check out NZ Police on Find NZ Police on [3]Twitter
[2]Facebook
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From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Kilian,
I have received the letter back and the template with the information has been reviewed and they (legal section) are happy for me to send it.
However, yesterday you said that this email address was a public forum (hence your reluctance to give me your mailing address) . . . . so before I send the information, I just want to make sure that you want the information sent electronically to this e - address.
thanks,
-----Original Message-----
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2014 09:39
To: 'Kilian O'Gorman'
Subject: RE: OIA
Mr O'Gorman,
can I please have a postal adddress to send you a letter, thanks.
Nathan
-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian O'Gorman [mailto: ]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:37
To: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Subject: Re: OIA
Dear Nathan,
Thank you for your response regarding detention details for Palmerston North central station.
I look forward to receiving a full response soon, as this OIA was requested under urgency.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
-----Original Message-----
Good evening Mr O'Gorman,
This email is in relation to your OIA request, as you may be aware this matter was due for completion today.
Your request has been back and forth to our legal section, so I have come into to the office tonight to send you the information that you have requested, but I have had to send it back to legal section to another review.
I anticipate that I will be able to give you the information that you have requested, tomorrow evening when I will next be back in the office.
I am currently on leave, but I am available to take your call should you wish to discuss this over the phone.
I thank you for your patience in advance.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant | Releiving Station Support / Palmerston North Police
M +64 211 91 4542 | E [1][email address] Safer Communities Together
Check out NZ Police on Find NZ Police on [3]Twitter [2]Facebook
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From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear Nathan,
That would be fine thanks- and thanks for your assistance with this OIA - in advance.
You can find many OIA responses from NZ Police here :
https://fyi.org.nz
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Good morning Mr O'Gorman,
Please find attached a scanned an signed letter from myself re you OIA request.
I have also attached a spreadsheet that contains the information that you have requested.
As discussed with you last week, I have taken out the names of the streets, as this may identify those persons who were arrested, but I have left the town from which they were arrested.
From out discussion last week, I understand that you wanted to know if there were prisoners arrested by the same Police Officer. I have taken out the officers numbers and replaced it with a 1, 2, or 3. Those numbers represent the arresting members, ie: Officer 1 made the arrests on row 1 and 11.
Please if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to contact me directly on my cell phone,
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Station Supervisor / Palmerston North
P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz
Safer Communities Together
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian O'Gorman [mailto:[OIA #1887 email]]
Sent: Friday, 12 September 2014 15:39
To: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Subject: Re: FW: OIA
Dear Nathan,
That would be fine thanks- and thanks for your assistance with this OIA - in advance.
You can find many OIA responses from NZ Police here :
https://fyi.org.nz
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
-----Original Message-----
Kilian,
I have received the letter back and the template with the information has been reviewed and they (legal section) are happy for me to send it.
However, yesterday you said that this email address was a public forum (hence your reluctance to give me your mailing address) . . . . so before I send the information, I just want to make sure that you want the information sent electronically to this e - address.
thanks,
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From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Mr O'Gorman,
My apologies, I sent the wrong letter . . . please find the final letter re your OIA.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Station Supervisor / Palmerston North
P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz
Safer Communities Together
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-----Original Message-----
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Sent: Monday, 15 September 2014 10:09
To: 'Kilian O'Gorman'
Subject: RE: FW: OIA
Good morning Mr O'Gorman,
Please find attached a scanned an signed letter from myself re you OIA request.
I have also attached a spreadsheet that contains the information that you have requested.
As discussed with you last week, I have taken out the names of the streets, as this may identify those persons who were arrested, but I have left the town from which they were arrested.
From out discussion last week, I understand that you wanted to know if there were prisoners arrested by the same Police Officer. I have taken out the officers numbers and replaced it with a 1, 2, or 3. Those numbers represent the arresting members, ie: Officer 1 made the arrests on row 1 and 11.
Please if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to contact me directly on my cell phone,
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Station Supervisor / Palmerston North P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz Safer Communities Together
Check out NZ Police on Facebook
Find NZ Police on Twitter
-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian O'Gorman [mailto:[OIA #1887 email]]
Sent: Friday, 12 September 2014 15:39
To: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Subject: Re: FW: OIA
Dear Nathan,
That would be fine thanks- and thanks for your assistance with this OIA - in advance.
You can find many OIA responses from NZ Police here :
https://fyi.org.nz
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
-----Original Message-----
Kilian,
I have received the letter back and the template with the information has been reviewed and they (legal section) are happy for me to send it.
However, yesterday you said that this email address was a public forum (hence your reluctance to give me your mailing address) . . . . so before I send the information, I just want to make sure that you want the information sent electronically to this e - address.
thanks,
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From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear Nathan,
Thank you for the spreadsheet you prepared in response to my OIA.
Some points:
1. The reason for their arrest, detention, or bringing into custody ( an offence code and or statute -Act/sect/ etc- )
You have included the terms: INCIDENTS-INCIDENTS,TASKS-TASKS & A SERIES -ALCOHOL RELATED OFFENCES.
Can you please provide an offence code and or statute reference- as they stand they appear to be internal NZP references, rather than specific offences which could lead to a charge.
4. The arresting or detaining officer’s Identification ID number.
While we agreed in our telephone conversation recently that ID numbers were not required, only unique identifiers (eg Officer 1,Officer 2,etc)- you have not provided any such identifier for 16 of the 25 detentions detailed. The result of this is that I cannot determine if it was Officer X making all 16 arrests, or 16 officers making one arrest each. Can you please complete these details- and I reiterate this is not an attempt to identify individual officers or detainees.
6. The main or primary charge, if any were laid (No details are required which might identify a victim, witness or suspect to an offence- however the specific details of which Act/Section/offence etc are required).
You have not provided this information- however you have included a column "No charges filed reason" detailing 16 [reasons. Can you please provide specific charges (ie Offence+Statute) for those detainess who were charged- or alternatively confirm that they were not charged. I had provided an example - "SOA 29 (1) (b) ". I assume you are familiar with this format- ie the actual charge or that which an officer of the Court would expect to be presented.
7. If not charged- then any infringement or fine or other mechanism served or given as notice of proceedings.
You have provided a column named "No Charges Filed Reason" with 16 [reasons] detailed. They include the following: pcw, Put in twice, PCW, BoB, WTA, - which I hope you can agree are meaningless without a meaning given.
9. If given- the reason the detention ended (ie; released without charge/ transferred to other facility/charged and released/died in custody/escaped etc)
While some of this information is contained within Item 7 above- you have not provided this column.
11. The total number of persons detained, arrested, or held in custody who are not included in the detailed listing.
I cannot see where you have provided this Item.
The purpose of the OIA was given as: "The purpose of this OIA is to determine the detention-to-charge ratio at PN Central station", and while this is by no means the only purpose- I think you'll agree that this cannot be done with the information provided.
Nathan would you please consider completing the information with the work already done- rather than creating more work through more OIA requests.
Thank you for your considerable efforts so far.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Kilian,
I will address the points that you have raised to offer clarification, I am comfortable with the additional work being completed under the same OIA reqest.
I will be in touch next week.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Youth and Community Manager / Palmerston North
P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz
Safer Communities Together
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian O'Gorman [mailto:[OIA #1887 email]]
Sent: Friday, 19 September 2014 10:37
To: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Subject: Re: FW: FW: OIA
Dear Nathan,
Thank you for the spreadsheet you prepared in response to my OIA.
Some points:
1. The reason for their arrest, detention, or bringing into custody ( an offence code and or statute -Act/sect/ etc- )
You have included the terms: INCIDENTS-INCIDENTS,TASKS-TASKS & A SERIES -ALCOHOL RELATED OFFENCES.
Can you please provide an offence code and or statute reference- as they stand they appear to be internal NZP references, rather than specific offences which could lead to a charge.
4. The arresting or detaining officer’s Identification ID number.
While we agreed in our telephone conversation recently that ID numbers were not required, only unique identifiers (eg Officer 1,Officer 2,etc)- you have not provided any such identifier for 16 of the 25 detentions detailed. The result of this is that I cannot determine if it was Officer X making all 16 arrests, or 16 officers making one arrest each. Can you please complete these details- and I reiterate this is not an attempt to identify individual officers or detainees.
6. The main or primary charge, if any were laid (No details are required which might identify a victim, witness or suspect to an offence- however the specific details of which Act/Section/offence etc are required).
You have not provided this information- however you have included a column "No charges filed reason" detailing 16 [reasons. Can you please provide specific charges (ie Offence+Statute) for those detainess who were charged- or alternatively confirm that they were not charged. I had provided an example - "SOA 29 (1) (b) ". I assume you are familiar with this format- ie the actual charge or that which an officer of the Court would expect to be presented.
7. If not charged- then any infringement or fine or other mechanism served or given as notice of proceedings.
You have provided a column named "No Charges Filed Reason" with 16 [reasons] detailed. They include the following: pcw, Put in twice, PCW, BoB, WTA, - which I hope you can agree are meaningless without a meaning given.
9. If given- the reason the detention ended (ie; released without charge/ transferred to other facility/charged and released/died in custody/escaped etc)
While some of this information is contained within Item 7 above- you have not provided this column.
11. The total number of persons detained, arrested, or held in custody who are not included in the detailed listing.
I cannot see where you have provided this Item.
The purpose of the OIA was given as: "The purpose of this OIA is to determine the detention-to-charge ratio at PN Central station", and while this is by no means the only purpose- I think you'll agree that this cannot be done with the information provided.
Nathan would you please consider completing the information with the work already done- rather than creating more work through more OIA requests.
Thank you for your considerable efforts so far.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
-----Original Message-----
Mr O'Gorman,
My apologies, I sent the wrong letter . . . please find the final letter re your OIA.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Station Supervisor / Palmerston North P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz Safer Communities Together
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From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear DAVIS, David (Nathan),
Thanks Nathan- within the next 20 days is fine.
Have a good weekend.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear DAVIS, David (Nathan),
On 19th September you acknowledged that this OIA was incomplete and would be completed within a week. I suggested within 20 days as a courtesy- it is now more than 30 days since that time. Can you please respond with the completed OIA.
Thanks
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Killian,
I am sorry that you have had to chase me up on this.
I was positive that I sent you an email, asking to send me another OIA request, as the advice that I got was that I was to ask you to send another request, and I would respond to that. I was half way through my reply to you today, and I thought I better check my out box and I couldn’t find that email, clearly as I hadn’t sent it.
I have advised my supervisor of this (my) mistake and have been instructed to send you the prepared table that I have attached to this email.
Should you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to call me.
To explain the document, I offer the following.
1. Prisoners name taken out
2. Location of arrest, as discussed previously, I have shown the town as opposed to the street location, as that might identify people involved
3. Reason for their arrest or detention as to why they came through the cells. Police codes: A518 is excess breath alcohol, 7945 Breach of Release conditions
4. date and time that they were arrested
5. arresting members identity or QID (badge number) removed. I have numbered them, you can see that Officer 10 for example has arrested two people at the bottom of the first page
6. time that the prisoner or person in custody entered the cell block area
7. Their movement (ie: taken to district Court) charges laid, released without charge.
8. the time and date that they were released from Police custody. All of those with a date of 12.05.14 are people who were taken to Palmerston North District Court.
9. gender of arrested person.
10. age of arrested person.
Please accept my genuine apology and invitation to call me if you need to discuss.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Youth and Community Manager / Palmerston North
P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz
Safer Communities Together
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian O'Gorman [mailto:[OIA #1887 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2014 12:40
To: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Subject: RE: FW: FW: OIA
Dear DAVIS, David (Nathan),
On 19th September you acknowledged that this OIA was incomplete and would be completed within a week. I suggested within 20 days as a courtesy- it is now more than 30 days since that time. Can you please respond with the completed OIA.
Thanks
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
-----Original Message-----
Kilian,
I will address the points that you have raised to offer clarification, I am comfortable with the additional work being completed under the same OIA reqest.
I will be in touch next week.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Youth and Community Manager / Palmerston North P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz Safer Communities Together
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From: Kilian O'Gorman
Dear DAVIS, David (Nathan),
Thank you for the freshly completed template.
Item 11 - the total number of persons detained over the period covered, who are not included within the template- has not been completed.
Notwithstanding this- I am aware that your time is better spent in other endeavours- so please consider this OIA request completed to satisfaction.
Thanks for your help, it is appreciated.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
From: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
New Zealand Police
Kilian,
thanks for the email letting me know thaty ou have received the information and it completes the request.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant | Sub Area Manager | Tararua
P +64 6 374 4503 Ext: 64403 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
PO Box 24, Dannevirke, www.police.govt.nz
Safer Communities Together
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian O'Gorman [mailto:[OIA #1887 email]]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 08:08
To: DAVIS, David (Nathan)
Subject: RE: FW: FW: OIA
Dear DAVIS, David (Nathan),
Thank you for the freshly completed template.
Item 11 - the total number of persons detained over the period covered, who are not included within the template- has not been completed.
Notwithstanding this- I am aware that your time is better spent in other endeavours- so please consider this OIA request completed to satisfaction.
Thanks for your help, it is appreciated.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian O'Gorman
-----Original Message-----
Killian,
I am sorry that you have had to chase me up on this.
I was positive that I sent you an email, asking to send me another OIA request, as the advice that I got was that I was to ask you to send another request, and I would respond to that. I was half way through my reply to you today, and I thought I better check my out box and I couldn’t find that email, clearly as I hadn’t sent it.
I have advised my supervisor of this (my) mistake and have been instructed to send you the prepared table that I have attached to this email.
Should you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to call me.
To explain the document, I offer the following.
1. Prisoners name taken out
2. Location of arrest, as discussed previously, I have shown the town as opposed to the street location, as that might identify people involved
3. Reason for their arrest or detention as to why they came through the cells. Police codes: A518 is excess breath alcohol, 7945 Breach of Release conditions
4. date and time that they were arrested
5. arresting members identity or QID (badge number) removed. I have numbered them, you can see that Officer 10 for example has arrested two people at the bottom of the first page
6. time that the prisoner or person in custody entered the cell block area
7. Their movement (ie: taken to district Court) charges laid, released without charge.
8. the time and date that they were released from Police custody. All of those with a date of 12.05.14 are people who were taken to Palmerston North District Court.
9. gender of arrested person.
10. age of arrested person.
Please accept my genuine apology and invitation to call me if you need to discuss.
Nathan Davis
Senior Sergeant / Relieving Youth and Community Manager / Palmerston North P +64 6 351 3715 Ext: 65715 | M +64 211 91 4542 | E [email address]
410 Church Street, Palmerston North, www.police.govt.nz Safer Communities Together
Check out NZ Police on Facebook
Find NZ Police on Twitter
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I rang NZ Police and had an agreeable chat with the officer/staffer compiling the request- the response should be posted in the next few working days.
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