Vector line charges passed on to people

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From: tina marie kahurangi

Dear Commerce Commission,

Can you please provide the law that allows retailers, to pass line charges on to people, where those charges are charged to VECTOR by TRANS POWER;

Could you also release information regarding Vector network securities, provided to Vector by retailers, where the securities are in the account of the end user;

Yours faithfully,

Agent
Authorized administrator and executor
:tina-marie-kahurangi: house of moke

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Kia ora,
 
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section 12 of the OIA by advising which of the following categories best
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(b) a permanent resident of New Zealand; or
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(d) a body corporate which is incorporated in New Zealand; or
(e) a body corporate which is incorporated outside New Zealand but which
has a place of business in New Zealand
 
 
Many thanks,

Alexandra Murray
OIA and Information Coordinator
Commerce Commission | Te Komihana Tauhokohoko
44 The Terrace | PO Box 2351 | Wellington 6140 | New Zealand
[1][Commerce Commission request email]
[2]www.comcom.govt.nz

 

 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tina marie kahurangi
<[FOI #16420 email]>
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2021 5:28 pm
To: Commerce Commission OIA Requests <[Commerce Commission request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Vector line charges passed on to
people
 
Dear Commerce Commission,
 
Can you please provide the law that allows retailers, to pass line charges
on to people, where those charges are charged to VECTOR by TRANS POWER;
 
Could you also release information regarding Vector network securities,
provided to Vector by retailers, where the securities are in the account
of the end user;
 
Yours faithfully,
 
Agent
Authorized administrator and executor
:tina-marie-kahurangi: house of moke
 
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Tena koe,
 
Thanks for your queries.
 
Regarding your first query, electricity retailers package together and
pass on to consumers the costs from the other parts of the electricity
supply chain, which include costs from electricity generation
(generators), transmission (Transpower), and distribution (distributors,
like Vector Limited). Along with a retailer’s own charges, these costs are
shown in the [1]bill the retailer sends you.
 
As to what law permits retailers to package up and pass on these costs;
this is not so much a matter of statute law, but rather the operation of
the wholesale and retail electricity markets. In simple terms, retailers
(traders) buy electricity from the wholesale market and sell it to
consumers and other end-users under contract (the retailer’s terms and
conditions with each consumer). The [2]Electricity Authority is primarily
responsible for regulating the wholesale and retail electricity markets.
 
I’m not sure I understand your second query on network securities. If you
email me with a contact phone number, I could give you a ring at a
convenient time to clarify and respond to it?
 
Kind regards,
 
Jude
 

Jude Murdoch ([3]him)
Legal Counsel
Commerce Commission | Te Komihana Tauhokohoko
44 The Terrace | PO Box 2351 | Wellington 6140 | New Zealand
DDI +64 4 924 3612| [4][email address]
[5]www.comcom.govt.nz

 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tina marie kahurangi
<[6][FOI #16420 email]>
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2021 5:28 pm
To: Commerce Commission OIA Requests <[7][Commerce Commission request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Vector line charges passed on to
people
 
Dear Commerce Commission,
 
Can you please provide the law that allows retailers, to pass line charges
on to people, where those charges are charged to VECTOR by TRANS POWER;
 
Could you also release information regarding Vector network securities,
provided to Vector by retailers, where the securities are in the account
of the end user;
 
Yours faithfully,
 
Agent
Authorized administrator and executor
:tina-marie-kahurangi: house of moke
 
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Tena koe,
 
I refer to my email below, and specifically, my request to clarify your
second query below, which I’ve highlighted for ease of reference.
 
We have not received any response from you to my email below. Section
12(2) of the Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) requires that a request
for information specify with due particularity the official information
requested. We do not consider your second query meets this requirement,
and, as required under section 13(b) of the OIA, we have sought to offer
and provide you with assistance in making a request that would meet that
requirement. We cannot provide that assistance if we do not hear back from
you.
 
We therefore ask that you come back to us by not later than 13 September
2021 if you wish to clarify and proceed with the second query in your
request. If we do not hear from you by that date, we will proceed no
further with the second query at this time.
 
Kind regards,
 
Jude
 

Jude Murdoch ([1]him)
Legal Counsel
Commerce Commission | Te Komihana Tauhokohoko
44 The Terrace | PO Box 2351 | Wellington 6140 | New Zealand
DDI +64 4 924 3612| [2][email address]
[3]www.comcom.govt.nz

 

 
 
_____________________________________________
From: Jude Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2021 2:33 pm
To: [4][FYI request #16420 email]
Cc: Commerce Commission OIA Requests <[5][Commerce Commission request email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Vector line charges passed on
to people [CCNZ-IMANAGE.FID306956]
 
 
Tena koe,
 
Thanks for your queries.
 
Regarding your first query, electricity retailers package together and
pass on to consumers the costs from the other parts of the electricity
supply chain, which include costs from electricity generation
(generators), transmission (Transpower), and distribution (distributors,
like Vector Limited). Along with a retailer’s own charges, these costs are
shown in the [6]bill the retailer sends you.
 
As to what law permits retailers to package up and pass on these costs;
this is not so much a matter of statute law, but rather the operation of
the wholesale and retail electricity markets. In simple terms, retailers
(traders) buy electricity from the wholesale market and sell it to
consumers and other end-users under contract (the retailer’s terms and
conditions with each consumer). The [7]Electricity Authority is primarily
responsible for regulating the wholesale and retail electricity markets.
 
I’m not sure I understand your second query on network securities. If you
email me with a contact phone number, I could give you a ring at a
convenient time to clarify and respond to it?
 
Kind regards,
 
Jude
 

Jude Murdoch ([8]him)
Legal Counsel
<< OLE Object: Picture Commerce Commission | Te Komihana Tauhokohoko
(Device Independent Bitmap) 44 The Terrace | PO Box 2351 | Wellington
>> 6140 | New Zealand
DDI +64 4 924 3612|
[9][email address]
[10]www.comcom.govt.nz

 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tina marie kahurangi
<[11][FYI request #16420 email]>
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2021 5:28 pm
To: Commerce Commission OIA Requests <[12][Commerce Commission request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Vector line charges passed on to
people
 
Dear Commerce Commission,
 
Can you please provide the law that allows retailers, to pass line charges
on to people, where those charges are charged to VECTOR by TRANS POWER;
 
Could you also release information regarding Vector network securities,
provided to Vector by retailers, where the securities are in the account
of the end user;
 
Yours faithfully,
 
Agent
Authorized administrator and executor
:tina-marie-kahurangi: house of moke
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
 
This is an Official Information request made via the FYI website.
 
Please use this email address for all replies to this request:
[13][FYI request #16420 email]
 
Is [14][Commerce Commission request email] the wrong address for Official Information
requests to Commerce Commission? If so, please contact us using this form:
[15]https://fyi.org.nz/change_request/new?bo...
 
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the internet. Our privacy and copyright policies:
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From: tina marie kahurangi

Dear Jude Murdoch,

I do not believe that any retailer has any claim of right; to pass charges on to people, i am not referring to the principal in the SWIFT system; i am referring to the living woman in the flesh, who has a right to be provided with energy, energy should be free and should not be charged to living people;

I belive in Nikola TESLA's method of energy, i am aware that VECTOR has partnered up with Elon Musk under TESLA, where the method will assist in providing everyone in this world free energy; electric energy, a new system, compared to the current, which claims there is a debt; yet the debt is not verified;

https://www.vector.co.nz/innovation/vide... - Asia pacifics first grid scale Tesla powerpack; free energy;

My second request was regarding the security, each retailer has a security to provide to become a participant of the network; is the security taken from the SWIFT SYSTEM; is the security which is traded on the NZX, have a connection with the securities held with the registrar of BDM; Births, deaths and Marriages, for the sole purpose to identify the PRINCIPAL;

I am not a customer, nor am i a consumer, i am not a citizen or a resident, this is my land, my country, i am a living woman of flesh and blood, a sentient, affiant, sovereign born, a native whose bloodline descends from my chiefs anchored to this soil of this land, we are governed by our Royal patened fundamental constitution approved by King William IV of England 1835, our national flag which was erected on this soil 20 March 1834, is our native right of trade, published in the NSW gazette 17 August 1835, and that all my rights have always been reserved, as recorded, and that i have never knowingly, willingly or intentionally ever waived my rights, and our business is not with corporations, only that our basic needs must be met, it is our God given right to access energy supply, without hinderance;

Retailers who charge living men and women, do not have the right of claim to do so, nor do they have the jurisdiction; the law of the land protects all living beings; Universal law, is where our energy supply is provided from mother earth and the elements of the universe, common law, equity law, maxims of law;

Admiralty law and Maritime law, can only function in a corporate capacity, having no jurisdiction over the real living men and women, our neccesities we need is purely provided for by the universe; and not by you agents; agencies; corporations;

Instruments have been sent to the BDM known as births, deaths and marriages to amend, and update all accurate and not misleading information; in which the data provided by the retailer of ones information, sent to the network, identified through each ICP, does in fact have a connection with the data held with the registrar of Births, deaths and marriages; NZ; the security;

Yours sincerely,
Agent:
Authorized administrator and executor
:tina-marie-kahurangi: of the family moke;

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Tena koe,
 
Thank you for responding to my email requesting further clarification of
your second query.
 
We have not been able to understand your points of clarification in the
email below, and as mentioned previously, section 12(2) of the Official
Information Act 1982 (OIA) requires that an information request be
specified with due particularity. As such, we cannot process your second
query as an information request under the OIA.
 
If you would like to make another request, please email
[1][Commerce Commission request email] to do so.
 
Kind regards,
 
Jude
 

Jude Murdoch ([2]him)
Legal Counsel
Commerce Commission | Te Komihana Tauhokohoko
44 The Terrace | PO Box 2351 | Wellington 6140 | New Zealand
DDI +64 4 924 3612| [3][email address]
[4]www.comcom.govt.nz

 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tina marie kahurangi
<[FOI #16420 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 August 2021 4:12 pm
To: Jude Murdoch <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Vector line charges passed on
to people
 
Dear Jude Murdoch,
 
I do not believe that any retailer has any claim of right; to pass charges
on to people, i am not referring to the principal in the SWIFT system; i
am referring to the living woman in the flesh, who has a right to be
provided with energy, energy should be free and should not be charged to
living people;
 
I belive in Nikola TESLA's method of energy, i am aware that VECTOR has
partnered up with Elon Musk under TESLA, where the method will assist in
providing everyone in this world free energy; electric energy, a new
system, compared to the current, which claims there is a debt; yet the
debt is not verified;
 
[5]https://www.vector.co.nz/innovation/vide...
- Asia pacifics first grid scale  Tesla powerpack; free energy;
 
My second request was regarding the security, each retailer has a security
to provide to become a participant of the network; is the security taken
from the SWIFT SYSTEM; is the security which is traded on the NZX, have a
connection with the securities held with the registrar of BDM; Births,
deaths and Marriages, for the sole purpose to identify the PRINCIPAL;
 
I am not a customer, nor am i a consumer, i am not a citizen or a
resident, this is my land, my country,  i am a living woman of flesh and
blood, a sentient, affiant, sovereign born, a native whose bloodline
descends from my chiefs anchored to this soil of this land, we are
governed by our Royal patened fundamental constitution approved by King
William IV of England 1835, our national flag which was erected on this
soil 20 March 1834, is our native right of trade, published in the NSW
gazette 17 August 1835, and that all my rights have always been reserved,
as recorded, and that i have never knowingly, willingly or intentionally
ever waived my rights, and our business is not with corporations, only
that  our basic needs must be met, it is our God given right to access
energy supply, without hinderance;
 
Retailers who charge living men and women, do not have the right of claim
to do so, nor do they have the jurisdiction; the law of the land protects
all living beings; Universal law, is where our energy supply is provided
from mother earth and the elements of the universe, common law, equity
law, maxims of law;
 
Admiralty law and Maritime law, can only function in a corporate capacity,
having no jurisdiction over the real living men and women, our neccesities
we need is purely provided for by the universe; and not by you agents;
agencies; corporations;
 
Instruments have been sent to the BDM known as births, deaths and
marriages to amend, and update all accurate and not misleading
information; in which the data provided by the retailer of ones
information, sent to the network, identified through each ICP, does in
fact have a connection with the data held with the registrar of Births,
deaths and marriages; NZ; the security;
 
Yours sincerely,
Agent:
Authorized administrator and executor
:tina-marie-kahurangi: of the family moke;
 
-----Original Message-----
 
Tena koe,
 
I refer to my email below, and specifically, my request to clarify your 
second query below, which I’ve highlighted for ease of reference.
 
We have not received any response from you to my email below. Section
12(2) of the Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) requires that a request 
for information specify with due particularity the official information 
requested. We do not consider your second query meets this requirement, 
and, as required under section 13(b) of the OIA, we have sought to offer 
and provide you with assistance in making a request that would meet that 
requirement. We cannot provide that assistance if we do not hear back
from  you.
 
We therefore ask that you come back to us by not later than 13 September
2021 if you wish to clarify and proceed with the second query in your 
request. If we do not hear from you by that date, we will proceed no 
further with the second query at this time.
 
Kind regards,
 
Jude
 
 
Jude Murdoch ([1]him)
Legal Counsel
Commerce Commission | Te Komihana Tauhokohoko
44 The Terrace | PO Box 2351 | Wellington 6140 | New Zealand  DDI +64 4
924 3612| [2][email address]  [3][6]www.comcom.govt.nz
 
 
 
 
 
_____________________________________________
From: Jude Murdoch
Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2021 2:33 pm
To: [4][FYI request #16420 email]
Cc: Commerce Commission OIA Requests <[5][Commerce Commission request
email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Vector line charges passed on 
to people [CCNZ-IMANAGE.FID306956]
 
 
Tena koe,
 
Thanks for your queries.
 
Regarding your first query, electricity retailers package together and 
pass on to consumers the costs from the other parts of the electricity 
supply chain, which include costs from electricity generation 
(generators), transmission (Transpower), and distribution (distributors, 
like Vector Limited). Along with a retailer’s own charges, these costs
are  shown in the [6]bill the retailer sends you.
 
As to what law permits retailers to package up and pass on these costs; 
this is not so much a matter of statute law, but rather the operation of 
the wholesale and retail electricity markets. In simple terms, retailers
(traders) buy electricity from the wholesale market and sell it to 
consumers and other end-users under contract (the retailer’s terms and 
conditions with each consumer). The [7]Electricity Authority is primarily 
responsible for regulating the wholesale and retail electricity markets.
 
I’m not sure I understand your second query on network securities. If you 
email me with a contact phone number, I could give you a ring at a 
convenient time to clarify and respond to it?
 
Kind regards,
 
Jude
 
 
Jude Murdoch ([8]him)
Legal Counsel
<< OLE Object: Picture Commerce Commission | Te Komihana Tauhokohoko 
(Device Independent Bitmap) 44 The Terrace | PO Box 2351 | Wellington  >>
6140 | New Zealand  DDI +64 4 924 3612|  [9][email address
[10][7]www.comcom.govt.nz
 
 
 
 
 
 
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