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Maori Health Authority vs Human Rights Article 25

Micky Turner made this Official Information request to Andrew Little

Andrew Little did not have the information requested.

From: Micky Turner

Dear Andrew Little,

Can you please forward all information held by the Government which details how your proposed Maori Health Authority - will comply with New Zealand's obligations under local & international law to provide 'everyone' with adequate health and medical care?

It is concerning that we have people in New Zealand who can not afford to visit the doctors or pay for their prescriptions. Surely the scope of any new authority worth investing in - should be broad enough to cover the interests of 'all' impoverished people?

While a specific race based authority is compliant with section 19(2) of the Bill of Rights Act - it would be discriminatory to not also create a similar authority for all other races.

It is a misnomer and an offensive racial stereotype to suggest that 'all Maori' are disadvantaged. The Bill of Rights indicates that a Maori Health Authority should not provide greater access to health services for Maori people who are affluent (i.e. not disadvantaged). It would only be able to assist affluent people with services for which they are genetically predisposed.

New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990
Non-discrimination and minority rights
19 Freedom from discrimination
(2) Measures taken in good faith for the purpose of assisting or advancing persons or groups of persons disadvantaged because of discrimination that is unlawful by virtue of Part 2 of the Human Rights Act 1993 do not constitute discrimination.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publ...

Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 25
Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal...

Please forward all emails & discussions on record, as well as all research carried out by your Government on this subject.

Kindest regards -

Micky Turner
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Andrew Little

Tçnâ koe

 

 

Thank you for contacting the office of Hon Andrew Little MP, Minister of
Health, Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, Minister Responsible
for the NZSIS, Minister Responsible for the GCSB and Minister Responsible
for Pike River Re-entry.

 

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Ngâ mihi

 

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From: Micky Turner

Hi Andrew,

I should say - I'm not sure if a specific race based authority is compliant with section 19(2) of the Bill of Rights Act - or even the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

I'm sure you have done due diligence on researching the overlap of these laws with everyone's right to equal access to health care.

Look forward to seeing the information.

Cheers - Micky

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Dear Andrew Little,

Tomorrow is the deadline for this request.

As mentioned in a separate email - New Zealand is a signatory to the:
International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalint...

As advised - the CERD confirms that any special race based priorities must be based on 'need' and cannot remain in place indefinitely.
(I won't charge for this)

Given the Labour party's lack of practicality - I will assume there has never been any effort made to ensure your policies comply with New Zealand's obligations under international law.

Also due to the Labour party's lack of transparency - I will assume that if any effort was made - the information will never be released to the public.

It seems this particular majority government - does not feel the need to comply with the official information act.

On this basis I will withdraw the request.

Yours faithfully,

Micky Turner

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Andrew Little

Tēnā koe

As per your email of 26 May 2021, our office will now withdraw your request and it will no longer be processed.

Ngā mihi

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Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email [Andrew Little request email] | Web beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand

Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand

-----Original Message-----
From: Micky Turner [mailto:[FOI #15300 email]]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 3:16 PM
To: A Little Office (MIN) <[Andrew Little request email]>
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Maori Health Authority vs Human Rights Article 25

Dear Andrew Little,

Tomorrow is the deadline for this request.

As mentioned in a separate email - New Zealand is a signatory to the:
International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalint...

As advised - the CERD confirms that any special race based priorities must be based on 'need' and cannot remain in place indefinitely.
(I won't charge for this)

Given the Labour party's lack of practicality - I will assume there has never been any effort made to ensure your policies comply with New Zealand's obligations under international law.

Also due to the Labour party's lack of transparency - I will assume that if any effort was made - the information will never be released to the public.

It seems this particular majority government - does not feel the need to comply with the official information act.

On this basis I will withdraw the request.

Yours faithfully,

Micky Turner

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Tçnâ koe

Thank you for contacting the office of Hon Andrew Little MP, Minister of Health, Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, Minister Responsible for the NZSIS, Minister Responsible for the GCSB and Minister Responsible for Pike River Re-entry.

Minister Little receives a significant volume of correspondence:

· If your message is for Minister Little’s advice, or if you have copied your email to another Minister and/or Member of Parliament with more appropriate portfolio responsibilities, then this will be noted,

· If you have invited Minister Little to an event then a member of staff may contact you for more information if the Minister’s attendance might be possible,

· If you have made a request for official information then this will be managed in accordance with the provisions of the Official Information Act 1982, which may include transfer to a more relevant Minister or agency,

· If you have made a request under the Privacy Act then this will be managed in accordance with the principles of the Privacy Act 1993, which may include transfer to a more relevant Minister or agency,

· If you are a journalist then your request will be triaged by a press secretary,

· To find out more about Minister Little read his [1]biography or recent [2]statements.

Ngâ mihi

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP
Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email [Andrew Little request email] | Web [3]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New Zealand

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From: Micky Turner

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

As your office has never requested a time extension - your email of 26 May 2021 implies the information has already been collected and will be made available to me in accordance with the timeframe setout by the OIA.

The request is now reinstated and I look forward to seeing the information sometime tomorrow.

Yours sincerely,

Micky Turner

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Andrew Little

Kia ora

Under section 15A of the Act the time limit for your request has been extended by an additional 20 working days. A response to your request is now due by 28 June 2021.

The extension is required because consultations are needed before a decision can be made on your request. Despite the extension, a response will be sent to you as soon as possible.

You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to investigate and review the decision under section 28(3) of the Act.

Ngā mihi

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-----Original Message-----
From: Micky Turner [mailto:[FOI #15300 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:59 PM
To: A Little Office (MIN) <[Andrew Little request email]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Maori Health Authority vs Human Rights Article 25

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

As your office has never requested a time extension - your email of 26 May 2021 implies the information has already been collected and will be made available to me in accordance with the timeframe setout by the OIA.

The request is now reinstated and I look forward to seeing the information sometime tomorrow.

Yours sincerely,

Micky Turner

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Tēnā koe

As per your email of 26 May 2021, our office will now withdraw your request and it will no longer be processed.

Ngā mihi

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From: Micky Turner

Hi Andrew,

I would just to like further set out my concerns about the dangers of blanket prioritization and how it will inevitably lead to discrimination.

The push seems to be coming from a widespread belief that 'all' Maori are poor and live in squalid conditions - therefore all Maori should receive priority when it comes to healthcare. On this basis the Labour government appear to be wanting to roll out blanket race based prioritization and the Ministry of Health appear to be on board with this. A report from RNZ indicates the government's Covid 19 Immunisation Implementation Advisory Group was effectively stacked with people who would help achieve this outcome:

"To achieve equity, the Ministry of Health is designing a service that provides for groups the system has often failed to reach, such as Māori in remote rural areas."
Five of the 12 members on the Implementation Advisory Group are Māori including Te Puea Winiata, Nicky Birch, Taima Campbell, Kevin Pewhairangi and Dr Rawiri Jansen, who were chosen by the Director-General
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korih...

In another report your Associate health minister Peeni Henare said the structure was already in place to be able to vaccinate vulnerable whānau, to "prioritise kaumātua, kuia, we've carved out provision there for Māori".
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/439...

There appears to be evidence that blanket prioritization of the vaccine is already occurring and prioritization is being given regardless of a persons individual health & lifestyle circumstances. This seems to be having a dangerous impact on people who likely should have been prioritized ahead of at least some of the people the Labour government appear to be giving blanket prioritization to.

The reality is a lot of Maori have good jobs and live in nice homes, with nice cars - can afford to go to a doctor and can even afford expensive cosmetic treatments (hairstyling, botox etc) if they so choose.

The below comments from a recent Twitter thread from Shane te Pou potentially gives us an insight into how the Labour party's blanket prioritization policy seems to be working now and what we can expect in the future in other areas of health as the health system gets stretched. (https://twitter.com/PouTepou/status/1402...)

[Shane te Pou is 52, is an Anti-Apartheid Activist and describes himself as 'a privileged bungalow-dweller living in Epsom'.]

Twitter thread comments:

Shane te Pou -
So I got an email for my vaccination. Registered I have a date and got confirmation via text and email. Pretty efficient if you ask me.

Mark Hubbard -
I don’t know a single person whose had an invite for vax, and my circle is 60 year olds plus: so how did you get that? coz a govt friendly commentator?

Shane te Pou -
I don’t think so . I was in hospital not that long ago maybe that’s why . I know 3 people that have been vaccinated they are all under 60

lesleycubawelly -
Well, my partner is 60 and has leukaemia and he has not been offered it, so guess you won the DHB lottery

Shane te Pou -
If I could I would give my spot to your partner. :(

kiwiBOP -
Both my parents are in their late 70’s, both are under treatment for different cancers and neither have had a vaccination or been contacted. Sounds like b grade celebrity privilege

Gwynn Compton -
Yet my Dad, who’s 76, has only 1 partially working lung, diabetes, and heart disease, and nearly died in 2019 from a chest infection, still waits for any of that. Not very efficient at all. 😡

adam smith -
Similarly, I have a heart valve problem, atrial fibrillation, diabetes type 2 and am over 70 have heard nothing

Scott Evans -
Mum is 70, had four major ops that have involved the lung, bowel and breast. Not even an email update....

Dita Puzzolente -
Completely agree. Only 1 kidney here and it does bugger all; atrial fibrillation; hypertension plus plus. No word from the very sleepy Waitemata DHB, yet the Cheerleader, 0.6 my age, gets jabbed by the end of June. Seems some are more equal than others. Call this roll out a plan?
Dita Puzzolente -
WOW. That is a really serious omission, but it’s just like my 90 yo mum - not a whisper from her local Dormant Hospital Board. Is it too much to ask that JA and her govt will deliver something on time and fully in the course of this unhampered premiership?

Broken -
Agree. My 86 yo father with emphasima still waiting for contact. Certainly appears to be unequal access

Jenny -
My dad is 86, has cancer, just been in hospital with heart issues, no sign of vaccine. Is it just going slow?

Cheers - Micky

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From: Micky Turner

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

Just a reminder a response to this request was promised by 28 June 2021.

Cheers - Micky Turner

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Kia ora Micky Turner,

 

Please find attached a response to your request for official information
from Hon Andrew Little, Minister of Health.  Apologies for the delay in
providing this to you.

 

Ngâ mihi nui,

Office of Andrew Little MP

 

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP
Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email
[1][Andrew Little request email] | Web [2]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost
Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New
Zealand

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Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’
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From: Micky Turner

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

Thank you for your response. Excuse my naivety - at the time I made the request - I was not aware that the most transparent Government ever does everything it can, including pointing to specific wording - to refuse providing information on contentious issues.

I'm sure your lawyer mates probably think they are very clever (hate to think what you paid them to come up with your letter).

I will refine the request:

1. Please forward all information held by the Government which details how your proposed Maori Health Authority - will comply with New Zealand's obligations under local & international law

- Micky Turner

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From: Micky Turner

Dear Andrew Little,

Your letter states:
"section 19 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act, which also provides that action taken to assist disadvantaged groups does not constitute unlawful discrimination"

I have been very clear in saying that I believe only Maori who are not financially well off - meet the commonly accepted description and meaning of 'disadvantaged'. If the transparent Labour Government holds evidence which proves otherwise - it will have no issue including that in the information.

Your Government has pointed to obligations under the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) - as the reason for establishing a separate Maori Health Authority.

However New Zealand is also signatory to the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalint...

Of particular interest is Article 1 (4):
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4. Special measures taken for the sole purpose of securing adequate advancement of certain racial or ethnic groups or individuals requiring such protection as may be necessary in order to ensure such groups or individuals equal enjoyment or exercise of human rights and fundamental freedoms shall not be deemed racial discrimination, provided, however, that such measures do not, as a consequence, lead to the maintenance of separate rights for different racial groups and that they shall not be continued after the objectives for which they were taken have been achieved.
___________________________________________________________________________________

- Micky Turner

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Kia ora Micky Turner,

 

Thank you for your email received on 1 July 2021 in response to your
previous request in which you submitted a further Official Information Act
request to the Hon Andrew Little, Minister of Health:

 

“Please forward all information held by the Government which details how
your proposed Maori Health Authority - will comply with New Zealand's
obligations under local & international law”

 

Pursuant to section 15 (1) of the Act we will endeavour to respond to your
request as soon as possible, and no later than 30 July 2021 being 20
working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to
respond to your request within this timeframe, we will notify you of an
extension of that timeframe.

 

If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to
get in touch.

 

Ngā mihi nui,

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

 

 

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From: Micky Turner
[[9]mailto:[FOI #15300 email]]

Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2021 10:22 AM

To: A Little Office (MIN) <[10][Andrew Little request email]>

Subject: Re: OIA Request

 

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

 

Thank you for your response. Excuse my naivety - at the time I made the
request - I was not aware that the most transparent Government ever does
everything it can, including pointing to specific wording - to refuse
providing information on contentious issues.

 

I'm sure your lawyer mates probably think they are very clever (hate to
think what you paid them to come up with your letter).

 

I will refine the request:

 

1. Please forward all information held by the Government which details how
your proposed Maori Health Authority - will comply with New Zealand's
obligations under local & international law

 

- Micky Turner

 

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Kia ora Micky Turner,

 

 

 

Please find attached a response to your request for official information 
from Hon Andrew Little, Minister of Health.  Apologies for the delay in 
providing this to you.

 

 

 

Ngâ mihi nui,

 

Office of Andrew Little MP

 

 

 

 

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email  [1][Andrew Little request
email] | Web [2]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost  Parliament, Private Bag
18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New  Zealand

 

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Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’

portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal
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list:

date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the 
meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the 
Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will 
be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet 
with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be 
released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a 
private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the 
provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy 
considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for
a  copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it
to  be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy
of  your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the 
release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the 
sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at 
[8][12]https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

 

Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington
6160,  New Zealand

 

 

 

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From: Micky Turner

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

Thank you - it was actually a 'refinement' of a request - not a new request.

Your office has spent the last 60 days working out how it could weasel out of my OIA request.

In the interests of transparency - I would hope to see the information I have requested by next Friday.

Kindest regards -

Micky Turner

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Kia ora Micky Turner,

 

Thank you for your email. As advised, we consider your request of 1 July
2021 to be a new request for information because we have provided you with
a decision on your original request. 

 

As noted in our email of 1 July, we will respond to your new request
pursuant to section 15 (1) of the Act and we will endeavour to respond to
your request as soon as possible, and no later than 30 July 2021 being 20 
working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to
respond to your request within this timeframe, we will notify you of an
extension of that timeframe.

 

You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to investigate and review my
decision under section 28(3) of the Act.

 

Ngâ mihi nui,

Office of Andrew Little MP

 

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Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160,
New Zealand

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Micky Turner
[[9]mailto:[FOI #15300 email]]

Sent: Friday, 2 July 2021 9:33 AM

To: A Little Office (MIN) <[10][Andrew Little request email]>

Subject: Re: OIA Request

 

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

 

Thank you - it was actually a 'refinement' of a request - not a new
request.

 

Your office has spent the last 60 days working out how it could weasel out
of my OIA request.

 

In the interests of transparency - I would hope to see the information I
have requested by next Friday.

 

Kindest regards -

 

Micky Turner

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Kia ora Micky Turner,

 

 

 

Thank you for your email received on 1 July 2021 in response to your 
previous request in which you submitted a further Official Information
Act  request to the Hon Andrew Little, Minister of Health:

 

 

 

“Please forward all information held by the Government which details how 
your proposed Maori Health Authority - will comply with New Zealand's 
obligations under local & international law”

 

 

 

Pursuant to section 15 (1) of the Act we will endeavour to respond to
your  request as soon as possible, and no later than 30 July 2021 being
20  working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable
to  respond to your request within this timeframe, we will notify you of
an  extension of that timeframe.

 

 

 

If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate
to  get in touch.

 

 

 

Ngâ mihi nui,

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

 

 

 

 

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email  [1][Andrew Little request
email] | Web [2]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost  Parliament, Private Bag
18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New  Zealand

 

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Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’

portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal
or  constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would
list:

date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the 
meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the 
Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will 
be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet 
with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be 
released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a 
private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the 
provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy 
considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for
a  copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it
to  be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy
of  your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the 
release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the 
sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at 
[8][12]https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

 

Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington
6160,  New Zealand

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Micky Turner

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

Your letter stated:
"I have refused your request under section 18( e) of the Act"

Given that you were the Justice Minister for 3 years - you will be aware of the law:

Official Information Act 1982
18B Duty to consider consulting person if request likely to be refused under section 18(e) or (f)
If a request is likely to be refused under section 18(e) or (f), the department or interdepartmental venture, Minister of the Crown, or organisation must, before that request is refused, consider whether consulting with the person who made the request would assist that person to make the request in a form that would remove the reason for the refusal.

Please forward the following information:
1. Any written evidence in relation to the 'previous' request made - discussing the consideration of consulting with me (include emails from consultants etc)

2. The cost of consultants or lawyers engaged to work on the previous request

- Micky Turner

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Kia ora Micky Turner

 

Thank you for your email received 2 July 2021 in which you submitted an
additional Official Information Act request to the Hon Andrew Little,
Minister of Health.

 

“….1. Any written evidence in relation to the 'previous' request made -
discussing the consideration of consulting with me (include emails from
consultants etc)   2. The cost of consultants or lawyers engaged to work
on the previous request”

 

Pursuant to section 15 (1) of the Act we will endeavour to respond to your
request as soon as possible, and no later than 2 August 2021 being 20
working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to
respond to your request within this timeframe, we will notify you of an
extension of that timeframe.

 

If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to
get in touch.

 

Ngā mihi nui

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

 

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP
Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email
[1][Andrew Little request email] | Web [2]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost
Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New
Zealand

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Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’
portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or
constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list:
date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the
meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the
Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will
be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet
with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be
released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a
private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the
provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy
considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a
copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to
be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of
your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the
release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the
sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at
[8]https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160,
New Zealand

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Micky Turner
[[9]mailto:[FOI #15300 email]]

Sent: Friday, 2 July 2021 12:32 PM

To: A Little Office (MIN) <[10][Andrew Little request email]>

Subject: Re: OIA Request

 

Dear A Little Office (MIN),

 

Your letter stated:

"I have refused your request under section 18( e) of the Act"

 

Given that you were the Justice Minister for 3 years - you will be aware
of the law:

 

Official Information Act 1982

18B Duty to consider consulting person if request likely to be refused
under section 18(e) or (f) If a request is likely to be refused under
section 18(e) or (f), the department or interdepartmental venture,
Minister of the Crown, or organisation must, before that request is
refused, consider whether consulting with the person who made the request
would assist that person to make the request in a form that would remove
the reason for the refusal.

 

Please forward the following information:

1. Any written evidence in relation to the 'previous' request made -
discussing the consideration of consulting with me (include emails from
consultants etc)

 

2. The cost of consultants or lawyers engaged to work on the previous
request

 

- Micky Turner

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Kia ora Micky Turner,

 

 

 

Thank you for your email. As advised, we consider your request of 1 July

2021 to be a new request for information because we have provided you
with  a decision on your original request. 

 

 

 

As noted in our email of 1 July, we will respond to your new request 
pursuant to section 15 (1) of the Act and we will endeavour to respond to 
your request as soon as possible, and no later than 30 July 2021 being 20 
working days after the day your request was received. If we are unable to 
respond to your request within this timeframe, we will notify you of an 
extension of that timeframe.

 

 

 

You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to investigate and review my 
decision under section 28(3) of the Act.

 

 

 

Ngâ mihi nui,

 

Office of Andrew Little MP

 

 

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email  [1][Andrew Little request
email] | Web [2]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost  Parliament, Private Bag
18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New  Zealand

 

[3][11]https://xink.io/wp-content/themes/Xink/a...

 

Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’

portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal
or  constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would
list:

date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the 
meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the 
Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will 
be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet 
with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be 
released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a 
private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the 
provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy 
considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for
a  copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it
to  be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy
of  your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the 
release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the 
sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at 
[8][12]https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

 

Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington
6160,  New Zealand

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear A Little Office (MIN),

Please also include the name of the law firm and the individual lawyers who have worked on consultation for/blocking this request.

- Micky Turner

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Kia ora Micky Turner,

 

Please find attached a response to your request for official information
from Hon Andrew Little, Minister of Health.

 

Ngâ mihi nui,

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

 

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP
Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email
[1][Andrew Little request email] | Web [2]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost
Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New
Zealand

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Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’
portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or
constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list:
date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the
meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the
Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will
be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet
with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be
released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a
private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the
provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy
considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a
copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to
be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of
your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the
release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the
sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at
[8]https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160,
New Zealand

 

 

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Please find attached a response to your request for official information
from Hon Andrew Little, Minister of Health.

 

Ngâ mihi nui,

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP

 

 

Office of Hon Andrew Little MP
Reception +64 4 817 8707 | Ministerial Email
[1][Andrew Little request email] | Web [2]beehive.govt.nz | Postal Freepost
Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160, New
Zealand

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Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’
portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or
constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list:
date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the
meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the
Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will
be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet
with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be
released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a
private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the
provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy
considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a
copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to
be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of
your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the
release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the
sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at
[8]https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...

Authorised by Hon Andrew Little MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160,
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Virginia Crawford left an annotation ()

Since the two "links" couldn't be clicked or copy/pasted (as so often happens with FOI requests), I've laboriously managed to find one of them, as follows:

https://dpmc.govt.nz/sites/default/files...

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From: Micky Turner

Dear Andrew Little,

Thank you for your response to this request:

"1. Please forward all information held by the Government which details how your proposed Maori Health Authority - will comply with New Zealand's obligations under local & international law."

Your response confirms that NO WORK has been undertaken to ensure the proposed Health Authority will comply with obligations under local & international law (this will be an afterthought).

ANDREW LITTLE (response):
"The changes to the health system operating model will require legislation to restructure the public owned health and disability system. This will include provisions to establish new entities, including the Authority and disestablish others. The legislation to enact the new entitles will be the subject of a detailed examination by the Ministry of Justice for compatibility and compliance with relevant legislation before it is introduced the House."

To my knowledge there has also been no public consultation on your proposed authority. The documents you have forwarded indicate all decisions have been made by what is referred to as the 'Social Wellbeing Committee'. This appears to be the Social Wellbeing Committee:

Committee chair:
Hon Carmel Sepuloni
Other members:
Rt Hon Jacinda Ardern
Hon Grant Robertson
Hon Kelvin Davis
Hon Dr Megan Woods
Hon Chris Hipkins (Deputy Chair)
Hon Andrew Little
Hon Poto Williams
Hon Damien O'Connor
Hon Kris Faafoi
Hon Peeni Henare
Hon Willie Jackson
Hon Jan Tinetti
Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall
Hon Aupito William Sio
Hon Meka Whaitiri
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan
https://dpmc.govt.nz/cabinet-committees/...

Quite the diverse range of views & opinions there I'm sure. Very democratic.

It would be tragic if a person were to die because they were bumped down a list due to another person being prioritized based on race without sound evidential reasoning. Even more tragic if children end up being affected by ludicrous and ill thought through government health policies.

Given the increasing strain the health system is under - it will only be a matter of time before these issues start appearing if we do not have an ethically sound system -

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/exclusive-...

Certainly there are already concerns that the Labour Government are more than happy to give health prioritization to people based purely on their political affiliation -

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politic...

Kindest regards - Micky Turner

Thank you to Virginia Crawford for creating this link:
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The other link is:
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Many thanks to Micky Turner for providing the other link.

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Things to do with this request

Anyone:
Andrew Little only: