Kindergarten
james lochead-macmillan made this Official Information request to Public Service Commission
Public Service Commission did not have the information requested.
From: james lochead-macmillan
Dear State Services Commission,
Good morning, I writing to ask that despite Kindergarten not being run by the Ministry of education and I can't find any trace of Kindergarten on your list of State sector employees " Central Government Agencies as at 12 December 2019".
Can I please request all documents held that are associated with the claim Kindergarten teachers, can be classified as State sector Employees?
Yours faithfully,
james lochead-macmillan
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Dear Mr Lochead-Macmillan
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-----Original Message-----
From: james lochead-macmillan
<[FOI #12029 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2020 9:24 AM
To: SSC Enquiries <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Kindergarten
Dear State Services Commission,
Good morning, I writing to ask that despite Kindergarten not being run by
the Ministry of education and I can't find any trace of Kindergarten on
your list of State sector employees " Central Government Agencies as at 12
December 2019".
Can I please request all documents held that are associated with the claim
Kindergarten teachers, can be classified as State sector Employees?
Yours faithfully,
james lochead-macmillan
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From: SSC Enquiries
Dear Mr Lochead-Macmillan
We have interpreted your question to be that you are enquiring whether
kindergarten teachers are classified as state sector employees.
Those working as a registered teacher in the employment of any free
kindergarten association that controls a free kindergarten within the
meaning of [1]section 120 of the Education Act 1989 is defined as part of
the Education Services. This is outlined in section 2 of the State Sector
Act which can be found at the following link:
[2]http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/19....
If this doesn’t answer your request, please could you provide more
specific information regarding the documents you are after.
Kind regards
SSC Enquiries
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-----Original Message-----
From: james lochead-macmillan
<[FOI #12029 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2020 9:24 AM
To: SSC Enquiries <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - Kindergarten
Dear State Services Commission,
Good morning, I writing to ask that despite Kindergarten not being run by
the Ministry of education and I can't find any trace of Kindergarten on
your list of State sector employees " Central Government Agencies as at 12
December 2019".
Can I please request all documents held that are associated with the claim
Kindergarten teachers, can be classified as State sector Employees?
Yours faithfully,
james lochead-macmillan
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From: james lochead-macmillan
Dear SSC Enquiries,
Thankyou, but the sate services act which you directed me too appears misleading as the section you directed me to, directed me to Section 120 of the education act. which has been repealed. This is a little confusing and Teacher registration is actually required for all ECE services. So my question remains how are Kindergartens classed as a State sector Employer given the acts don't appear to line up.
Part 10
Teacher registration
[Repealed]
Part 10: repealed, on 1 July 2015, by section 6 of the Education Amendment Act 2015 (2015 No 1).
120 Interpretation
[Repealed]
Section 120: repealed, on 1 July 2015, by section 6 of the Education Amendment Act 2015 (2015 No 1).
Could I also ask if you have a definition of what a "Free Kindergarten Association" is?
Also given the different funding to Kindergarten associations, what would be required to set up a new Free Kindergarten Association?
Yours sincerely,
james lochead-macmillan
From: SSC Enquiries
Dear Mr Lochead-Macmillan
Please find the attached SSC correspondence in relation to your OIA
request.
Kind regards
SSC Enquiries
[1][email address]
Te Kawa Mataaho | State Services [4][IMG][5][IMG][6][IMG] [7][IMG]
Commission
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-----Original Message-----
From: james lochead-macmillan
<[FOI #12029 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2020 11:10 PM
To: SSC Enquiries <[email address]>
Subject: Re: SSCOIA 2020-0005 - SEEKING CLARIFICATION
Dear SSC Enquiries,
Thankyou, but the sate services act which you directed me too appears
misleading as the section you directed me to, directed me to Section 120
of the education act. which has been repealed. This is a little confusing
and Teacher registration is actually required for all ECE services. So my
question remains how are Kindergartens classed as a State sector Employer
given the acts don't appear to line up.
Part 10
Teacher registration
[Repealed]
Part 10: repealed, on 1 July 2015, by section 6 of the Education Amendment
Act 2015 (2015 No 1).
120 Interpretation
[Repealed]
Section 120: repealed, on 1 July 2015, by section 6 of the Education
Amendment Act 2015 (2015 No 1).
Could I also ask if you have a definition of what a "Free Kindergarten
Association" is?
Also given the different funding to Kindergarten associations, what would
be required to set up a new Free Kindergarten Association?
Yours sincerely,
james lochead-macmillan
-----Original Message-----
Dear Mr Lochead-Macmillan
We have interpreted your question to be that you are enquiring whether
kindergarten teachers are classified as state sector employees.
Those working as a registered teacher in the employment of any free
kindergarten association that controls a free kindergarten within the
meaning of [1]section 120 of the Education Act 1989 is defined as part of
the Education Services. This is outlined in section 2 of the State
Sector Act which can be found at the following link:
[2][8]http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/19....
If this doesn’t answer your request, please could you provide more
specific information regarding the documents you are after.
Kind regards
SSC Enquiries
[3][email address]
[4][9]cid:image004.png@01D505B3.D46B8A00
Te Kawa Mataaho |
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State Services
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From: Enquiries National
Dear James,
Thank you for your request for information below, which was transferred
from the SSC on the 29^th January 2020. The Ministry will consider and
respond to your request in accordance with the Official Information Act
1982 (the Act).
• Could I also ask if you have a definition of what a "Free Kindergarten
Association" is?
• Also given the different funding to Kindergarten associations, what
would be required to set up a new Free Kindergarten Association?
The Act allows up to 20 working days for a response, making 27th^h
February 2020 the latest date for our response to you. If more than 20
working days are needed due to the potential workload involved in
answering your request, we will notify you accordingly.
Please note, the Ministry may publicly release on our website the response
to your request five days after you have received it. Any personal
information will be removed.
In the interim, if you have any questions about your request, please email
[1][email address].
Kind regards,
Enquiries National Team | Ministry of Education | GH
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We shape an education system that delivers equitable and excellent
outcomes
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Dear Mr Lochead-MacMillan
Please find attached our reply to your OIA below.
Kind regards
SSC Enquiries
[1][email address]
Te Kawa Mataaho | State Services [4][IMG][5][IMG][6][IMG] [7][IMG]
Commission
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-----Original Message-----
From: james lochead-macmillan
<[FOI #12029 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2020 11:10 PM
To: SSC Enquiries <[email address]>
Subject: Re: SSCOIA 2020-0005 - SEEKING CLARIFICATION
Dear SSC Enquiries,
Thankyou, but the sate services act which you directed me too appears
misleading as the section you directed me to, directed me to Section 120
of the education act. which has been repealed. This is a little confusing
and Teacher registration is actually required for all ECE services. So my
question remains how are Kindergartens classed as a State sector Employer
given the acts don't appear to line up.
Part 10
Teacher registration
[Repealed]
Part 10: repealed, on 1 July 2015, by section 6 of the Education Amendment
Act 2015 (2015 No 1).
120 Interpretation
[Repealed]
Section 120: repealed, on 1 July 2015, by section 6 of the Education
Amendment Act 2015 (2015 No 1).
Could I also ask if you have a definition of what a "Free Kindergarten
Association" is?
Also given the different funding to Kindergarten associations, what would
be required to set up a new Free Kindergarten Association?
Yours sincerely,
james lochead-macmillan
-----Original Message-----
Dear Mr Lochead-Macmillan
We have interpreted your question to be that you are enquiring whether
kindergarten teachers are classified as state sector employees.
Those working as a registered teacher in the employment of any free
kindergarten association that controls a free kindergarten within the
meaning of [1]section 120 of the Education Act 1989 is defined as part of
the Education Services. This is outlined in section 2 of the State
Sector Act which can be found at the following link:
[2][8]http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/19....
If this doesn’t answer your request, please could you provide more
specific information regarding the documents you are after.
Kind regards
SSC Enquiries
[3][email address]
[4][9]cid:image004.png@01D505B3.D46B8A00
Te Kawa Mataaho |
[7][10]cid:image002.png@01D50594.2B40E6B0[8]cid:image004.png@01D50594.2B40E6B0[9]cid:image006.png@01D50594.2B40E6B0 [10][11]cid:image008.png@01D50594.2B40E6B0
State Services
Commission
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