Abandoned Land Tender Process
G Christian made this Official Information request to Ruapehu District Council
The request was refused by Ruapehu District Council.
From: G Christian
Dear Ruapehu District Council,
What were the reserves on last months abandoned land tender process [all sections]. And what if any prices were accepted by RDC for any tenders accepted.
Yours faithfully,
Guy Hollister
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Guy
An interesting website you run.
We do not generally reveal what the reserves on the properties were.
This is for a variety of reasons , probably mostly because they change
from time to time and we do not want to set false expectations.
There is a press release on the topic of the RDC website. At the present
time we have accepted 19 offers. Ie 4 properties remain unsold for a
variety of reasons.
The average price was just over $8,000
It takes around 2 months to finalise the sale and purchase.
The information around the prices will become public in about 3 months
after the transactions have been finalised.
-----Original Message-----
From: Annette Froggatt
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 10:00 a.m.
To: Cook Te Wano; Peter Till
Subject: FW: Local Government Official Information and Meetings request:
Abandoned Land Tender Process
-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Hollister [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 9:26 a.m.
To: Info
Subject: Local Government Official Information and Meetings request:
Abandoned Land Tender Process
Dear Ruapehu District Council,
What were the reserves on last months abandoned land tender process
[all sections]. And what if any prices were accepted by RDC for any
tenders accepted.
Yours faithfully,
Guy Hollister
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From: G Christian
Dear FYI Requests,
I'm not aware that you will know any of the websites that I run.
I know you do not reveal them, which is precisely why I used this process - to get that information.
As soon as the sales become final the data will be in the public domain anyway. So the reluctance to release it puzzles me.
Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister
From: FYI Requests
Happy to send copies of the aggregate data
(some of) Your websites were attached to your email
From: FYI Requests [mailto:[1][FYI contact email]]
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 4:17 p.m.
To: Peter Till
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Local Government Official Information and Meetings
request: Abandoned Land Tender Process
Dear Peter Till,
I'm not aware that you will know any of the websites that I run.
I know you do not reveal them, which is precisely why I used this process
- to get that information.
As soon as the sales become final the data will be in the public domain
anyway. So the reluctance to release it puzzles me.
Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister
-----Original Message-----
Guy
An interesting website you run.
We do not generally reveal what the reserves on the properties
were.
This is for a variety of reasons , probably mostly because they
change
from time to time and we do not want to set false expectations.
There is a press release on the topic of the RDC website. At the
present
time we have accepted 19 offers. Ie 4 properties remain unsold for
a
variety of reasons.
The average price was just over $8,000
It takes around 2 months to finalise the sale and purchase.
The information around the prices will become public in about 3
months
after the transactions have been finalised.
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From: G Christian
Dear FYI Requests,
Yes please.
No websites i run were attached to it so you either think I run FYI or theres a mistake at your end. As no contact information can be viewed in this forum.
Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister
From: FYI Requests
The email I received had some “automatic” attachments generated at this
end – and those are the ones I looked up – it was my mistake.
You are right its public information at the end of the day – but
Right now its subject to detailed negotiation around settlement dates etc
Even at the end of the process it is not all neatly catalogued in the
public domain.
Local Bodies walk a very fine line between the use of electoral and
ownership information vs the individual’s right to privacy.
At this stage I do not believe RDC should release more detailed
information
From: FYI Requests [mailto:[1][FYI contact email]]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 5:04 p.m.
To: Peter Till
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Local Government Official Information and Meetings
request: Abandoned Land Tender Process
Dear Peter Till,
Yes please.
No websites i run were attached to it so you either think I run FYI
or theres a mistake at your end. As no contact information can be
viewed in this forum.
Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister
-----Original Message-----
Happy to send copies of the aggregate data
*
(some of) Your websites were attached to your email
*
From: FYI Requests [mailto:[1][FYI contact email]]
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 4:17 p.m.
To: Peter Till
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Local Government Official Information and
Meetings
request: Abandoned Land Tender Process
*
Dear Peter Till,
I'm not aware that you will know any of the websites that I run.
I know you do not reveal them, which is precisely why I used this
process
- to get that information.
As soon as the sales become final the data will be in the public
domain
anyway. So the reluctance to release it puzzles me.
Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister
* *
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From: G Christian
Dear FYI Requests,
This is an interesting stance, at first you state [happy to supply aggregate data] now you change your mind and tell me you walk a fine line and dont think you should reveal public information.
Contacting the minister for local bodies for Govt. as I now have your name - thankyou.
Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister
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