Abandoned Land Tender Process

G Christian made this Official Information request to Ruapehu District Council

The request was refused by Ruapehu District Council.

From: G Christian

Dear Ruapehu District Council,

What were the reserves on last months abandoned land tender process [all sections]. And what if any prices were accepted by RDC for any tenders accepted.

Yours faithfully,

Guy Hollister

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Guy

An interesting website you run.

We do not generally reveal what the reserves on the properties were.

This is for a variety of reasons , probably mostly because they change
from time to time and we do not want to set false expectations.

There is a press release on the topic of the RDC website. At the present
time we have accepted 19 offers. Ie 4 properties remain unsold for a
variety of reasons.

The average price was just over $8,000

It takes around 2 months to finalise the sale and purchase.
The information around the prices will become public in about 3 months
after the transactions have been finalised.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annette Froggatt
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 10:00 a.m.
To: Cook Te Wano; Peter Till
Subject: FW: Local Government Official Information and Meetings request:
Abandoned Land Tender Process

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Hollister [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 9:26 a.m.
To: Info
Subject: Local Government Official Information and Meetings request:
Abandoned Land Tender Process

    Dear Ruapehu District Council,

    What were the reserves on last months abandoned land tender process
    [all sections]. And what if any prices were accepted by RDC for any
    tenders accepted.

    Yours faithfully,

    Guy Hollister

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From: G Christian

Dear FYI Requests,

I'm not aware that you will know any of the websites that I run.

I know you do not reveal them, which is precisely why I used this process - to get that information.

As soon as the sales become final the data will be in the public domain anyway. So the reluctance to release it puzzles me.

Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister

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Happy to send copies of the aggregate data

 

(some of) Your websites were attached to your email

 

From: FYI Requests [mailto:[1][FYI contact email]]
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 4:17 p.m.
To: Peter Till
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Local Government Official Information and Meetings
request: Abandoned Land Tender Process

 

Dear Peter Till,

I'm not aware that you will know any of the websites that I run.

I know you do not reveal them, which is precisely why I used this process
- to get that information.

As soon as the sales become final the data will be in the public domain
anyway. So the reluctance to release it puzzles me.

Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister

    -----Original Message-----

    Guy

    An interesting website you run.

    We do not generally reveal what the reserves on the properties
    were.

    This is for a variety of reasons , probably mostly because they
    change
    from time to time and we do not want to set false expectations.

    There is a press release on the topic of the RDC website. At the
    present
    time we have accepted 19 offers. Ie 4 properties remain unsold for
    a
    variety of reasons.

    The average price was just over $8,000

    It takes around 2 months to finalise the sale and purchase.
    The information around the prices will become public in about 3
    months
    after the transactions have been finalised.

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From: G Christian

Dear FYI Requests,

Yes please.

No websites i run were attached to it so you either think I run FYI or theres a mistake at your end. As no contact information can be viewed in this forum.

Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister

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The email I received had some “automatic” attachments generated at this
end – and those are the ones I looked up – it was my mistake.

 

You are right its public information at  the end of the day – but

 

Right now its subject to detailed negotiation around settlement dates etc

 

Even at the end of the process it is not all neatly catalogued in the
public domain.

 

Local Bodies walk a very fine line between the use of electoral and
ownership information vs the individual’s right to privacy.

 

At this stage I do not believe RDC should release more detailed
information

 

 

 

From: FYI Requests [mailto:[1][FYI contact email]]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 5:04 p.m.
To: Peter Till
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Local Government Official Information and Meetings
request: Abandoned Land Tender Process

 

Dear Peter Till,

Yes please.

No websites i run were attached to it so you either think I run FYI
or theres a mistake at your end. As no contact information can be
viewed in this forum.

Yours sincerely,
Guy Hollister

    -----Original Message-----

    Happy to send copies of the aggregate data

    *

    (some of) Your websites were attached to your email

    *

    From: FYI Requests [mailto:[1][FYI contact email]]
    Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 4:17 p.m.
    To: Peter Till
    Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Local Government Official Information and
    Meetings
    request: Abandoned Land Tender Process

    *

    Dear Peter Till,

    I'm not aware that you will know any of the websites that I run.

    I know you do not reveal them, which is precisely why I used this
    process
    - to get that information.

    As soon as the sales become final the data will be in the public
    domain
    anyway. So the reluctance to release it puzzles me.

    Yours sincerely,
    Guy Hollister

    * *

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From: G Christian

Dear FYI Requests,

This is an interesting stance, at first you state [happy to supply aggregate data] now you change your mind and tell me you walk a fine line and dont think you should reveal public information.

Contacting the minister for local bodies for Govt. as I now have your name - thankyou.

Yours sincerely,

Guy Hollister

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