Number of Clients Foreged Documents Used Against.
Gregory Soar made this Official Information request to Ministry of Social Development
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From: Gregory Soar
Dear Ministry of Social Development,
I have written confirmation Brendon Boyle CEO MSD WINZ used and uses forged letters ( as defined by Crimes Act 1961 ss 255 - 259) against some clients.
1. How many clients have had forged documents, as defined by the above Act, used against them?
2. Have all clients who have had forged documents used against them been so advised that documents were forgeries as defined by the above Act?
3. Does the MSD consider such treatment ( unilateral decree of an action by client unchecked, unilateral decree that rights must be removed without any hearing or self defence option by client, unilateral decision to prevent communication with Benefit Review Committee hearings, unilateral decree of removal of lawful services ) to be a violation of our Bill of Rights Act 1990 s 9 “disproportionately severe treatment” because even murderers have a chance to defend their actions before being judged and punished but not in these cases?
4. What is done to alleviate or avoid any mental health issues caused for clients by use of disproportionately severe treatment and illegal forgeries leading to client having to sign declarations of honesty for a CEO Boylewhouses deceipt and criminal activity in return?
5. Does the MSD agree that using criminal activity against clients leads to a safer work environment in any way, anyand all supporting information used by MSD WINZ insetting upthe forgery system?
6. What safety checks does WINZ MSD have in place to protect clients from false inputs such as staff lies aboutactions etc. what standard of proof is required by MSD WINZ before such disproportionatley severe treatment by removal of rights actually happens? Usually a person has Court rulings before such severe and disproportionate removal of rights thus treatments!
7. Why does MSD WINZ continue Judicially ruled ( Social Security Appeal Authority ) actions that are criminally prohibited?
8. What legislation permits MSD WINZ use of forgeries sa defined by the Crimes Act 1961 as above?
9. Why does WINZ MSD continue illegal actions knowing it causes mental health issues for clients?
10. Does MSD WINZ understand the harms being caused to clients by illegal actions?
11. Does MSD WINZ understand it has a duty of care to clients as much as staff and if sohow does that fit with the forgery system currently in use as required by Boyle?
Yours faithfully,
Gregory Soar
From: Info (MSD)
Ministry of Social Development
Tēnā koe Mr Soar
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This has been referred to officials within the Ministry of Social Development. You can expect a response to your concerns in due course (usually within 15 working days, depending on volumes of correspondence).
Yours sincerely
Ministerial & Executive Services
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From: Gregory Soar [mailto:[FYI request #8579 email]]
Sent: Friday, 31 August 2018 7:12 a.m.
To: OIA_Requests (MSD)
Subject: Official Information request - Number of Clients Foreged Documents Used Against.
Dear Ministry of Social Development,
I have written confirmation Brendon Boyle CEO MSD WINZ used and uses forged letters ( as defined by Crimes Act 1961 ss 255 - 259) against some clients.
1. How many clients have had forged documents, as defined by the above Act, used against them?
2. Have all clients who have had forged documents used against them been so advised that documents were forgeries as defined by the above Act?
3. Does the MSD consider such treatment ( unilateral decree of an action by client unchecked, unilateral decree that rights must be removed without any hearing or self defence option by client, unilateral decision to prevent communication with Benefit Review Committee hearings, unilateral decree of removal of lawful services ) to be a violation of our Bill of Rights Act 1990 s 9 “disproportionately severe treatment” because even murderers have a chance to defend their actions before being judged and punished but not in these cases?
4. What is done to alleviate or avoid any mental health issues caused for clients by use of disproportionately severe treatment and illegal forgeries leading to client having to sign declarations of honesty for a CEO Boylewhouses deceipt and criminal activity in return?
5. Does the MSD agree that using criminal activity against clients leads to a safer work environment in any way, anyand all supporting information used by MSD WINZ insetting upthe forgery system?
6. What safety checks does WINZ MSD have in place to protect clients from false inputs such as staff lies aboutactions etc. what standard of proof is required by MSD WINZ before such disproportionatley severe treatment by removal of rights actually happens? Usually a person has Court rulings before such severe and disproportionate removal of rights thus treatments!
7. Why does MSD WINZ continue Judicially ruled ( Social Security Appeal Authority ) actions that are criminally prohibited?
8. What legislation permits MSD WINZ use of forgeries sa defined by the Crimes Act 1961 as above?
9. Why does WINZ MSD continue illegal actions knowing it causes mental health issues for clients?
10. Does MSD WINZ understand the harms being caused to clients by illegal actions?
11. Does MSD WINZ understand it has a duty of care to clients as much as staff and if sohow does that fit with the forgery system currently in use as required by Boyle?
Yours faithfully,
Gregory Soar
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From: Info (MSD)
Ministry of Social Development
Dear Mr Soar
Attached is the reply to your email of 31 August 2018.
Yours sincerely
[email address]
Ministerial and Executive Services
Ministry of Social Development
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From: Gregory Soar
Dear Info (MSD),
Aboslute lies and deceit and easy to see why MSD commits criminal actions.
You stated there is no legal avenue known to work around your crime act breaches.
Disgusting lies. It is being dealth with.
Yours sincerely,
Gregory Soar
From: Gregory Soar
Dear Info (MSD),
My team and I disagree with your detemination re Bill of Rights.
We also find it both morally repugnant that you think you can continure criminal acts whilst ordered by a Judicial body to desist. People found guilty of / who admit criminal acts and are ordered to desist may not continue those criminal acts.
We will be moving toward two legal actions very shortly.
You may feel you can bully with illegal unilateral actions. We will have a Court decide.
Yours sincerely,
Gregory Soar
From: Info (MSD)
Ministry of Social Development
Dear Mr Soar
Thank you for your further comments which have been referred to Work and Income officials for noting.
Info MSD
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From: Gregory Soar [mailto:[FOI #8579 email]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2018 5:54 p.m.
To: Info (MSD)
Subject: Re: Gregory Soar
Dear Info (MSD),
My team and I disagree with your detemination re Bill of Rights.
We also find it both morally repugnant that you think you can continure criminal acts whilst ordered by a Judicial body to desist. People found guilty of / who admit criminal acts and are ordered to desist may not continue those criminal acts.
We will be moving toward two legal actions very shortly.
You may feel you can bully with illegal unilateral actions. We will have a Court decide.
Yours sincerely,
Gregory Soar
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Dear Mr Soar
Attached is the reply to your email of 31 August 2018.
Yours sincerely
[email address]
Ministerial and Executive Services
Ministry of Social Development
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From: Gregory Soar
Dear Info (MSD),
I have MSD response as follows:
Dated 19 Oct 17
Question posed, “any legal claim by WINZ MSD that permits false documents and forgery as outlined in Crimes Act 1961 ss255, 256 and 257”......
MSD response, quote “your request for information has been refused under section 29(2)(b) of the Privacy Act 1993 as THIS INFORMATION DOES NOT EXIST”.
Msd still committing illegal criminal actions and admits no legal avenue known.
MSD continues such illegal actions. A thief who is told his actions are illegal may not continue illegal,actions while appealing to a higher Court.
Your opinion re Bill of Rights differs from mine and my legal advisor.
Time will tell and the truth will be shown.
Yours sincerely,
Gregory Soar
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