ACC external legal services – finance/ERP extracts, GL codes, and panel spend (2020/21–2024/25), with note to Claim #10038184163
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From: SPENCER JONES
Kia ora koutou,
Under the **Official Information Act 1982**, I request machine-readable information about ACC’s **expenditure on external legal services** used to defend, manage or represent ACC in dispute processes (e.g., **ICRA, Fairway, District Court/High Court** matters) for the five most recent financial years **2020/21–2024/25**.
This request focuses on information **held in ACC’s finance/ERP systems** and related procurement records. It is made in the **public interest** to improve transparency around representation in claimant disputes and cost-effectiveness of external legal use. See ACC’s reported claims-handling costs ($**662m** in 2023/24) and the “consulting and other professional services” line item, which indicate relevant categories exist within ACC’s accounts.
Part A — Finance/ERP data extract (CSV under s 16)
Please provide a **CSV export** from ACC’s finance/ERP for the period **2020/21–2024/25** containing **all payments to external legal suppliers** (law firms/barristers/advocates) for dispute, review or litigation work, filtered by the **GL account(s)** or **spend categories** ACC uses for legal services and/or litigation/appeals/reviews.
**Fields requested (where held):**
* Supplier legal name; NZBN (or other supplier ID)
* Invoice number; invoice date; payment date
* Line description / matter reference (with personal identifiers redacted if required)
* Amount (NZD ex-GST), GST, gross
* **GL Account code & description; Cost Centre; Project/Work Order; Business Unit**
* Any **matter type** or tag used (e.g., ICRA, Fairway, District Court, High Court, Tribunal)
* (If held) **Claim number** (I accept redaction to protect third-party privacy; aggregated totals per supplier/matter type suffice)
Format: Please provide as **CSV** (s 16 OIA). If multiple GL codes are used for legal services, include **all relevant codes** (see Part B).
Why this is held: ACC has previously released **ERP extracts of supplier payments** via FYI (showing supplier names/amounts — including *McCaw Lewis Limited*) demonstrating such data can be exported without per-file collation. ([FYI][1])
Part B — Chart of accounts & coding used for legal spend
Please provide:
1. A list of **GL Account codes/descriptions** used for **external legal services** (including litigation/review/appeal costs) during **2020/21–2024/25**.
2. Any **Cost Centres/Programs/Projects** commonly used to record spend on **ICRA, Fairway, or court appeals**.
3. Any **data dictionary** or field definitions needed to interpret the Part A CSV.
Part C — Panel/contracting arrangements and supplier list
Please provide:
1. The **current list of panel or approved external legal suppliers** engaged to act for ACC in reviews/appeals/disputes, and the **date ranges** of any panel or contract arrangements (including when ACC established its own external legal panel for AC Act litigation). ([FYI][2])
2. Any **standard engagement terms** or **service level expectations** for these suppliers.
3. For **2020/21–2024/25**, a **summary by supplier** of **annual total paid** (fees + disbursements + GST) for dispute/litigation matters only. (If producing this summary is onerous, please provide it **by the top 20 suppliers by value** for each year.)
Part D — Breakdown by forum / matter type (aggregates)
For 2020/21–2024/25, please provide **aggregated totals** (fees + disbursements + GST) by:
Forum: ICRA, Fairway, District Court, High Court, other tribunals
Business area: (e.g., PIC/impairment, cover, treatment injury, AEP/NZDF-transferred claims)
Outcome stage: mediation/settlement; hearing; appeal (if tagged in your system)
If not held as a canned report, please produce **one-off aggregated tables** based on the same ERP/GL filters used in Part A (s 17 allows reasonable extraction).
Part E — Narrowing options (to avoid s 18(f))
If my scope is assessed as potentially requiring “substantial collation,” please **apply s 13 duty to assist** and proceed with any of the following **narrower options without delay**:
1. Limit Part A to the **GL code(s)** explicitly titled **“Legal services” / “Litigation” / “Reviews & Appeals”**;
2. Limit suppliers to a **panel list** or to the **top 20 legal suppliers by value** each year;
3. Limit to **forums** (ICRA/Fairway/courts) rather than claim types; or
4. Provide **2023/24 and 2024/25** first, with earlier years to follow.
Partial release is requested where possible.
Part F — My claim (context only)
For clarity, I have an **ICRA hearing on 16 October 2025** (Claim **#10038184163**). While this OIA targets system-level data, please note I will seek **claim-specific invoices/time entries** under the **Privacy Act 2020**. (If easier for ACC, you may provide my claim’s **aggregate external-legal total to date** in this OIA, with personal identifiers redacted.)
Administration
Format: CSV (Part A), PDF or CSV (Parts B–D).
Timeframe: Standard 20 working days; if an **extension** is needed, please advise under s 15A and provide **rolling/partial release**.
Withholdings: If any information is withheld, please **cite the exact subsection** and explain the public-interest test (s 9(1)).
Charges: Please consider **waiver** due to public interest and reuse on FYI.
Kind regards,
Spencer Gerwyn Jones
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From: SPENCER JONES
Kia ora Christopher Johnston and the OIA Services team,
Reference:** GOV-043640 (original refusal 29 Oct 2025)
Original FYI Request:** #32534 – *ACC external legal services – finance/ERP extracts, GL codes, and panel spend (2020/21–2024/25)*
Thank you for your response today. I note the refusal under s18(f) due to substantial collation across multiple teams and systems. I appreciate the invitation to refine the scope and, in the spirit of s13 (duty to assist) and **public interest transparency (s5), I am now submitting a significantly narrowed request to enable a manageable and efficient response.
This refined request removes all 2020–2022 data, eliminates per-supplier or per-invoice detail, drops all claim-level references, and focuses only on high-level aggregates and coding metadata for the two most recent financial years (2023/24 and 2024/25). It is designed to be answerable using existing reports, GL summaries, or simple ERP queries—no manual file collation required.
Refined Official Information Act Request – GOV-043640 (Follow-up)
Under the Official Information Act 1982, I request the following **aggregated and anonymised** information about ACC’s expenditure on **external legal services** used in **dispute, review, or litigation processes** (e.g., ICRA, Fairway, District/High Court) for **2023/24 and 2024/25 only**:
Part 1 – GL Account Codes & Categories (Metadata only)
Please provide:
1. A list of **GL account codes and descriptions** used in ACC’s finance/ERP system to record **external legal services** related to **reviews, appeals, or litigation** in 2023/24 and 2024/25.
- Example format:
```
GL Code | Description
720100 | External Legal – Reviews & Appeals
720200 | Litigation Counsel – Court Matters
```
2. Any **Cost Centre, Project, or Program codes** commonly associated with **ICRA**, **Fairway**, or **Court appeals** (names only—no spend data).
3. A brief **data dictionary** (if held) defining key fields (e.g., “Matter Type”, “Forum”) used in legal spend tracking.
*Format:* CSV or PDF table
*Why feasible:* This is static reference data, not transactional. ACC has released similar coding structures in prior OIAs (e.g., FYI #19876 – provider payment codes).
Part 2 – Aggregated Spend by Forum (Two Years Only)
Please provide **total annual spend** (NZD, **including GST**) on **external legal services** for dispute/litigation matters, broken down by **forum**, for **2023/24 and 2024/25**:
| Financial Year | ICRA | Fairway | District Court | High Court | Other Tribunals | **Total** |
|----------------|------|---------|----------------|------------|------------------|-----------|
| 2023/24 | | | | | | |
| 2024/25 | | | | | | |
*Notes:*
- Aggregates only—no supplier names, invoices, or claim numbers.
- Use the same GL filters as in Part 1.
- If “Other Tribunals” is not tracked, combine into “Other” or note as N/A.
- If 2024/25 is incomplete, provide YTD and note cut-off date.
*Format:* CSV or PDF table
*Why feasible:* ACC produces financial reporting for levy setting and annual accounts. High-level forum aggregates are likely available via canned reports or simple queries (per s17 OIA).
Part 3 – Top 5 External Legal Suppliers by Total Spend (Aggregated, Two Years)
For **2023/24 and 2024/25 combined**, please provide **total paid** (NZD, **including GST**) to the **top 5 external legal suppliers** (by value) for dispute/litigation work:
| Rank | Supplier Legal Name | Total Paid (2023/24 + 2024/25) |
|------|---------------------|-------------------------------|
| 1 | | |
| 2 | | |
| ... | | |
*Notes:*
- Redact supplier names **only if required under s9(2)(a)**—otherwise, release (public interest in accountability).
- No per-year or per-matter breakdown.
- Based on same GL filters as Part 1.
*Format:* CSV or PDF table
*Why feasible:* Top-supplier summaries are standard in procurement reporting (e.g., AoG panel dashboards, ACC annual report disclosures).
Administration & Grounds for Release
- **Timeframe:** 20 working days from receipt. Partial/rolling release welcome (s16C).
- **Format:** CSV preferred for tables (s16); PDF acceptable.
- **Charges:** Please **waive** under public interest (s12(2))—this data supports scrutiny of ACC’s $662m claims-handling spend and levy sustainability. Will be published on FYI.org.nz.
- **Withholdings:** If any, cite exact subsection and apply public interest test (s9(1)).
- **Duty to Assist (s13):** This scope uses your original Part E narrowing options (limit to recent years, aggregates, top suppliers, GL-based). It avoids per-claim or per-invoice work.
- **Context:** This follows your refusal under s18(f) and is structured to **minimise resource impact** while preserving public interest.
I look forward to a positive and constructive response. Please don’t hesitate to contact me to discuss further refinements.
Kind regards,
Spencer Jones
[email address]
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Accident Compensation Corporation
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Kia ora
It appears the attachment referenced in our response was not included in
our email below. This is now attached.
My apologies for this oversight.
Ngâ mihi
Christopher Johnston (he/him)
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SPENCER JONES left an annotation ()
Update – 16 November 2025
ACC has refused this (and four related) requests under s 18(f) — substantial collation and research.
A single refusal letter covering all five requests is attached.
Next steps I am taking I will lodge a significantly narrowed follow-up request this week that asks only for:
annual totals (and basic forum breakdown) of what ACC spends on external lawyers for claimant reviews and appeals (2020/21–2024/25)
the GL codes used
the current panel list (firm names only)
This should be answerable from existing financial reports without manual file searching.
If the narrowed request is still refused, I will complain to the Ombudsman.
Why this information matters
ACC claimants (especially long-term or PIC claimants) frequently face external law firms at reviews and appeals, yet there is no public data on how much taxpayer/levy money is spent on this representation or whether it is proportionate. Recent media and claimant experiences (including Dean’s message below and many others in my inbox) highlight repeated assessments, pressure to exit long-term claims, and perceived unfairness when ACC uses paid lawyers against self-represented injured people.
Related topic – “permanent” or long-term claimant status and ACC-18 medical certificates Several people have contacted me asking why, after 10–15 years on the same injury with no realistic prospect of recovery, they are still required to obtain a new ACC-18 (medical certificate) every 13 weeks and undergo repeated vocational independence or functional capacity assessments.
Unfortunately ACC has no publicly available policy that defines when a claimant becomes “permanent” or moves to annual (or longer) certification. The only guidance I have found is scattered in old operational guidelines and some case law (e.g., decisions that say after many years of total incapacity the burden shifts to ACC to prove capacity has improved).
Useful starting points people have found helpful:
ACC’s own “Long-term claims” page (very vague): https://www.acc.co.nz/for-providers/trea...
The 2012 “Weir report” on long-term claimants (still the last major review)
Ombudsman decisions on repeated assessments (search “ACC vocational independence repeated” on the Ombudsman site)
I am considering a separate, narrow OIA on the criteria ACC actually uses today for moving someone to 6-monthly or annual ACC-18 certification and ceasing routine reassessments.
Feel free to message me via FYI if you have similar experiences — the more examples, the stronger any future request or complaint becomes.
Kind regards, Spencer Jones
From: Government Services
Accident Compensation Corporation
Kia ora
Please find attached our response to your official information request
dated 29 October 2025. If you have any questions about the response you
can contact us at this [1]address, for all other matters please use our
contact form at: [2]https://www.acc.co.nz/contact/ alternatively give us
a call on 0800 101 996.
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Ngā mihi
Christopher Johnston (he/him)
Manager | OIA Services
* PO Box 242, Wellington 6011
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SPENCER JONES left an annotation ()
*(For FYI Request #32534 – ACC External Legal Services / ERP Extracts / GL Codes / Panel Spend)*
**Public Annotation – 27 November 2025**
*By Spencer Jones (requester)*
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# **📌 Summary of Findings From ACC’s OIA Responses (GOV-043640 & GOV-044064)**
ACC has now provided partial information about its GL codes, analysis codes, and aggregated external-legal expenditure relating to reviews, appeals, ICRA, Fairway, and other litigation forums. While ACC answered most of the narrowed request (GOV-044064), the original OIA (GOV-043640) was refused under s 18(f) in a way that appears inconsistent with the new data ACC has now disclosed.
This annotation documents what was released, what remains unanswered, and the systemic patterns now visible in ACC’s dispute and litigation behaviour.
---
# **1. ACC’s Own Financial Data Confirms Escalating Pressure Inside the Dispute System**
ACC’s newly released data shows *significant* year-on-year increases in external-legal spending for ICRA and Fairway:
### **ICRA external-legal spend**
* **2023/24:** $8.8M
* **2024/25:** $10.7M
⬆ **+21.4% increase**
### **Fairway external-legal spend**
* **2023/24:** $6.66M
* **2024/25:** $8.06M
⬆ **+21.0% increase**
### **Combined ICRA + Fairway spend (2024/25):**
**$18.8 million** → **68% of all ACC external-counsel spending on disputes**
These numbers confirm a system that is:
* structurally adversarial
* increasingly lawyer-driven
* experiencing procedural delays
* heavily imbalanced in terms of claimant vs ACC resources
* inconsistent with the Code of Claimants’ Rights (s149) obligations for fair, timely, and respectful treatment
For claimants — including my own case at ICRA — this means the system is under abnormal strain and is not operating as a fair, neutral decision-making environment.
---
# **2. ACC Litigation Is Surging Across the Courts**
Current data shows ACC court activity has escalated dramatically:
### **District Court appeals:** ⬆ **+806%**
### **High Court appeals:** ⬆ **+912%**
Key contributing drivers include:
* **ACC v TN (Court of Appeal)**
* +$3.6B actuarial impact
* surge in sensitive claims
* disputes over backdated entitlements
* **ACC v D (2024/25)** tightening jurisdictional rules
* ACC being taken to the **High Court** for procedural failures (including ADR obligations)
* Decline-rate reviews rising to **8.9%**
* Significant increase in “work-ready” decisions stopping long-term weekly compensation
This confirms that claimants today face a more aggressive, high-volume, high-litigation ACC than in previous years — directly affecting fairness, consistency, and access to justice.
---
# **3. What the Narrowed OIA DID Reveal (GOV-044064)**
### **A. GL codes and analysis codes**
ACC disclosed codes relating to litigation and disputes, including:
* **43074 – Other Litigation** (includes employment-related matters)
* **43075 – Criminal Prosecutions**
* **06030 – The single analysis code ACC uses for both ICRA and Fairway**
This confirms the information *is* centrally tracked — contradicting the earlier 18(f) refusal.
### **B. Aggregated spend by forum (Appendix 2)**
Provided for:
* District Court
* High Court
* Tribunal categories
* ICRA & Fairway
* External counsel totals
### **C. Top 5 external legal providers (FY23/24 + FY24/25)**
* Medico Law – **$1.95M**
* Young Hunter – **$662K**
* Izard Weston – **$558K**
* Russell McVeagh – **$464K**
* Fletcher Vautier Moore – **$397K**
This highlights the scale of ACC’s legal resourcing compared to individual claimants, who are typically self-represented.
---
# **4. What ACC Did *Not* Answer**
ACC did not respond to — nor cite any refusal ground for — the following items from my original and narrowed requests:
* **Cost centre codes**
* **Project codes**
* **Programme codes**
* **Definitions/data dictionaries** for:
* “Forum”
* “Matter Type”
* “Appeal/Review”
* “ICRA/Fairway”
* “Internal/External Counsel”
These were simply omitted from the response.
---
# **5. Assessment of the OIA Handling**
### **Original OIA (GOV-043640):**
* Refused under **s 18(f)** despite:
* pre-offered narrowing options,
* clear extractability now proven in GOV-044064
* In my view, this refusal remains **questionable**.
### **Narrowed OIA (GOV-044064):**
* Delivered within timeframe
* Mostly answered
* Still missing structural metadata
* Silent non-answers constitute **de facto refusals without reasons**
---
# **6. Next Steps**
I will now submit a follow-up micro-OIA requesting:
* explicit confirmation of whether cost centres, project codes, or programme codes exist
* release (or confirmed non-existence) of data dictionary definitions
* clarification of whether 06030 contains any sub-coding that distinguishes ICRA vs Fairway
If these are refused or ignored, the matter will be escalated to the Ombudsman for review.
From: SPENCER JONES
Kia ora ACC OIA Team,
Reference: GOV-043640 (9 October 2025) and GOV-044064 (29 October 2025)
Response received: 26 November 2025
Thank you for the response of 26 November 2025, including Appendix 1 and Appendix 2.
I am submitting a short follow-up OIA to clarify several items from my original request that appear to remain unanswered, and which were not refused under any OIA provision.
---
1. Cost Centre / Project / Programme Codes
In my original request I asked for:
* cost centre codes
* project codes
* programme codes
commonly used when recording or processing:
* ICRA matters
* Fairway matters
* District Court appeals
* High Court appeals
* Tribunal matters (HRRT, ERA, etc.)
* External legal counsel engagement
These items were not addressed in either GOV-043640 or GOV-044064, and no refusal grounds were cited.
**Please confirm whether ACC holds cost centre, project, or programme codes used for the above categories.**
If none exist, please confirm this explicitly under **section 18(e)**.
---
2. Data Dictionary / Field Definitions
My request also sought:
> “any data dictionary or field description for the fields used in ACC’s systems to record external legal spend, dispute forum, matter category, or review/appeal type.”
This includes fields such as:
* **Forum**
* **Matter Type**
* **Appeal / Review**
* **ICRA / Fairway**
* **Internal Counsel / External Counsel**
* Any field used to generate Appendix 2 (26 November response)
Your response did not state whether such definitions exist.
**Please confirm whether ACC holds a data dictionary, schema, or field description for these fields.**
If not, please confirm under the relevant OIA provision.
---
3. Analysis Code 06030 (ICRA/Fairway)
Your 26 November response states:
> “ACC only uses one code to track ICRA and Fairway: 06030.”
To understand this accurately, please confirm:
* Whether **any sub-codes**, **attributes**, **tags**, or **fields** within 06030 distinguish between ICRA and Fairway.
* If such identifiers exist, please provide the field names and descriptions.
* If no internal differentiation exists, please confirm this explicitly.
---
4. Source Systems Used for Appendix 2
Please confirm which finance/ERP or legal-tracking systems were used to extract the data in Appendix 2 (e.g., TechOne, Salesforce, LAS, ECAT, other internal datasets).
This is for transparency of source systems only — not a request for raw data.
---
5. Duty to Assist (Section 13 OIA)
Given that the narrowed request (GOV-044064) demonstrates that aggregated financial data is readily available through existing GL and analysis codes, please confirm:
Can the structural metadata requested above (cost centres, project codes, data dictionary definitions) be supplied without invoking section 18(f)?
---
Kind regards,
Spencer Jones
From: Government Services
Accident Compensation Corporation
Kia ora,
Thank you for contacting ACC’s Government Services inbox.
If your request falls within scope of the Official Information Act, we
will endeavour to respond as soon as possible, and no later than 20
working days after receipt of your request. If we are unable to respond
within the statutory timeframe, we will notify you of an extension.
The information you have requested may involve documents which contain the
names and contact details of individuals. Please let us know whether you
are seeking that information as part of your request. We may need to
consult before deciding whether we can release this information, and this
may take a bit more time. If we do not hear from you, we will assume that
you do not require it.
For more information about Official Information Act requests, please
visit: [1]Ombudsman New Zealand | Tari o te Kaitiaki Mana Tangata.
If your request relates to your claim, or you’d like more information
about lodging a claim, please contact ACC’s claims team at 0800 101 996
or [2][email address].
For personal information requests or privacy matters,
please visit [3]Request for personal information (acc.co.nz).
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Ngâ mihi,
Government Services
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Kia ora
Please find attached our response to your official information request
dated 26 November 2025. If you have any questions about the response you
can contact us at this [1]address, for all other matters please use our
contact form at: [2]https://www.acc.co.nz/contact/ alternatively give us
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Manager | OIA Services
* PO Box 242, Wellington 6011
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From: SPENCER JONES
Kia ora ACC OIA Services,
Thank you for your 9 December 2025 response (GOV-044691). I appreciate the timely reply.
However, several aspects of the response require clarification because the explanations provided appear inconsistent with both ACC’s own public reporting and previous OIA releases, and because the use of s18(e) and s12(2) in this instance raises legitimate concerns under the duty to assist (s13) and the purpose of the OIA (s4).
This reply outlines the key contradictions and requests clarification so the request may proceed on an accurate basis.
1. Claimed non-existence of cost centres, project codes, programme codes, or sub-codes
Your response states that ACC holds no codes—beyond analysis code 06030—capable of distinguishing expenditure for:
• ICRA
• FairWay
• High Court
• District Court
• Tribunal matters
• External legal counsel
This claim appears inconsistent with:
A. ACC’s own public reporting
ACC annually publishes separate performance and volume reporting for:
• ICRA
• FairWay reviews
• Decline rates
• Resolution times
• Outcomes by forum
It is not possible to generate these public metrics without some form of internal segmentation or classification structure, whether cost-centre based or metadata-based.
B. ACC’s 26 November OIA release (GOV-044064)
In that release, ACC provided separate expenditure totals for:
• ICRA ($10.7M in 2024/25)
• FairWay ($8.06M in 2024/25)
If ACC has no codes or attributes capable of distinguishing these forums, then it is unclear how these figures were generated.
C. Oracle and Med Fees Processing (MFP) system requirements
Both systems require:
• data dictionaries,
• field definitions,
• schema-level metadata,
• audit trails,
to function correctly and comply with public-sector finance and data-governance standards.
Therefore, the assertion that no definitional documentation or classification metadata exists at all is difficult to reconcile with ordinary ERP operations and with Treasury Instructions 2024 and Cabinet metadata standards (CO(02)3).
I therefore request clarification on how ACC produces segmented reporting internally and publicly if no segmentation is recorded in the ERP or associated metadata.
2. Claimed absence of a data dictionary or field-definition documentation
Your response declines the request for a data dictionary under s18(e) on the basis that it “does not exist.”
However:
• Oracle financial systems require definitional metadata for all fields.
• MFP (which you confirm is also used) similarly requires schema documentation.
• Treasury Instructions require government agencies to maintain operational data dictionaries.
• ACC’s annual financial reporting requires structured field definitions for audit and assurance.
A statement that none of these materials exist at all appears inconsistent with the minimum governance requirements for public entities operating ERP systems.
Please confirm whether:
1. ACC interprets “data dictionary” narrowly as only the one produced for GOV-044064,
or
2. ACC is asserting that no field-definition, metadata set, schema documentation, or internal definitional material exists anywhere within Finance, Data & Analytics, or Technology Services.
This distinction is important for the accurate application of s18(e).
3. Inability to distinguish ICRA and FairWay within analysis code 06030
Your response states that:
“There are no sub-codes, attributes, or fields used to distinguish ICRA from FairWay.”
Yet ACC routinely publishes separate:
• ICRA volumes
• FairWay volumes
• Resolution times
• Decline rates
• Success/overturn statistics
and ACC released separate expenditure totals under OIA (#GOV-044064).
It would assist transparency to explain:
• The internal process or classification method used to produce these segmented totals if no coding or metadata exists;
• Whether this segmentation occurs outside the ERP (e.g., manual collation, data-warehouse views, PowerBI models, MFP tagging, etc.).
This clarification is essential to ensure the s18(e) refusal has been applied correctly.
4. Declining a clarification question under s12(2)
My Part 5 question asked:
“Can the structural metadata be supplied without invoking s18(f)?”
This was not a request for information, but a clarification designed to allow you to meet your obligations under s13: duty to assist.
Using s12(2) to decline a clarification question is unusual and appears inconsistent with Ombudsman guidance, which states that agencies should actively help requesters refine their questions before relying on refusal grounds.
I therefore respectfully request that ACC:
• Either state whether structural metadata can be provided without substantial collation (s18(f)),
• Or advise what refinement would allow the release of that information.
5. Request for reconsideration / further clarification
Given the issues outlined above, could ACC please:
A. Reconsider the application of s18(e)
in light of the publicly demonstrated existence of segmented ICRA/FairWay reporting and the standard operational metadata required for Oracle/MFP systems.
or
B. Provide a brief explanation of how ACC internally produces separate ICRA and FairWay expenditure and performance reporting
if no codes, attributes, or metadata exist in the financial systems.
This clarification is needed so the public can understand the basis for expenditure reporting and so the OIA can continue on a proper footing.
6. Acknowledgement of polite and constructive engagement
I appreciate the professionalism and timeliness of the responses received to date.
My questions are raised respectfully and in good faith, in the interests of ensuring the OIA process is accurate, transparent, and consistent with obligations under:
• s4 (purpose of the Act),
• s13 (duty to assist),
• s14 (transfer obligations), and
• s18(e)/(f) (proper application of refusal grounds).
I look forward to your clarification.
Kind regards,
Spencer Jones
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Summary of ACC’s 9 December 2025 Response (GOV-044691)
This latest response from ACC answers several of the follow-up questions from 26 November but also raises new concerns about transparency, data integrity, and the application of OIA refusal grounds.
1. ACC claims that cost centres, project codes, programme codes, and sub-codes do not exist (s18(e))
ACC states it holds no codes or metadata—beyond analysis code 06030—that classify expenditure for:
• ICRA (Independent Complaints & Review Authority)
• FairWay Reviews
• District Court
• High Court
• Tribunal matters
• External legal counsel
This is difficult to reconcile with ACC’s own published reporting, which routinely provides separate totals for ICRA and FairWay, as well as detailed breakdowns of dispute volumes and outcomes.
It is unclear how ACC can produce those public figures if no internal classification system exists.
2. ACC claims no data dictionary or field definitions exist (s18(e))
ACC also states it holds no definitional metadata for the financial and dispute-tracking fields used in its ERP and MFP systems.
This is surprising because public-sector ERP systems (e.g., Oracle) require:
• field definitions
• schema documentation
• metadata governance
to comply with Treasury Instructions and auditing standards.
If these materials genuinely do not exist, it raises questions about ACC’s internal data governance.
3. ACC confirms for the first time that Med Fees Processing (MFP) and Oracle supply the legal-spend data
This is helpful transparency, and the first confirmation of the system-of-record for these numbers.
However, the lack of metadata still leaves the data structure opaque.
4. ACC refused to answer a clarification question under s12(2)
The question asked whether structural metadata could be provided without substantial collation (s18(f)).
This was a clarification, not a request for new information, and is normally supported by the OIA duty to assist (s13).
Using s12(2) to decline a clarifying question is unusual.
5. Why this matters for the public
ACC spent $18.8 million on ICRA + FairWay external legal costs in 2024/25 alone.
Understanding:
• how ACC records these costs,
• how they classify dispute pathways, and
• what metadata underpins their public reporting
is essential for public accountability and for evaluating the fairness and efficiency of the dispute system.
6. Next steps
This request will proceed with further clarification.
If necessary, the inconsistencies will be escalated to the Ombudsman for independent review.
Updates will continue to be posted here for transparency
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Kia ora FYI community,
ACC has refused this OIA request (ref: GOV-043640, bundled with four others) on the grounds that it would require "substantial collation and research by multiple teams and subject matter experts," significantly impacting their operations. They considered extensions and charges but opted for full refusal, inviting me to refine the scope. No partial release or engagement with my suggested narrowings (e.g., top suppliers or recent years only) was provided.
This is disappointing but not surprising—similar broad ACC data requests on FYI often hit this barrier due to their scale (e.g., ERP exports across claims). I've noted the response letter below for reference. If you're following for transparency on ACC's legal dispute costs (tied to the $662m claims-handling line in 2023/24), here's a curated summary of publicly available info from ACC reports, government procurement sites, and related FYI requests. This isn't a full substitute but can help refine future OIAs or build arguments (e.g., via Ombudsman review). 2024/25 data is incomplete; full reports typically drop ~Dec.
Key Public Data on ACC Spend and Legal Services
ACC's total injury support hit ~$7b in 2024 (up from $1b in 2004), with $4.4b on rehab and $2.5b on weekly comp. Claims-handling (including professional fees) was $662m in 2023/24, but legal specifics are aggregated under "consulting & professional services" (~$200–300m annually, no granular breakdown). No public ERP extracts for legal GL codes, but precedents show they're feasible (e.g., older supplier payments released on FYI).
| Category | Details & Figures (2020/21–2024/25) | Sources/Notes |
|----------|------------------------------------|---------------|
| **Overall ACC Expenditure** | - 2023/24: $7.2b deficit; outstanding claims liability $60.2b (up $8.7b).<br>- Total recovery: ~$7b (2024); claims-handling $662m.<br>- Professional services: Lumped in broader fees; no legal split. | ACC Insights 2024 report; Treasury Financial Statements 2024. |
| **Dispute/Legal Costs** | - ~5–10% claims escalate to disputes; workplace injuries (10% claims) = 22% costs.<br>- No aggregates by forum (ICRA/Fairway/courts); rising appeals noted in levy hikes (2024/25 rates up due to "injury costs").<br>- External counsel: Used for reviews/appeals; policy exists but details withheld in FYI reqs (e.g., when non-qualifying issues allow counsel). | ACC Insights 2024; FYI #27263 (Legal Services Representation, 2024—partial refusal). |
| **External Legal Panels** | - **AoG Panel (govt-wide, ACC uses)**: Live 23 Jun 2024 (2+2+2 years); 50+ providers across 9 law areas (e.g., litigation, employment). Broader outcomes: Gender equity, pro bono targets. Rates tied to Labour Cost Index; more Māori/geographic spread.<br>- **ACC-Specific Appeals/Reviews Panel**: Nationwide for AC Act/medico-legal; ROI opened Apr 2024 (out of AoG scope). Providers: Partners/barristers from law firms (e.g., McCaw Lewis in prior FYI releases).<br>- No full supplier list public (requires RealMe login for directory); terms emphasize performance ratings shared across agencies. | Govt Procurement (NZGP) AoG ELS contract; GETS Tender #29305553 (ACC Panel ROI, 2024). |
| **Related FYI Requests** | - Successes: Older ERP extracts (pre-2020 suppliers, incl. McCaw Lewis); panel overviews in fragments.<br>- Refusals: Bundled like mine (e.g., #325xx series on counsel engagement); privacy/disclosure policies (e.g., #23314, ACC45 consents for external shares).<br>- Ongoing: #27263 (external counsel policy); #26953 (ADR reps, incl. counsel roles). | FYI ACC body—search "ACC legal panel" or "external counsel".. |
Next Steps & Tips for Followers
- **Refine & Resubmit**: Email GovernmentServices@acc.co.nz with a narrower ask (e.g., GL codes + 2023/24 aggregates only). Cite s13 (duty to assist) and public interest (s5—levy sustainability).
- **Ombudsman Review**: Free; lodge at www.ombudsman.parliament.nz within 2 months. Argue lack of s13 engagement; reference precedents like prior ERP releases.
- **Privacy Act Angle**: For claim-specifics (e.g., my #10038184163), use ACC's personal info form—no s18(f) bar.
- **Watch For**: ACC's 2025 report (~Dec); levy decisions (opposed by 90%+ submitters in 2024 consult). Submit to Minister for ACC for high-level aggregates.
If you've got related requests or tips, comment below—let's crowdsource transparency. Kind regards,
Spencer Jones
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