New Zealand Police Company number
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From: Lee
Dear New Zealand Police,
Can you please confirm if the NEW ZEALAND POLICE are a
CORPORATION trading as NEW ZEALAND POLICE Company number: 300001205 and NZBN: 9429041909966
Registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington
And also registered on
D-U-N-s number 590216123
Registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington
Yours faithfully,
Lee
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Lee
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request below.
Your reference number is IR-01-24-5821.
You can expect a response to your request on or before 18 March 2024 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi, Michelle
Ministerial Services - Police National Headquarters
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From: Lee <[FOI #25787 email]>
Sent: Monday, 19 February 2024 3:14 PM
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Official Information request - New Zealand Police Company number
Dear New Zealand Police,
Can you please confirm if the NEW ZEALAND POLICE are a CORPORATION trading as NEW ZEALAND POLICE Company number: 300001205 and NZBN: 9429041909966 Registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington
And also registered on
D-U-N-s number 590216123
Registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington
Yours faithfully,
Lee
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From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Lee
Please find attached the response relating to your Official Information
Act request, received by Police on 19 February 2024.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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From: Lee
Dear Megan, Agent for Ministerial Services,
Thank you for your email Re: IR-01-24-5821
Date known as 6 March 2024
Can you please clarify if, as stated by you Megan that the "New Zealand Police (Police) is not a corporation, nor registered on DUNS";
1. That the company trading on the NEW ZEALAND COMPANIES DIRECTORY page as "NEW ZEALAND POLICE with the Company number: 300001205 and NZBN: 9429041909966 at the registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington" is a company not affiliated with the NEW ZEALAND POLICE who is also registered at the same office at: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington;
2. And if the NEW ZEALAND POLICE registered on D-U-N-s number 590216123 is not affiliated with the NEW ZEALAND POLICE which also has the same registered Office at: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington;
3. then are these entities using the same details as the NEW ZEALAND POLICE unlawfully?
4. May it also be point out that you Megan stated the Police’s New Zealand Business Number (NZBN) is 9429041909966, which is the same NZBN: 9429041909966 with the same registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington that is trading on the NEW ZEALAND COMPANIES DIRECTORY, so therefore it must be the same business/company number;
i look forward to receiving your clarification on this matter
Yours faithfully,
Lee
Juanita left an annotation ()
They state that the are not a business but are registered on the NZ Business Number Search and registered:
New Zealand Police
NZBN 9429041909966
Entity Status Registered
Business Type Central Government
Registration Date 14 June 2017
Websites http://www.police.govt.nz
Phone Numbers
+64 04 4749499 (Phone)
Office Address
180 Molesworth Street
Wellington
New Zealand
6140
Postal Address
Po Box 3017
Wellington
New Zealand
6140
Last Updated
20 October 2017
https://www.nzbn.govt.nz/mynzbn/nzbndeta...
R S Grant left an annotation ()
Yes, they have an NZBN. As I stated earlier, any entity (or person) who buys or sells can have an NZBN. That does not mean that they are a corporation or a company, and they have already told you that they are not.
From: Lee
Dear Ministerial Services,
In response to the OIA request i sent on 19 February 2024, Megan responded to the OIA request IR-01-24-5821 on 6 March 2024:
"Can you please confirm if the NEW ZEALAND POLICE are a CORPORATION
trading as NEW ZEALAND POLICE Company number: 300001205 and NZBN:
9429041909966 Registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington
And also registered on
D-U-N-s number 590216123
Megan's Response:
New Zealand Police (Police) is not a corporation, nor registered on DUNS. Police’s New
Zealand Business Number (NZBN) is 9429041909966"
i have since received an email with an OIA request IR-01-22-29820 response from Megan, that contradicts Megan response to me stating "i can confirm New Zealand Police (Police) is listed on the Dun & Bradstreet business directory"
This isn't the first time OIA have been contradictory/ambiguous
In the interest of the public Police/Crown Agents need to be transparent,
Is it not correct that Police/Crown Agents are fiduciaries pursuant to the Secret Commissions Act 1910 ss 5 and 16?
Yours sincerely,
Lee
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tçnâ koe Lee,
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request below, received by Police on 10 June 2024.
Your reference number is IR-01-24-20441.
You can expect a response to your request on or before 9 July 2024 unless an extension is needed.
Ngâ mihi,
Keenia
Advisor - Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee <[FOI #25787 email]>
Sent: Monday, 10 June 2024 1:37 pm
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IR-01-24-5821 - Response
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Dear Ministerial Services,
In response to the OIA request i sent on 19 February 2024, Megan responded to the OIA request IR-01-24-5821 on 6 March 2024:
"Can you please confirm if the NEW ZEALAND POLICE are a CORPORATION trading as NEW ZEALAND POLICE Company number: 300001205 and NZBN:
9429041909966 Registered Office: 180 Molesworth Street Wellington
And also registered on
D-U-N-s number 590216123
Megan's Response:
New Zealand Police (Police) is not a corporation, nor registered on DUNS. Police’s New Zealand Business Number (NZBN) is 9429041909966"
i have since received an email with an OIA request IR-01-22-29820 response from Megan, that contradicts Megan response to me stating "i can confirm New Zealand Police (Police) is listed on the Dun & Bradstreet business directory"
This isn't the first time OIA have been contradictory/ambiguous
In the interest of the public Police/Crown Agents need to be transparent,
Is it not correct that Police/Crown Agents are fiduciaries pursuant to the Secret Commissions Act 1910 ss 5 and 16?
Yours sincerely,
Lee
-----Original Message-----
Tçnâ koe Lee
Please find attached the response relating to your Official Information Act request, received by Police on 19 February 2024.
Ngâ mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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DMC left an annotation ()
You have ALREADY been told
R S Grant left an annotation (March 07, 2024)
The "New Zealand Companies Directory" is not an official register - it is a private list with no official status at all. Certainly, NZ Police have no responsibility for its contents. You need to check the Companies Register at the NZ Companies Office website to find official information, and you will find that NZ Police is not listed, because it is not a company. Any entity that buys goods and services can have an NZBN, as NZ Police does.
STOP WASTING their time with things that are not what you want them to be. You are belieiving false law that has never worked anywhere in the world.
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Lee
Please find attached the response to your Official Information Act
request, received by New Zealand Police on 10/06/2024.
Kind regards,
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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The "New Zealand Companies Directory" is not an official register - it is a private list with no official status at all. Certainly, NZ Police have no responsibility for its contents. You need to check the Companies Register at the NZ Companies Office website to find official information, and you will find that NZ Police is not listed, because it is not a company. Any entity that buys goods and services can have an NZBN, as NZ Police does.
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