"Lessons Learnt: Shooting at moving vehicles" DOCUMENT
S.I made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
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From: S.I
Dear New Zealand Police,
Please make available the document titled 'Lessons Learnt: Shooting at moving vehicles' as well as a detailed list of of all available 'Lessons Learnt' documents.
I am a New Zealand citizen residing in Auckland my entire life so I am more than eligible to request this information.
Yours faithfully,
S.I
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request below.
Your reference number is IR-01-23-25244
You can expect a response to your request on or before 06/09/2023 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi,
Jonelle
Ministerial Services - Police National Headquarters
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From: S.I <[FOI #23764 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2023 8:25 pm
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Official Information request - "Lessons Learnt: Shooting at moving vehicles" DOCUMENT
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Dear New Zealand Police,
Please make available the document titled 'Lessons Learnt: Shooting at moving vehicles' as well as a detailed list of of all available 'Lessons Learnt' documents.
I am a New Zealand citizen residing in Auckland my entire life so I am more than eligible to request this information.
Yours faithfully,
S.I
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From: S.I
Dear Ministerial Services,
Please release the requested information as this is now due.
Regards
S.I
From: S.I
Dear Ministerial Services,
Please release the requested information as this is now due.
Regards
S.I
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe S.I
Please find attached the response to your Official Information Act
request, received by New Zealand Police on 9 August 2023.
Ngā mihi
Dylan
Advisor | Ministerial Services | Police National Headquarters
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From: S.I
Dear Ministerial Services,
Thanks for this information. Can I please request these additional documents from the supplied list:
3D printed firearms
Accidental Disclosure of Witness Information
Another homemade pipe gun
AOS involvement in searches
Avoiding blue-on-blue fire
Complacency and situational awareness
Complaint of excess use of force and unlawful search
Coordination with AOS
Disclosure of personal details
Dogs
Firearm complacency and Suspicious items update
Firearms seizures - data quality
Firearms seizures - data quality update
Glock safe - M4 trigger risk
Glock safe - M4 trigger risk
GunSafe
Homemade firearm - modified paintball gun
Homemade firearm seized
Human Source Confidentiality
Importance of thorough search when clearing an address
Inadequate Service/Failure to Investigate and Cunning Concealment Countered
Lifecard folding pistol
M4 training ammunition risk identified
Maglite torch shotgun
Modified torch firearm
PNT, S8 Search and Surveillance Act, Inventory seized vehicles
Redaction/Disclosure Error
Situational awareness - radio eavesdropping
Skoda window opening and closing
TENR Tactical Communication - and inaccurate evidence
Thorough search by authorised officer
Unlawful detention during search
Vehicle security during disorder events
regards
S.I
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request below.
Your reference number is IR-01-23-28468
You can expect a response to your request on or before 04/10/2023 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi,
Jonelle
Ministerial Services - Police National Headquarters
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From: S.I <[FOI #23764 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2023 9:00 pm
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: OIA response IR-01-23-25244
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Dear Ministerial Services,
Thanks for this information. Can I please request these additional documents from the supplied list:
3D printed firearms
Accidental Disclosure of Witness Information Another homemade pipe gun AOS involvement in searches Avoiding blue-on-blue fire Complacency and situational awareness Complaint of excess use of force and unlawful search Coordination with AOS Disclosure of personal details Dogs Firearm complacency and Suspicious items update Firearms seizures - data quality Firearms seizures - data quality update Glock safe - M4 trigger risk Glock safe - M4 trigger risk GunSafe Homemade firearm - modified paintball gun Homemade firearm seized Human Source Confidentiality Importance of thorough search when clearing an address Inadequate Service/Failure to Investigate and Cunning Concealment Countered Lifecard folding pistol
M4 training ammunition risk identified
Maglite torch shotgun
Modified torch firearm
PNT, S8 Search and Surveillance Act, Inventory seized vehicles Redaction/Disclosure Error Situational awareness - radio eavesdropping Skoda window opening and closing TENR Tactical Communication - and inaccurate evidence Thorough search by authorised officer Unlawful detention during search Vehicle security during disorder events
regards
S.I
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Tēnā koe S.I
Please find attached the response to your Official Information Act request, received by New Zealand Police on 9 August 2023.
Ngā mihi
Dylan
Advisor | Ministerial Services | Police National Headquarters
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WARNING
The information contained in this email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information. It may also be subject to the provisions of section 50 of the Policing Act 2008, which creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police property. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this message in error, you must not peruse, use, distribute or copy this message or any of its contents.
Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect those of the New Zealand Police. If you have received this message in error, please email or telephone the sender immediately
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From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Kia ora
Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding to your request of 6 September 2023.
We have finished collating the documents you requested and are currently carrying out the internal consultations necessary to make a decision on your request.
Unfortunately, as Police's decision was due to you yesterday, it is no longer possible to extend the time limit to complete these consultations. I acknowledge this means Police has failed to meet it statutory obligation under the OIA, and I apologise wholeheartedly for that error.
We will still endeavour to provide you with our response as soon as possible, and expect to have it to you by the end of October.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
Ngā mihi
Toby
Tobias Vandenberg
Senior Advisor | Ministerial Services | Police National Headquarters
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From: Ministerial Services
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2023 8:51 am
To: 'S.I' <[FOI #23764 email]>
Subject: OIA Acknowledgement - IR-01-23-28468
Tēnā koe
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request below.
Your reference number is IR-01-23-28468
You can expect a response to your request on or before 04/10/2023 unless an extension is needed.
Ngā mihi,
Jonelle
Ministerial Services - Police National Headquarters
-----Original Message-----
From: S.I <[FOI #23764 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2023 9:00 pm
To: Ministerial Services <[email address]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: OIA response IR-01-23-25244
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Dear Ministerial Services,
Thanks for this information. Can I please request these additional documents from the supplied list:
3D printed firearms
Accidental Disclosure of Witness Information Another homemade pipe gun AOS involvement in searches Avoiding blue-on-blue fire Complacency and situational awareness Complaint of excess use of force and unlawful search Coordination with AOS Disclosure of personal details Dogs Firearm complacency and Suspicious items update Firearms seizures - data quality Firearms seizures - data quality update Glock safe - M4 trigger risk Glock safe - M4 trigger risk GunSafe Homemade firearm - modified paintball gun Homemade firearm seized Human Source Confidentiality Importance of thorough search when clearing an address Inadequate Service/Failure to Investigate and Cunning Concealment Countered Lifecard folding pistol
M4 training ammunition risk identified
Maglite torch shotgun
Modified torch firearm
PNT, S8 Search and Surveillance Act, Inventory seized vehicles Redaction/Disclosure Error Situational awareness - radio eavesdropping Skoda window opening and closing TENR Tactical Communication - and inaccurate evidence Thorough search by authorised officer Unlawful detention during search Vehicle security during disorder events
regards
S.I
-----Original Message-----
Tēnā koe S.I
Please find attached the response to your Official Information Act request, received by New Zealand Police on 9 August 2023.
Ngā mihi
Dylan
Advisor | Ministerial Services | Police National Headquarters
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WARNING
The information contained in this email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information. It may also be subject to the provisions of section 50 of the Policing Act 2008, which creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police property. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this message in error, you must not peruse, use, distribute or copy this message or any of its contents.
Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect those of the New Zealand Police. If you have received this message in error, please email or telephone the sender immediately
References
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S.I IR 01 23 28468 response letter.pdf
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Tēnā koe S.I.
Please find attached the response and documentation relating to your
Official Information Act request, received by Police on 6 September 2023.
Please accept our apologies for the delay in providing you with a response
to your request.
Ngā mihi
Lisa
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
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The information contained in this email message is intended for the
addressee only and may contain privileged information. It may also be
subject to the provisions of section 50 of the Policing Act 2008, which
creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police property. If you
are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this
message in error, you must not peruse, use, distribute or copy this
message or any of its contents.
Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect
those of the New Zealand Police. If you have received this message in
error, please email or telephone the sender immediately
joseph k left an annotation ()
This is a great OIA, but it appears to be overzealously redacted (see page 20 in [S.I IR 01 23 28468 response documentation Redacted.pdf] !)
I hope you appealed this to the ombudsman
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