Why is RCP 8.5 still being used in NZ?

Steven Cranston made this Official Information request to James Shaw

Response to this request is long overdue. By law James Shaw should have responded by now (details and exceptions). The requester can complain to the Ombudsman.

From: Steven Cranston

Dear James Shaw,

Can you please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents or other communication that references RCP 8.5.

The IPCC has recently made the assessment that RCP 8.5 is implausible, I am interested as to why the NZ Government has not removed it from legislation and other climate change documents.

Yours faithfully,

Steven Cranston

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Tēnā koe,

 

Thank you for contacting the office of Hon James Shaw, Minister of Climate
Change and Associate Minister for the Environment (Biodiversity).  

 

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[3]statements.

 

 

Ngā mihi

Office of Hon James Shaw
Reception +64 4 817 6663 | Ministerial Email [4][James Shaw request email] |
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Postal Freepost Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings,
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From: J Shaw (MIN)
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Tçnâ koe,

 

Thank you for contacting the office of Hon James Shaw, Minister of Climate
Change and Associate Minister for the Environment (Biodiversity).  

 

While the Minister considers all correspondence to be important and all
messages are carefully read and considered, it is not always possible to
provide a personal response to every email received.

 

·         If your message is for Minister Shaw’s advice, or if you have
copied your email to another Minister and/or Member of Parliament with
more appropriate portfolio responsibilities, then this will be noted.

·         If you have invited Minister Shaw to an event then a member of
staff may contact you for more information. Please note we do endeavour to
process invitations within 7 working days.

 

·         If you have made a request for official information then this
will be managed in accordance with the provisions of the Official
Information Act 1982, which may include transfer to a more relevant
Minister or agency.

·         If you have made a request under the Privacy Act then this will
be managed in accordance with the principles of the Privacy Act 2020,
which may include transfer to a more relevant Minister or agency.

·         If you are a journalist then your request will be referred to
the Press Secretary.  

·         If your email relates to Green Party policy, your email will be
redirected to [1][email address]

·         To find out more about Minister Shaw read his [2]biography or
recent [3]statements.

 

 

Ngâ mihi

Office of Hon James Shaw
Reception +64 4 817 6663 | Ministerial Email [4][James Shaw request email] |
Web [5]beehive.govt.nz |
Postal Freepost Parliament, Private Bag 18 041, Parliament Buildings,
Wellington 6160, New Zealand

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From: J Shaw (MIN)
James Shaw

Kia ora Steven,

On behalf of the Hon James Shaw, I wish to officially acknowledge your Official Information request received by our office on Monday, 3 April 2023 requesting:

• any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents or other communication that references RCP 8.5.

We will endeavour to respond to your request as soon as possible, and, in any event no later than Thursday, 4 May 2023. If we are unable to respond to your request by then, we will notify you of an extension of that timeframe.

Ngâ mihi,

The Office of Hon James Shaw
Minister of Climate Change | Associate Minister for the Environment (Biodiversity) | Green Party Co-Leader
Room 2.025, Parliament House| Private Bag 18041 | Wellington 6160 | New Zealand
The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Cranston <[FOI #22365 email]>
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2023 1:00 PM
To: J Shaw (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: [OIA579] Official Information request - Why is RCP 8.5 still being used in NZ?

Dear James Shaw,

Can you please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents or other communication that references RCP 8.5.

The IPCC has recently made the assessment that RCP 8.5 is implausible, I am interested as to why the NZ Government has not removed it from legislation and other climate change documents.

Yours faithfully,

Steven Cranston

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From: Patricia Parre

Tçnâ koe Steven,

 

Interpretation and clarification of your Official Information Act 1982
request

I refer to your Official Information Act 1982 (the Act) request of 3 April
2023 seeking information about advice and communications about the RCP 8.5
scenario. Specifically, your request was for the following: Can you please
provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents or other
communication that references RCP 8.5. The IPCC has recently made the
assessment that RCP 8.5 is implausible, I am interested as to why the NZ
Government has not removed it from legislation and other climate change
documents.

 

We have interpreted your request to be related to the IPCC AR6 Synthesis
Report released on 20 March 2023, and that you are interested in whether
the NZ Government has considered any policy changes in light of this IPCC
report. On that basis, we are seeking to clarify the scope of your request
to be: Please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents,
or other communication that reference the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change AR6 Synthesis Report and RCP 8.5, dated between 20 March
2023 and 3 April 2023.

 

Could you please confirm if you agree to this interpretation, or if there
is other information you are looking for?

 

This refinement and clarification will enable the Minister to better
respond to your request. In the absence of any refinement and
clarification, the Minister is likely to require an extension, or may
consider refusing these points of your request under 18(f) of the Act -
that the information requested cannot be made available without
substantial collation or research.

 

Ngâ mihi,

 

Patricia Parre

 

Patricia (Trish) Parre (she/her)| Private Secretary – Climate Change |
Office of Hon James Shaw MP
Minister of Climate Change | Associate Minister for the Environment
(Biodiversity)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Cranston <[1][FOI #22365 email]>
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2023 1:00 PM
To: J Shaw (MIN) <[2][email address]>
Subject: [OIA579] Official Information request - Why is RCP 8.5 still
being used in NZ?

 

Dear James Shaw,

 

Can you please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents
or other communication that references RCP 8.5.

 

The IPCC has recently made the assessment that RCP 8.5 is implausible, I
am interested as to why the NZ Government has not removed it from
legislation and other climate change documents.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Steven Cranston

 

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From: Patricia Parre

Tçnâ koe Steven,

 

Can you please confirm if you agree to the below interpretation?

 

Ngâ mihi,

 

Patricia

 

Patricia (Trish) Parre (she/her)| Private Secretary – Climate Change |
Office of Hon James Shaw MP
Minister of Climate Change | Associate Minister for the Environment
(Biodiversity)

 

From: Patricia Parre
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2023 6:50 PM
To: [FOI #22365 email]
Cc: J Shaw (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: RE: [OIA579] Official Information request - Why is RCP 8.5 still
being used in NZ?

 

Tçnâ koe Steven,

 

Interpretation and clarification of your Official Information Act 1982
request

I refer to your Official Information Act 1982 (the Act) request of 3 April
2023 seeking information about advice and communications about the RCP 8.5
scenario. Specifically, your request was for the following: Can you please
provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents or other
communication that references RCP 8.5. The IPCC has recently made the
assessment that RCP 8.5 is implausible, I am interested as to why the NZ
Government has not removed it from legislation and other climate change
documents.

 

We have interpreted your request to be related to the IPCC AR6 Synthesis
Report released on 20 March 2023, and that you are interested in whether
the NZ Government has considered any policy changes in light of this IPCC
report. On that basis, we are seeking to clarify the scope of your request
to be: Please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents,
or other communication that reference the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change AR6 Synthesis Report and RCP 8.5, dated between 20 March
2023 and 3 April 2023.

 

Could you please confirm if you agree to this interpretation, or if there
is other information you are looking for?

 

This refinement and clarification will enable the Minister to better
respond to your request. In the absence of any refinement and
clarification, the Minister is likely to require an extension, or may
consider refusing these points of your request under 18(f) of the Act -
that the information requested cannot be made available without
substantial collation or research.

 

Ngâ mihi,

 

Patricia Parre

 

Patricia (Trish) Parre (she/her)| Private Secretary – Climate Change |
Office of Hon James Shaw MP
Minister of Climate Change | Associate Minister for the Environment
(Biodiversity)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Cranston <[1][FOI #22365 email]>
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2023 1:00 PM
To: J Shaw (MIN) <[2][email address]>
Subject: [OIA579] Official Information request - Why is RCP 8.5 still
being used in NZ?

 

Dear James Shaw,

 

Can you please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents
or other communication that references RCP 8.5.

 

The IPCC has recently made the assessment that RCP 8.5 is implausible, I
am interested as to why the NZ Government has not removed it from
legislation and other climate change documents.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Steven Cranston

 

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From: Steven Cranston

Dear Patricia Parre,

No that is the wrong interpretation. The UN released an update on global warming projections pre COP-27, they revised the expected warming to 2.5 deg C by 2100 and confirmed that RCP 8.5 is implausible so will no longer use it. I am seeking to understand what steps the NZ Government has made to better align with the updated warming projections?

All comms on RCP 8.5 from a week prior to COP 27 would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Yours sincerely,

Steven Cranston

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Tēnā koe Steven,

Please find attached a response from the Minister of Climate Change.

Ngā mihi,

Patricia

Patricia (Trish) Parre (she/her)| Private Secretary – Climate Change | Office of Hon James Shaw MP
Minister of Climate Change | Associate Minister for the Environment (Biodiversity)

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Cranston <[FOI #22365 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 27 April 2023 2:25 PM
To: Patricia Parre <[email address]>
Subject: RE: [OIA579] Official Information request - Why is RCP 8.5 still being used in NZ?

Dear Patricia Parre,

No that is the wrong interpretation. The UN released an update on global warming projections pre COP-27, they revised the expected warming to 2.5 deg C by 2100 and confirmed that RCP 8.5 is implausible so will no longer use it. I am seeking to understand what steps the NZ Government has made to better align with the updated warming projections?

All comms on RCP 8.5 from a week prior to COP 27 would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Yours sincerely,

Steven Cranston

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Tçnâ koe Steven,

Can you please confirm if you agree to the below interpretation?

Ngâ mihi,

Patricia

Patricia (Trish) Parre (she/her)| Private Secretary – Climate Change | Office of Hon James Shaw MP Minister of Climate Change | Associate Minister for the Environment
(Biodiversity)

From: Patricia Parre
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2023 6:50 PM
To: [FOI #22365 email]
Cc: J Shaw (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: RE: [OIA579] Official Information request - Why is RCP 8.5 still being used in NZ?

Tçnâ koe Steven,

Interpretation and clarification of your Official Information Act 1982 request

I refer to your Official Information Act 1982 (the Act) request of 3 April
2023 seeking information about advice and communications about the RCP 8.5 scenario. Specifically, your request was for the following: Can you please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents or other communication that references RCP 8.5. The IPCC has recently made the assessment that RCP 8.5 is implausible, I am interested as to why the NZ Government has not removed it from legislation and other climate change documents.

We have interpreted your request to be related to the IPCC AR6 Synthesis Report released on 20 March 2023, and that you are interested in whether the NZ Government has considered any policy changes in light of this IPCC report. On that basis, we are seeking to clarify the scope of your request to be: Please provide any text messages, emails, meeting notes, documents, or other communication that reference the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change AR6 Synthesis Report and RCP 8.5, dated between 20 March
2023 and 3 April 2023.

Could you please confirm if you agree to this interpretation, or if there is other information you are looking for?

This refinement and clarification will enable the Minister to better respond to your request. In the absence of any refinement and clarification, the Minister is likely to require an extension, or may consider refusing these points of your request under 18(f) of the Act - that the information requested cannot be made available without substantial collation or research.

Ngâ mihi,

Patricia Parre

Patricia (Trish) Parre (she/her)| Private Secretary – Climate Change | Office of Hon James Shaw MP Minister of Climate Change | Associate Minister for the Environment
(Biodiversity)

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From: Steven Cranston

Dear Patricia Parre,

Thank you for your response.

I have interpreted your response as confirmation that this Government has not taken any steps to exclude RCP 8.5 from being used in legislation despite the UN saying it is implausible?

Please correct this statement if it is not the government position.

Yours sincerely,

Steven Cranston

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