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From: Lisa
Dear Ministry of Health,
Under the Official Information Act I request information on long COVID as follows.
1. Please confirm how long COVID cases are identified, coded and recorded.
2. Please confirm the number of long COVID cases in New Zealand since we have started recording this information and break into age groups in 10 year brackets.
3. Please confirm the vaccine status of the long COVID cases using unvaccinated (no COVID vaccine received), partially vaccinated (1 COVID vaccine received), fully vaccinated (2 COVID vaccines received) and boosted (2 COVID vaccines and at least 1 booster received).
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Yours faithfully,
Lisa
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From: Lisa <[FOI #20256 email]>;
Received: Wed Aug 17 2022 15:23:24 GMT+1200 (New Zealand Standard Time)
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>; OIA <[email address]>;
Subject: Official Information request - Long COVID numbers
Dear Ministry of Health,
Under the Official Information Act I request information on long COVID as
follows.
1. Please confirm how long COVID cases are identified, coded and recorded.
2. Please confirm the number of long COVID cases in New Zealand since we
have started recording this information and break into age groups in 10
year brackets.
3. Please confirm the vaccine status of the long COVID cases using
unvaccinated (no COVID vaccine received), partially vaccinated (1 COVID
vaccine received), fully vaccinated (2 COVID vaccines received) and
boosted (2 COVID vaccines and at least 1 booster received).
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Yours faithfully,
Lisa
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Kia ora Lisa
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Hi Chris
The definition for long COVID itself includes those vaccine side effects but yes I agree with you.
From: Lisa
Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you for your reply, unfortunately I have waited before for data that was going to be made public and when it was did not match my request.
Can you please confirm the report that will be made available in two months will contain the data I have requested.
If it will not please review your response.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
From: OIA Requests
Kia ora Lisa
Thank you for your email.
To clarify, the response you received stated that Manatū Hauora will begin
reporting on long COVID conditions in the next 2 months. This means that
data will start being collected in that time. This is why your request was
refused under section 18(g)(i), as the data is not currently held
by Manatū Hauora. We invite you to make another request at the end of the
year.
The Ministry stands by its response given to you on 14 September
2022. Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the
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From: Lisa <[FOI #20256 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2022 08:13
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Response to your request for official information ref:
H2022010466
Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you for your reply, unfortunately I have waited before for data that
was going to be made public and when it was did not match my request.
Can you please confirm the report that will be made available in two
months will contain the data I have requested.
If it will not please review your response.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
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Kia ora Lisa
Please find attached a response to your request for official information.
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Athina Andonatou left an annotation ()
Wow....considering this is supposedly the biggest pandemic of our time and they're using experimental technology, one would expect their record keeping to be very, very, detailed. Yet, it is not, it seems they're hiding something.
Keep up with the questions truth seekers
From: Lisa
Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you for your quick reply.
I am surprised by your answer.
As the Ministry of Health have noted “Long COVID appears to be more common among people who had severe COVID-19 symptoms when they first got sick but can also affect those who initially had mild or moderate COVID-19. Even people who initially had no symptoms may go on to develop long COVID. Long COVID is seen in all age groups. However, it appears to be less common in children and adolescents than in adults.“ on their website https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-nove...
To print this relevant data must be held.
An April 2022 presentation shared on the same web page (https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/...) also notes the Ministry will collect data and many of the other areas of focus would also have required data.
Please advise why the data collected since April 2022 is not held and available.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
From: OIA Requests
Kia ora Lisa
Thank you for your email. The data used to support the information on our
website is based upon international advice and guidance regarding long
COVID. Manatū Hauora does not hold the information to the level of
specificity you have requested.
You can find more information about this on our website. The clinical
guidelines cite the references Manatū Hauroa has used. There is also a
more technical update on the sciences news page. You can find these at:
o [1]www.health.govt.nz/publication/clinical-rehabilitation-guideline-people-long-covid-aotearoa-new-zealand
o [2]www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-resources-and-tools/covid-19-science-news
The Ministry stands by its response given to you on 14 September 2022.
Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the Ombudsman to
review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
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802 602.
Ngā mihi
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From: Lisa <[FOI #20256 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:49
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Response to your request for official information ref:
H2022010466
Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you for your quick reply.
I am surprised by your answer.
As the Ministry of Health have noted “Long COVID appears to be more common
among people who had severe COVID-19 symptoms when they first got sick but
can also affect those who initially had mild or moderate COVID-19. Even
people who initially had no symptoms may go on to develop long COVID. Long
COVID is seen in all age groups. However, it appears to be less common in
children and adolescents than in adults.“ on their website
[6]https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-nove...
To print this relevant data must be held.
An April 2022 presentation shared on the same web page
([7]https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/...)
also notes the Ministry will collect data and many of the other areas of
focus would also have required data.
Please advise why the data collected since April 2022 is not held and
available.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora Lisa
Thank you for your email.
To clarify, the response you received stated that Manatū Hauora will
begin
reporting on long COVID conditions in the next 2 months. This means that
data will start being collected in that time. This is why your request
was
refused under section 18(g)(i), as the data is not currently held
by Manatū Hauora. We invite you to make another request at the end of the
year.
The Ministry stands by its response given to you on 14 September
2022. Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the
Ombudsman to review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman
may be contacted by email at: [1][email address] or by
calling 0800 802 602.
Ngā mihi
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From: Lisa <[FOI #20256 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2022 08:13
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Response to your request for official information ref:
H2022010466
Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you for your reply, unfortunately I have waited before for data
that
was going to be made public and when it was did not match my request.
Can you please confirm the report that will be made available in two
months will contain the data I have requested.
If it will not please review your response.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
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Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you again.
Can you please advise what level of data regarding long COVID in New Zealand is held.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
Athina Andonatou left an annotation ()
May be interesting to ask for links to the sources of the international advice and guidance regarding long COVID they're basing this on
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Kia ora Lisa
Thank you for your email. To clarify, Manatū Hauora does not hold the
information to the level of specificity you have requested, as the
information you have requested is not held by the Ministry at this time.
As advised in your response letter, coding is currently being rolled out
across the health sector that will facilitate the collection of this data.
Ngā mihi
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From: Lisa <[FYI request #20256 email]>
Sent: Friday, 16 September 2022 11:27
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Response to your request for official information ref:
H2022010466
Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you again.
Can you please advise what level of data regarding long COVID in New
Zealand is held.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora Lisa
Thank you for your email. The data used to support the information on our
website is based upon international advice and guidance regarding long
COVID. Manatū Hauora does not hold the information to the level of
specificity you have requested.
You can find more information about this on our website. The clinical
guidelines cite the references Manatū Hauroa has used. There is also a
more technical update on the sciences news page. You can find these at:
o [1]www.health.govt.nz/publication/clinical-rehabilitation-guideline-people-long-covid-aotearoa-new-zealand
o [2]www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-resources-and-tools/covid-19-science-news
The Ministry stands by its response given to you on 14 September 2022.
Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the Ombudsman
to
review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
contacted by email at: [3][email address] or by calling 0800
802 602.
Ngā mihi
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From: Lisa <[FOI #20256 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2022 08:13
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Response to your request for official information ref:
H2022010466
Dear OIA Requests,
Thank you for your reply, unfortunately I have waited before for data
that
was going to be made public and when it was did not match my request.
Can you please confirm the report that will be made available in two
months will contain the data I have requested.
If it will not please review your response.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
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From: Lisa
Dear OIA Requests,
I request under the Official Information Act all data held regarding Long COVID in New Zealand.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
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Kia ora Lisa,
Thank you for your request for official information. The Ministry's
reference number for your request is: H2022013187.
As required under the Official Information Act 1982, the Ministry will
endeavour to respond to your request no later than 20 working days after
the day your request was received. If you'd like to calculate the
timeframe, you can use the Ombudsman's online calculator
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From: Lisa <[FOI #20256 email]>;
Received: Wed Sep 21 2022 15:22:35 GMT+1200 (New Zealand Standard Time)
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>; OIA <[email address]>;
Subject: Re: Response to your request for official information ref:
H2022010466
Dear OIA Requests,
I request under the Official Information Act all data held regarding Long
COVID in New Zealand.
Yours sincerely,
Lisa
-----Original Message-----
Kia ora Lisa
Thank you for your email. To clarify, Manatū Hauora does not hold the
information to the level of specificity you have requested, as the
information you have requested is not held by the Ministry at this time.
As advised in your response letter, coding is currently being rolled out
across the health sector that will facilitate the collection of this
data.
Ngā mihi
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Kia ora Lisa
Thank you for your request under the Official Information Act 1982 (the
Act) to Manatû Hauora (the Ministry of Health) on 21 September 2022 for
information regarding long COVID-19 in New Zealand. You requested:
“I request under the Official Information Act all data held regarding Long
COVID in New Zealand.”
As you were advised on 14 September 2022 under OIA reference H2022010466,
Manatû Hauora does not yet hold data on long COVID-19.
Coding is currently being rolled out across the health sector. Manatû
Hauora expects to begin reporting on long COVID conditions in the near
future, once there is regular use of the code allowing this information to
be tracked. Therefore, your request is refused under section 18(g)(i) as
the information requested is not held by Manatû Hauora. You may wish to
make a new request for this information at the end of the year.
Publicly available information regarding long COVID can be found at the
following links:
* [1]www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-health-advice-public/about-covid-19/long-covid
* [2]www.health.govt.nz/news-media/news-items/long-covid-guidelines-released
Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the Ombudsman to
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Athina Andonatou left an annotation ()
Given that it is an experimental gene therapy and the biggest injectathon of our time you would think they'd be gathering as much data as possible, especially so they could show their substance works. When these organisations are not forthcoming with information or are selective in the data they record and keep it makes you think they know that it is the injected that are experiencing this 'long covid' and that data showing that would not suit the narrative. Just a thought
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Please provide the information in my original request for all periods any data is held to the date of response.
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Lisa
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From: Lisa
Dear OIA Requests,
Given five months has passed since I was advised codes were being used I would like to know why you are unable to respond. The original response told me to request this later in the 2022 year and I decided to wait until early 2023 to be sure there was sufficient data.
While I appreciate you resending me one of the later responses I would appreciate your confirmation you have looked at the data available and not just read the last response and resent it.
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Lisa
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Chris McCashin left an annotation ()
Hi Lisa,
Suspect I could tell you the results once they put this information together.
Long Covid - Vaccinated - 100%
Long Covid - Unvaccinated - 0%
And long covid should probably be defined as ongoing health issues from the covid vaccine due to a compromised immune system. The truth always comes out and despite the MOH playing games with obfuscation, hidden information, misleading datasets amongst others the information starting to filter through is not on the governments side. Sadly thousands of lives have been ruined.
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