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Data and Model behind your use of the term "Cumulative Risk" about kiwis returning from overseas

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From: Raghu P Pushpakath

Dear Chris Hipkins,

This request is made to you since you hold the portfolio of Minister for COVID-19 Response.

I am a New Zealander living overseas for past few years, trying to return to New Zealand.

This request is about certain terms/numbers you used during the Covid Update Press Conference on November 17 2021.

For your reference, the transcript is here in the Govt website: https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-levels-and...

1) You said "So we have to deal with the cumulative risk". Assuming that you used the term "Cumulative Risk" from a Mathematics/Statistics perspective, what all data have you collected about Kiwis returning home and what statistical models have your team created about the threats/risks they bring in, in order for you to come up with this "Cumulative Risk" decision ?

2) You said "if we’re getting even 10 cases per 1000, if we’re having 5,000 or 6,000 per day coming into the country...". How did you make this assumption of 5000-6000 arrivals per day? How many flights does your statistical model predict to come into the country, and how many passengers in average per flight?

3) You also said "if we’re getting even 10 cases per 1000". For last many days/weeks, we have not seen these many infections from the border in any of the daily Covid updates from your department. How did your statistical model come up with this figure and based on what data?

For all of the above questions, Please share all of the data and the underlying statistical model details as part of the response. I am a mathematician and I would like to understand the data and the models behind these decisions/conclusions/statements.

Yours faithfully,
Raghu

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From: C Hipkins (MIN)
Chris Hipkins

Kia ora

 

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When is Hon Chris Hipkins expected to respond? He is now well outside the statutory OIA response timeframes.

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Could this please be followed up?

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Chris Hipkins

Attachment OIA0494 Raghu Pushpakath.pdf
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Dear Raghu

Please find attached letter from Hon Chris Hipkins in response to your email of 20 November 2021

Kind regards,

Office of Hon Chris Hipkins
Minister for COVID-19 Response | Minister of Education | Minister of the Public Service | Leader of the House
Parliament Buildings, Private Bag 18041, Wellington 6160, New Zealand

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From: Raghu P Pushpakath [mailto:[FOI #17632 email]]
Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2021 2:32 AM
To: C Hipkins (MIN) <[Chris Hipkins request email]>
Subject: Official Information request - Data and Model behind your use of the term "Cumulative Risk" about kiwis returning from overseas - Ref: OIA0494

Dear Chris Hipkins,

This request is made to you since you hold the portfolio of Minister for COVID-19 Response.

I am a New Zealander living overseas for past few years, trying to return to New Zealand.

This request is about certain terms/numbers you used during the Covid Update Press Conference on November 17 2021.

For your reference, the transcript is here in the Govt website: https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-levels-and...

1) You said "So we have to deal with the cumulative risk". Assuming that you used the term "Cumulative Risk" from a Mathematics/Statistics perspective, what all data have you collected about Kiwis returning home and what statistical models have your team created about the threats/risks they bring in, in order for you to come up with this "Cumulative Risk" decision ?

2) You said "if we’re getting even 10 cases per 1000, if we’re having 5,000 or 6,000 per day coming into the country...". How did you make this assumption of 5000-6000 arrivals per day? How many flights does your statistical model predict to come into the country, and how many passengers in average per flight?

3) You also said "if we’re getting even 10 cases per 1000". For last many days/weeks, we have not seen these many infections from the border in any of the daily Covid updates from your department. How did your statistical model come up with this figure and based on what data?

For all of the above questions, Please share all of the data and the underlying statistical model details as part of the response. I am a mathematician and I would like to understand the data and the models behind these decisions/conclusions/statements.

Yours faithfully,
Raghu

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