Source of information for Chart on RNZ article 16/11/2021
Helen Wallis made this Official Information request to Ministry of Health
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From: Helen Wallis
Dear Ministry of Health,
I am requesting the data set that you have used to make the chart supplied to RNZ for their article on the 16/11 which compares the number of vaccinated/un-vaccinated people in regards to cases, hospitalizations and deaths.
I am also requesting any and documentation given to the Prime Minister and or her cabinet about vaccinating teachers to protect our children.
It seems contradictory to the statement in the Vaccine TAG Tuesday 2 November 2021 which stated and I quote " The benefit risk ratio was not as obvious for this group (5-11) as for older populations, as COVID-19 presents as a mild disease in this age group and there appears to be an increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination in younger age groups"
Yours faithfully,
Helen Wallis
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Tēnā koe Helen
Thank you for your request under the Official Information Act 1982 (the
Act) to the Ministry of Health (the Ministry) on 16 November 2021 for
information regarding COVID-19. A response to each part of your request is
outlined below.
I am requesting the data set that you have used to make the chart supplied
to RNZ for their article on the 16/11 which compares the number of
vaccinated/un-vaccinated people in regards to cases, hospitalizations and
deaths.
The Ministry regualary publishes data on our website regading cases
hospitalisations and deaths. Many of the media groups create their own
tables and visual aids based on the publicly availible information on our
website. You may be interested in the folloing links:
o [1]www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-case-demographics
o [2]https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/ne...
o Please be advised, the Ministry is currently undergoing an update to
enhance its reporting processes for those cases that have required
hospital level care. This work is due to be completed by the end of
January. If you would like to make a request for updated information,
we encourage you to do so then.
I am also requesting any and documentation given to the Prime Minister and
or her cabinet about vaccinating teachers to protect our children.
It seems contradictory to the statement in the Vaccine TAG Tuesday 2
November 2021 which stated and I quote " The benefit risk ratio was not as
obvious for this group (5-11) as for older populations, as COVID-19
presents as a mild disease in this age group and there appears to be an
increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination in younger age groups
The Ministry does not provide information directly to the Prime Minister
or Cabinet. All information is directed through the appropriate Minister.
Additonally, while the Act allows people in New Zealand to ask for
information, there is no obligation under the Act for agencies subject to
it to create new information, compile information they do not hold, or
provide or prove an opinion. Asking the Ministry to comment on a statement
by te CVTAG, or provide information to prove its validity is not a request
for official information. Therefore your request is refused under section
18(g) on the grounds that the information is not held by the Ministry.
You may be interested in the following cabinet paper which has been
published by the Ministry of Education:
[3]www.assets.education.govt.nz/public/Documents/our-work/information-releases/Advice-Seen-by-our-Ministers/October-2021/Education-System-Vaccination-and-Testing-Requirements-Redacted.pdf.
Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the Ombudsman to
review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be
contacted by email at: [4][email address] or by calling 0800
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From: Helen Wallis
Dear OIA Requests,
Apologies for not understanding the process the MoH follows to get information to the prime minister with the request "I am also requesting any and all documentation given to the Prime Minister and
or her cabinet about vaccinating teachers to protect our children."
I would like to amend it to I am requesting any and all (including but not limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons involved with the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to employee, advisor, recipient of information) to the Ministry of Health to the Minister of health and/or the Director general of health about the effect (benefits, risks, social consequences, loss of staff etc) of vaccinating teachers to protect children.
I am also requesting any and all (including but not limited to) studies made, research funded, documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons involved with the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to employee, advisor, recipient of information) to the Minister of Health and/or the Director general of health about the effect of vaccinating children in all age groups from 0 -18 years.
I would like to request any and all (including but not limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes received from or sent to the New Zealand Medical council in regards to what doctors and medical staff may and may not do, say, advise, prescribe, or question in regards to Covid 19: in general, treatment thereof (pre and post infection), vaccination, natural immunity generated.
I would also like to request any and all (including but not limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes that the MoH has in regards to the omicron variant of covid 19.
Yours sincerely,
Helen Wallis
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Kia ora,
Thank you for your Official Information Act (the Act) request. This is
an automatic reply to let you know we received it.
Due to the COVID-19 global pandemic response, the Ministry is experiencing
significantly higher volumes of queries and requests for information. We
will endeavour to acknowledge your request as soon as possible. Further
information about COVID-19 can be found on our
website: [1]https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/dise...
Please be advised that due dates for requests received from 29 November
2021 onwards take into account the following periods:
Christmas (25 December 2021)
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Day after News Year's Day (2 January 2022)
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Kia ora Helen,
Thank you for your follow up request for official information. The Ministry's reference number for your request is: H202117600.
Please be advised that due dates for requests received from 29 November 2021 onwards take into account the following periods:
Christmas (25 December 2021)
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Your request has been logged and you can expect a reply no later than 01 February 2022 as required under the Official Information Act 1982.
Due to the COVID-19 global pandemic response, the Ministry is experiencing significantly higher volumes of queries and requests for information. If we are unable to respond to your request within this time frame, we will notify you of an extension of that time frame.
If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate to get in touch.
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From: Helen Wallis <[FOI #17603 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:11 pm
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Your request for information, ref: H202116567
Dear OIA Requests,
Apologies for not understanding the process the MoH follows to get information to the prime minister with the request "I am also requesting any and all documentation given to the Prime Minister and or her cabinet about vaccinating teachers to protect our children."
I would like to amend it to I am requesting any and all (including but not limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons involved with the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to employee, advisor, recipient of information) to the Ministry of Health to the Minister of health and/or the Director general of health about the effect (benefits, risks, social consequences, loss of staff etc) of vaccinating teachers to protect children.
I am also requesting any and all (including but not limited to) studies made, research funded, documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons involved with the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to employee, advisor, recipient of information) to the Minister of Health and/or the Director general of health about the effect of vaccinating children in all age groups from 0 -18 years.
I would like to request any and all (including but not limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes received from or sent to the New Zealand Medical council in regards to what doctors and medical staff may and may not do, say, advise, prescribe, or question in regards to Covid 19: in general, treatment thereof (pre and post infection), vaccination, natural immunity generated.
I would also like to request any and all (including but not limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and meeting minutes that the MoH has in regards to the omicron variant of covid 19.
Yours sincerely,
Helen Wallis
-----Original Message-----
Tēnā koe Helen
Thank you for your request under the Official Information Act 1982 (the
Act) to the Ministry of Health (the Ministry) on 16 November 2021 for information regarding COVID-19. A response to each part of your request is outlined below.
I am requesting the data set that you have used to make the chart supplied to RNZ for their article on the 16/11 which compares the number of vaccinated/un-vaccinated people in regards to cases, hospitalizations and deaths.
The Ministry regualary publishes data on our website regading cases hospitalisations and deaths. Many of the media groups create their own tables and visual aids based on the publicly availible information on our website. You may be interested in the folloing links:
o [1]www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-case-demographics
o [2]https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/ne...
o Please be advised, the Ministry is currently undergoing an update to enhance its reporting processes for those cases that have required hospital level care. This work is due to be completed by the end of January. If you would like to make a request for updated information, we encourage you to do so then.
I am also requesting any and documentation given to the Prime Minister and or her cabinet about vaccinating teachers to protect our children.
It seems contradictory to the statement in the Vaccine TAG Tuesday 2 November 2021 which stated and I quote " The benefit risk ratio was not as obvious for this group (5-11) as for older populations, as COVID-19 presents as a mild disease in this age group and there appears to be an increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination in younger age groups
The Ministry does not provide information directly to the Prime Minister or Cabinet. All information is directed through the appropriate Minister.
Additonally, while the Act allows people in New Zealand to ask for information, there is no obligation under the Act for agencies subject to it to create new information, compile information they do not hold, or provide or prove an opinion. Asking the Ministry to comment on a statement by te CVTAG, or provide information to prove its validity is not a request for official information. Therefore your request is refused under section
18(g) on the grounds that the information is not held by the Ministry.
You may be interested in the following cabinet paper which has been published by the Ministry of Education:
[http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=15517&a...
Under section 28(3) of the Act, you have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review any decisions made under this request. The Ombudsman may be contacted by email at: [4][email address] or by calling 0800
802 602.
Nga mihi,
OIA Services
Government Services
Office of the Director-General
Ministry of Health
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Kia ora Helen
Thank you for your request for official information, received on 14
December 2021 for:
I would like to amend it to I am requesting any and all (including but not
limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings
minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons involved with
the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to employee, advisor,
recipient of information) to the Ministry of Health to the Minister of
health and/or the Director general of health about the effect (benefits,
risks, social consequences, loss of staff etc) of vaccinating teachers to
protect children.
I am also requesting any and all (including but not limited to) studies
made, research funded, documentation, communication, notes, emails, online
meetings minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons
involved with the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to
employee, advisor, recipient of information) to the Minister of Health
and/or the Director general of health about the effect of vaccinating
children in all age groups from 0 -18 years.
I would like to request any and all (including but not limited to)
documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and
meeting minutes received from or sent to the New Zealand Medical council
in regards to what doctors and medical staff may and may not do, say,
advise, prescribe, or question in regards to Covid 19: in general,
treatment thereof (pre and post infection), vaccination, natural immunity
generated.
I would also like to request any and all (including but not limited to)
documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and
meeting minutes that the MoH has in regards to the omicron variant of
covid 19.
We are contacting you in accordance with section 18B of the Official
Information Act 1982 (the Act) as your request, as it is currently worded,
is for a very large volume of information. Your request may be refused
under section 18(f) of the Act as the information requested cannot be made
available without substantial collation or research.
If it is possible for you to narrow the scope of your request by selecting
a time frame or specifying a topic, we may be able to provide you with
information.
Please respond by 10 January 2022 so that we can consider your refinement
in our response to your request.
We look forward to receiving your response.
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Kia ora Helen
We are contacting you regarding our previous email to you below.
If it is possible for you to narrow the scope of your request by selecting
a time frame or specifying a topic, we may be able to provide you with
information.
Please respond by 14 January 2022 so that we can consider your refinement
in our response to your request.
We look forward to receiving your response.
Ngā mihi
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Government Services
Office of the Director-General
Ministry of Health
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Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 09:26
To: [FOI #17603 email]
<[FOI #17603 email]>
Subject: Refinement of your request for official information (ref:
H202117600)
Kia ora Helen
Thank you for your request for official information, received on 14
December 2021 for:
I would like to amend it to I am requesting any and all (including but not
limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings
minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons involved with
the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to employee, advisor,
recipient of information) to the Ministry of Health to the Minister of
health and/or the Director general of health about the effect (benefits,
risks, social consequences, loss of staff etc) of vaccinating teachers to
protect children.
I am also requesting any and all (including but not limited to) studies
made, research funded, documentation, communication, notes, emails, online
meetings minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons
involved with the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to
employee, advisor, recipient of information) to the Minister of Health
and/or the Director general of health about the effect of vaccinating
children in all age groups from 0 -18 years.
I would like to request any and all (including but not limited to)
documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and
meeting minutes received from or sent to the New Zealand Medical council
in regards to what doctors and medical staff may and may not do, say,
advise, prescribe, or question in regards to Covid 19: in general,
treatment thereof (pre and post infection), vaccination, natural immunity
generated.
I would also like to request any and all (including but not limited to)
documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and
meeting minutes that the MoH has in regards to the omicron variant of
covid 19.
We are contacting you in accordance with section 18B of the Official
Information Act 1982 (the Act) as your request, as it is currently worded,
is for a very large volume of information. Your request may be refused
under section 18(f) of the Act as the information requested cannot be made
available without substantial collation or research.
If it is possible for you to narrow the scope of your request by selecting
a time frame or specifying a topic, we may be able to provide you with
information.
Please respond by 10 January 2022 so that we can consider your refinement
in our response to your request.
We look forward to receiving your response.
Ngā mihi
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Ministry of Health
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From: Helen Wallis
Dear OIA Requests,
I will glady refine my request.
To be able to do this please let me know which topics that you do not have information on.
Please also let me know the time frame which has the information that I am seeking.
If you respond to this before the 14th of January then I will be able to amend my request.
Yours sincerely,
Helen Wallis
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Kia ora Helen
As you have been advised, your request, as it is currently worded, is for
a very large volume of information. Your request may be refused under
section 18(f) of the Act as the information requested cannot be made
available without substantial collation or research.
If it is possible for you to narrow the scope of your request by selecting
a time frame or specifying a particular topic you are interested in, we
may be able to provide you with information. For example, a time frame
could be the last two months.
Ngā mihi
OIA Services
Government Services
Office of the Director-General
Ministry of Health
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From: Helen Wallis <[FOI #17603 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2022 09:32
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Refinement of your request for official information (ref:
H202117600)
Dear OIA Requests,
I will glady refine my request.
To be able to do this please let me know which topics that you do not have
information on.
Please also let me know the time frame which has the information that I am
seeking.
If you respond to this before the 14th of January then I will be able to
amend my request.
Yours sincerely,
Helen Wallis
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Kia ora Helen
We are contacting you regarding our previous email to you below.
If it is possible for you to narrow the scope of your request by
selecting
a time frame or specifying a topic, we may be able to provide you with
information.
Please respond by 14 January 2022 so that we can consider your refinement
in our response to your request.
We look forward to receiving your response.
Ngā mihi
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From: Helen Wallis
Dear OIA Requests,
The scope is defined before each section.
Please focus this section on the communication to the minister of health and Director general of health. for the last two months leading up to the vaccination mandate for teachers.
I would like to amend it to I am requesting any and all (including but not
limited to) documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings
minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons involved with
the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to employee, advisor,
recipient of information) to the Minister of
health and/or the Director general of health about the effect (benefits,
risks, social consequences, loss of staff etc) of vaccinating teachers to
protect children.
Please focus the following on the the time period 1st October 2021 - 31 December 2021. Please ensure that all information from all time frames are included regarding the benefit to risk is discussed for children aged 5-11
I am also requesting any and all (including but not limited to) studies
made, research funded, documentation, communication, notes, emails, online
meetings minutes and meeting minutes provided by any and all persons
involved with the Ministry of Health (including but not limited to
employee, advisor, recipient of information) to the Minister of Health
and/or the Director general of health about the effect of vaccinating
children in all age groups from 0 -18 years.
The following section need not be refined as I imagine there is a summary already made.
I would like to request any and all (including but not limited to)
documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and
meeting minutes received from or sent to the New Zealand Medical council
in regards to what doctors and medical staff may and may not do, say,
advise, prescribe, or question in regards to Covid 19: in general,
treatment thereof (pre and post infection), vaccination, natural immunity
generated.
Omicron is relatively new therefore a time frame doesn't make sense.
I would also like to request any and all (including but not limited to)
documentation, communication, notes, emails, online meetings minutes and
meeting minutes that the MoH has in regards to the omicron variant of
covid 19.
Yours sincerely,
Helen Wallis
From: OIA Requests
Kia ora Helen
Please find attached a letter regarding your request for information.
Ngā mihi
OIA Services
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Ministry of Health
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