"Social licence"
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From: Thomas Harvey
Dear Deputy Prime Minister,
This is to request under the Official Information Act 1982 all information you hold in a ministerial or deputy prime ministerial capacity regarding the definition or use of the term "social licence".
Ngā mihi,
Thomas Harvey
From: Hon Grant Robertson
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From: Hon Grant Robertson
Dear Thomas Harvey
On behalf of the Hon Grant Robertson, Minister of Finance, I acknowledge receipt of your letter of 7 November 2021 requesting:
"all information you hold in a ministerial or deputy prime ministerial capacity regarding the definition or use of the term "social licence".
Your request was received in this office on 8 November 2021 and will be responded to under the provisions of the Official Information Act.
Yours sincerely
Katy Greco-Ainslie
Private Secretary
Katy Greco-Ainslie | Private Secretary | Office of Hon Grant Robertson
Deputy Prime Minister | Minister of Finance | Minister for Infrastructure | Minister for Racing | Minister for Sport and Recreation
Member of Parliament for Wellington Central
Private Bag 18 888 |Parliament Buildings |Wellington 6011 www.beehive.govt.nz
The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated.
Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’ portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list: date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...
From: Thomas Harvey [mailto:[FOI #17474 email]]
Sent: Sunday, 7 November 2021 12:23 PM
To: G Robertson (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - "Social licence"
Dear Deputy Prime Minister,
This is to request under the Official Information Act 1982 all information you hold in a ministerial or deputy prime ministerial capacity regarding the definition or use of the term "social licence".
Ngā mihi,
Thomas Harvey
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Kia ora Thomas
The Treasury was asked by the Minister of Finance’s Office to assist in
drafting a reply to an OIA request you submitted on 8 November 2021,
copied below.
all information you hold in a ministerial or deputy prime ministerial
capacity regarding the definition or use of the term "social licence".
Your request, as currently framed, lacks due particularity as required by
12(2) of Official Information Act as it does not include a timeframe for
the information being sought, the type of information requested is not
stated and no particular topics or areas have been provided (e.g ‘social
license in regard to housing, or wage subsidy’).
Due to the lack of due particularity and broad scope of your request, it
is likely to be refused under section 18(f) of the Official Information
Act as substantial manual collation would be required to provide the
information requested.
As such, I would like to suggest refining your request, so we are able to
make the proper considerations on the information you are seeking. I
recommend refining your request, for example by requesting:
o all official documents held in a ministerial or deputy prime
ministerial capacity regarding the definition or use of the term
"social licence” for housing for the last 6 months.
Please note that once you have amended or clarified your request, under
section 15(1AA) of the Official Information Act, the Ministry may treat
your amended or clarified request as a new request that replaces the
original request. This may lead to a new start of the statutory response
period.
I look forward to hearing from you regarding the refinement of your
request.
Thanks
Nat
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From: Thomas Harvey
Dear Nat
Thank you for your message.
May I clarify that I was asking specifically requesting information specifically about the definition or use of the TERM "social licence", not for e.g., all documents using this term or concept.
For that reason it's hard for me to refine the request without changing its subject.
I would be happy to help clarify further if possible.
Thomas Harvey
From: Hon Grant Robertson
Letter from Hon Grant Robertson, Minister of Finance, attached.
Katy Greco-Ainslie | Private Secretary | Office of Hon Grant Robertson
Deputy Prime Minister | Minister of Finance | Minister for Infrastructure | Minister for Racing | Minister for Sport and Recreation
Member of Parliament for Wellington Central
Private Bag 18 888 |Parliament Buildings |Wellington 6011 www.beehive.govt.nz
The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated.
Please note information about meetings related to the Ministers’ portfolios will be proactively released (this does not include personal or constituency matters). For each meeting in scope, the summary would list: date, time (start and finish), brief description, location, who the meeting was with, and the portfolio. If you attend a meeting with the Minister on behalf of an organisation, the name of the organisation will be released. If you are a senior staff member at an organisation, or meet with the Minister in your personal capacity, your name may also be released. The location of the meeting will be released, unless it is a private residence. The proactive release will be consistent with the provisions in the Official Information Act, including privacy considerations. Under the Privacy Act 1993 you have the right to ask for a copy of any personal information we hold about you, and to ask for it to be corrected if you think it is wrong. If you’d like to ask for a copy of your information, or to have it corrected, or are concerned about the release of your information in the meeting disclosure, please contact the sender. You can read more about the proactive release policy at https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releas...
From: Thomas Harvey [mailto:[FOI #17474 email]]
Sent: Sunday, 7 November 2021 12:23 PM
To: G Robertson (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: Official Information request - "Social licence"
Dear Deputy Prime Minister,
This is to request under the Official Information Act 1982 all information you hold in a ministerial or deputy prime ministerial capacity regarding the definition or use of the term "social licence".
Ngā mihi,
Thomas Harvey
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Mark Hanna left an annotation ()
So... does the Minister then not have a working definition for the term "Social licence"? Or did he just not consider writing it down?
The Ombudsman's guide to section 18(e) of the OIA makes it clear that information held in the minds of employees (and ministers) in their official capacity but has not yet been reduced to writing is official information, and should be considered for release when it is requested.
https://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/reso...
"As noted above, agencies are deemed to hold information held by their officers, employees, or members in their official capacity. This applies to current officers, employees or members, not former ones.
This includes... Information held in the minds of employees that has not yet been reduced to writing. Such information must be known to the individual (meaning it is clear, certain or established), and able to be recalled. Obviously, the more recent the information, the more likely it can be recalled. On request, any unrecorded information should be reduced to writing and released, unless there is a good reason for withholding. Reducing unrecorded information to writing does not amount to the creation of new information. Rather, it is the provision of existing information in a different form."
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