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Amanda Murtagh made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
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From: Amanda Murtagh
Dear New Zealand Police,
Under what circumstances, when Police provide call centre chronologies regarding 111 calls, do the Police then ask to be supplied with the information they supplied?
Yours faithfully,
Amanda Murtagh
From: Ministerial Services
New Zealand Police
Tēnā koe Amanda
I acknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act (OIA) request below, received by New Zealand Police on 16 August 2021.
Your request is being actioned pursuant to the OIA. You can expect a response to your request on or before 13 September 2021.
Kind regards, Michelle
Ministerial Services PNHQ
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From: SMALLEY, Barry
New Zealand Police
Dear Ms Murtagh
Thank you for answering my phone call this morning and clarifying the
request that we have received from you.
I can confirm Police would not ask you to return information provided to
you by Police under the Official Information Act
Regards
Barry Smalley
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From: Amanda Murtagh
Dear SMALLEY, Barry,
I refer to my original question:
Under what circumstances, when Police provide call centre chronologies regarding 111 calls, do the Police then ask to be supplied with the information they supplied?
Yours sincerely,
Amanda Murtagh
From: SMALLEY, Barry
New Zealand Police
Good Morning Ms Murtagh
In response to your original question. Under what circumstances, when Police provide call centre chronologies regarding 111 calls, do the Police then ask to be supplied with the information they supplied?
I explained in my response that there are no circumstances were the Police would ask to be provided with the information they have sent to you. I believe that the situation you found yourself in was an error on the part of our communicator.
Yours Sincerely
Barry H. Smalley
Inspector | Operations Manager
Northern Emergency Communications Centre
Response and Operations Group
P +64 9 488 9578
M +64 21 192 1043
E [email address]
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From: Amanda Murtagh
Dear SMALLEY, Barry,
Thank you for your response.
For avoidance of doubt due to the wording of your last response, I am not seeking a personal belief regarding my question but a position from the NZ Police. To answer my original question, what was the circumstance as to why a Case Management Support Unit official (communicator) requested the information to be supplied by me again back to them? E.g:
a. Police did not have this information?
b. Police wished to establish what information was supplied by the Police because there were irregularities regarding the integrity of the information held in the Police system?
c. Police wished to establish what (evidence) the member of the public had? Etc.
Yours sincerely,
Amanda Murtagh
From: SMALLEY, Barry
New Zealand Police
Kia Ora Ms Murtagh
It is clear that you are not happy with any of my responses and I cannot give you any response that is organisational wide as I simply don't know. I can only answer from personal knowledge and a common sense approach.
In this email you have provided three scenarios.
a. This clearly does not make sense, if we have supplied information then we obviously have access to it.
b. We do not need the actual information back to establish this. I assume that there was an event number as a point of referral.
c. Refer previous point.
What are you wishing to establish, is there a question that you haven't raised. We seem to be dancing around the issue that you have not asked.
I have referred your email back to our Ministerial Services workgroup.
Nga Mihi
Barry H. Smalley
Inspector | Operations Manager
Northern Emergency Communications Centre
Response and Operations Group
P +64 9 488 9578
M +64 21 192 1043
E [email address]
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From: Amanda Murtagh
Dear SMALLEY, Barry,
I am not happy with the response because the question remains unanswered:
Under what circumstances, when Police provide call centre chronologies regarding 111 calls, do the Police then ask to be supplied with the information they supplied?
If it helps, I am happy to reword the question:
Why did the Police request 111 call chronologies from me?
Was it because one of the call chronologies is false?
I have not heard from the Ministerial Services workgroup that this OIA was referred to.
Please can I receive an update on this matter.
Yours sincerely,
Amanda Murtagh
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