Printed from https://fyi.org.nz/request/16000-organ-harvesting-in-new-zealand?unfold=1 on April 26, 2024 09:09

Organ Harvesting in New Zealand

K Roe (Account suspended) made this Official Information request to Ministry of Health

The request was successful.

From: K Roe (Account suspended)

Dear Ministry of Health,

1) Does blood count as an organ?

2) Please can you inform me about the paperwork requirements of showing that blood samples have been given under a process of informed consent.

I am concerned that when the Covid comes people may be involuntarily anesthetised and kept on a ventillator for the purpose of harvesting their blood and blood derived products (serum, antibodies) to give to the people who... I don't know... Pay a Koha donation for such things or whatever is customary for treatment in the Public Hospital System of New Zealand.

This will help inform my decision about:

Whether vaccination (or emmigration) is right for me. Whether I seek medical care or not under any circumstances. Etc etc.

There's none so blind as those who will not see (and there's those who may as well have their jaws wired shut) etc.

Yours faithfully,

K Roe

Link to this

From: OIA Requests

Kia ora,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

Please be advised that blood is not considered an organ. Technically,
blood is a liquid pumped by the heart which transports oxygen and
nutrients to the cells and carries away carbon dioxide and other waste
products. 

 

Regarding the consent process for providing blood samples, you may wish to
contact NZ Blood for this information:
[1]https://www.nzblood.co.nz/contact-us/ or 0800 448 325.

In New Zealand it would be illegal to administer treatment without
informed consent.            

 

Information relating to the COVID-19 Vaccination can be found on the
Ministry of Health website:
[2]https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/dise....

 

Further COVID-19 Vaccine information can be found on Medsafe's website:
[3]https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/vac....

 

Kind regards,

 

OIA Services

Government Services

Office of the Director-General

Ministry of Health

E: [4][email address]

 

-----Original Message-----

From: K Roe <[5][FOI #16000 email]>

Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2021 11:43 am

To: OIA Requests <[6][email address]>

Subject: Official Information request - Organ Harvesting in New Zealand

 

Dear Ministry of Health,

 

1)  Does blood count as an organ?

 

2)  Please can you inform me about the paperwork requirements of showing
that blood samples have been given under a process of informed consent.

 

I am concerned that when the Covid comes people may  be involuntarily
anesthetised and kept on a ventillator for the purpose of harvesting their
blood and blood derived products (serum, antibodies) to give to the people
who...  I don't know...  Pay a Koha donation for such things or whatever
is customary for treatment in the Public Hospital System of New Zealand.

 

This will help inform my decision about:

 

Whether vaccination (or emmigration) is right for me.  Whether I seek
medical care or not under any circumstances.  Etc etc.

 

There's none so blind as those who will not see (and there's those who may
as well have their jaws wired shut) etc.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

K Roe

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------

 

This is an Official Information request made via the FYI website.

 

Please use this email address for all replies to this request:

[7][FOI #16000 email]

 

Is [8][Ministry of Health request email] the wrong address for Official Information
requests to Ministry of Health? If so, please contact us using this form:

[9]https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=15517&...

 

Disclaimer: This message and any reply that you make will be published on
the internet. Our privacy and copyright policies:

[10]https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=15517&...

 

If you find this service useful as an Official Information officer, please
ask your web manager to link to us from your organisation's OIA or LGOIMA
page.

 

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------

 

****************************************************************************
Statement of confidentiality: This e-mail message and any accompanying
attachments may contain information that is IN-CONFIDENCE and subject to
legal privilege.
If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate,
distribute or copy this message or attachments.
If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender
immediately and delete this message.
****************************************************************************

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared
by the Ministry of Health's Content and Virus Filtering Gateway

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

References

Visible links
1. https://www.nzblood.co.nz/contact-us/
2. https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/dise...
3. https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/vac...
4. mailto:[email address]
5. mailto:[FOI #16000 email]
6. mailto:[email address]
7. mailto:[FOI #16000 email]
8. mailto:[Ministry of Health request email]
9. https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=15517&...
10. https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=15517&...

hide quoted sections

Link to this

From: K Roe (Account suspended)

Dear OIA Requests,

Thank you very much for your timely response.

I will follow up with the courts re the taking of blood without informed consent (from someone who was not in the position to provide consent given they were under a treatment order).

If I could just add a quick follow up:

Is bone marrow an organ?

(I am thinking about slavery supply chain issues to do with sourcing kiddies cancer treatments etc).

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

From: OIA Requests

Kia ora,

Yes, bone marrow is an organ.

You may also want to review the PubMed website of the National Library of Medicine, which is part of the National Institutes of Health in the United States. PubMed
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/) is a free resource supporting the search and retrieval of biomedical and life sciences literature.

Kind regards,

OIA Services
Government Services
Office of the Director-General
Ministry of Health
E: [email address]

-----Original Message-----
From: K Roe <[FOI #16000 email]>
Sent: Friday, 9 July 2021 12:00 pm
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Official Information request - Organ Harvesting in New Zealand

Dear OIA Requests,

Thank you very much for your timely response.

I will follow up with the courts re the taking of blood without informed consent (from someone who was not in the position to provide consent given they were under a treatment order).

If I could just add a quick follow up:

Is bone marrow an organ?

(I am thinking about slavery supply chain issues to do with sourcing kiddies cancer treatments etc).

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

-----Original Message-----

Kia ora,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

Please be advised that blood is not considered an organ. Technically, blood is a liquid pumped by the heart which transports oxygen and nutrients to the cells and carries away carbon dioxide and other waste products. 

 

Regarding the consent process for providing blood samples, you may wish to contact NZ Blood for this information:
[1]https://www.nzblood.co.nz/contact-us/ or 0800 448 325.

In New Zealand it would be illegal to administer treatment without informed consent.            

 

Information relating to the COVID-19 Vaccination can be found on the Ministry of Health website:
[2]https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/dise....

 

Further COVID-19 Vaccine information can be found on Medsafe's website:
[3]https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/vac....

 

Kind regards,

 

OIA Services

Government Services

Office of the Director-General

Ministry of Health

E: [4][email address]

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Please use this email address for all replies to this request:
[FOI #16000 email]

Disclaimer: This message and any reply that you make will be published on the internet. Our privacy and copyright policies:
https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=15517&...

If you find this service useful as an Official Information officer, please ask your web manager to link to us from your organisation's OIA or LGOIMA page.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
****************************************************************************
Statement of confidentiality: This e-mail message and any accompanying
attachments may contain information that is IN-CONFIDENCE and subject to
legal privilege.
If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate,
distribute or copy this message or attachments.
If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender
immediately and delete this message.
****************************************************************************

*************************************************************************************
This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared
by the Ministry of Health's Content and Virus Filtering Gateway
*************************************************************************************

hide quoted sections

Link to this

From: K Roe (Account suspended)

Dear OIA Requests,

Thank you very much for your timely and informative response.

I have a problem with PubMed because it is not full text. Fortunately I am able to obtain medical texts from from BookDepository UK and there are high quality internationally peer reviewed publications available online so I need not resort to those hidden behind a dark web kind of a pay-wall of University Subscription.

I am thinking about why it costs so much to get a peer reviewed publication when the journal needs to hire people to independently audit the data etc etc for the purposes of keeping the quality of the journal reputable...

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

Things to do with this request

Anyone:
Ministry of Health only: