Informed consent for proprietary software used at NZ public schools?

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From: Dave Lane

Dear Ministry of Education,

Almost all NZ's public school kids are at either a "Google" or "Microsoft" school. Their curriculums are tightly tied to Google Docs or Microsoft Office 365. Most also use the SeeSaw classroom/portfolio system extensively. All of these are foreign corporate proprietary software with most or all student data hosted outside the NZ jurisdiction.

Who at the Ministry reviews & approves the Terms & Conditions of all these proprietary applications? Where are their analyses and guidance for schools and parents published for review? How often are these Ts&Cs revisited and re-analysed, given that all of the software vendors stipulate "these terms can change at any time without notice"?

Who clicks "I ACCEPT" on behalf of each student for each of these proprietary apps? As a parent, I've never been asked to approve the use of any of these applications for my children. Wouldn't this be required by the software proprietors to claim "informed consent"? Doesn't having a non-parent or guardian accepting it on behalf of parents and students constitute a breach of the terms of all these applications?

How does the Ministry fulfil its statutory obligations to public school children whose informed parents quite reasonably reject the Ts&Cs of one or more of these proprietary services as unacceptable impositions on their children's freedom, privacy, and data sovereignty?

What advice have you received on these issues from your legal advisors? Who have you consulted to provide suggestions for less controversial software options and what advice have your received? For example, that you could adopt open source options that could be commercially hosted on behalf of the Ministry onshore in the NZ jurisdiction, where the Ministry can then set the Ts&Cs (similar to how apps like Moodle and Mahara (aka My Portfolio) are hosted currently)?

Yours faithfully,

Dave Lane

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Subject: [BULK] Official Information request - Informed consent for
proprietary software used at NZ public schools?

 

Dear Ministry of Education,

 

Almost all NZ's public school kids are at either a "Google" or "Microsoft"
school. Their curriculums are tightly tied to Google Docs or Microsoft
Office 365. Most also use the SeeSaw classroom/portfolio system
extensively. All of these are foreign corporate proprietary software with
most or all student data hosted outside the NZ jurisdiction.

 

Who at the Ministry reviews & approves the Terms & Conditions of all these
proprietary applications? Where are their analyses and guidance for
schools and parents published for review? How often are these Ts&Cs
revisited and re-analysed, given that all of the software vendors
stipulate "these terms can change at any time without notice"?

 

Who clicks "I ACCEPT" on behalf of each student for each of these
proprietary apps? As a parent, I've never been asked to approve the use of
any of these applications for my children. Wouldn't this be required by
the software proprietors to claim "informed consent"? Doesn't having a
non-parent or guardian accepting it on behalf of parents and students
constitute a breach of the terms of all these applications?

 

How does the Ministry fulfil its statutory obligations to public school
children whose informed parents quite reasonably reject the Ts&Cs of one
or more of these proprietary services as unacceptable impositions on their
children's freedom, privacy, and data sovereignty? 

 

What advice have you received on these issues from your legal advisors?
Who have you consulted to provide suggestions for less controversial
software options and what advice have your received? For example, that you
could adopt open source options that could be commercially hosted on
behalf of the Ministry onshore in the NZ jurisdiction, where the Ministry
can then set the Ts&Cs (similar to how apps like Moodle and Mahara (aka My
Portfolio) are hosted currently)?

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Dave Lane

 

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We back ourselves and others to win  Ka manawanui ki a mātou, me ētahi ake
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