Stolen vehicles dataset from the 2017 till now
Amantay Abdurakhmanov made this Official Information request to New Zealand Police
The request was refused by New Zealand Police.
From: Amantay Abdurakhmanov
Dear New Zealand Police,
Actual snapshot of stolen vehicles that published on your site contains only actually stolen cars with no information about already recovered vehicles https://www.police.govt.nz/stolenwanted/...
Could you please kindly provide me with this information retrospectively from the very beginnig of 2017 year till now. It may be a single dataset with added "recovery date" column or multiple daily snapshots which I can then combine by myself.
This information needed for my research project at AUT.
Yours faithfully, Amantay Abdurakhmanov
New Zealand Police
Hello Amantay
Iacknowledge receipt of your Official Information Act 1982 (OIA) request
for the below information.
Yourrequest is being actioned pursuant to the OIA.
Kind regards
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
-----Amantay Abdurakhmanov
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From: Amantay Abdurakhmanov
<[FOI #10860 email]>
Date: 31/07/2019 10:43PM
Subject: Official Information request - Stolen vehicles dataset from the
2017 till now
Dear New Zealand Police,
Actual snapshot of stolen vehicles that published on your site contains
only actually stolen cars with no information about already recovered
vehicles [1]https://www.police.govt.nz/stolenwanted/...
Could you please kindly provide me with this information retrospectively
from the very beginnig of 2017 year till now. It may be a single dataset
with added "recovery date" column or multiple daily snapshots which I can
then combine by myself.
This information needed for my research project at AUT.
Yours faithfully, Amantay Abdurakhmanov
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Dear Amantay,
I refer toyour Official Information Act (OIA) request dated 31 July 2019
in which you requested:
“Actual snapshot of stolen vehicles that published on your site contains
only actually stolen cars with no information about already recovered
vehicles [1]https://www.police.govt.nz/stolenwanted/...
Could you please kindly provide me with this information retrospectively
from the very beginning of 2017 year till now. It may be a single dataset
with added "recovery date" column or multiple daily snapshots which I
canthen combine by myself.”
Police proactively release statistics to the public, which are updated
monthly. This information is available online at policedata.nz. You will
be able to obtain crime statistics that Police produces from
[2]policedata.nz . The‘Demand and Activity’ report will be the most useful
for your purposes. Please read the instructions on the summary page on how
to use these reports.
For this particular instance, please do the following:
· Go to policedata.nz and double click on the “Demand and
Activity” report
· From the ‘Demand and Activity’ report, select the tab labelled
‘Districts and Regions’
· Select the time period you require by moving the sliding bar on
“Select time Period”
· You will find the information you requested from the ‘Recorded
Events/Occurrences’ chart of the report
· “Illegal Use of a Motor Vehicle” and “Theft of a Motor Vehicle”
falls under the “Crime” Occurrence Type Category, the “Theft and related
Offences” Occurrence Division and the “Motor Vehicle Theft and Related
Offences” Occurrence Subdivision.
· The Occurrence Subdivision “Recovery Motor Vehicle” falls under
the “Activity” Occurrence Type Category and the “Investigation and
Forensics Activities” Occurrence Division. Please note that you need to
click on the icon that has “square with a + in it” over the “Occurrence
Division” heading to expand the categories to show the Occurrence
Subdivision.
· The “Police Boundaries” and the “Trend” tables automatically
updates when you highlight/select these specific occurrence categories
· Finally, you can download detailed information about these data
using the download icon at the bottom of the page andselecting “Data”.
The above information from policedata.nz represents a more accurate
picture of stolen vehicles as compared with the ‘Stolen vehicles’ page on
the Police website which only presents a snapshot of the data from the
Police vehicle of interest database.
I trust this information is sufficient for your purposes. If you have any
questions regarding this data, please feel free to contact me via
[3][email address].
You have theright to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision if you are
not satisfied with Police’s response to your request.
Regards,
Dr Shereede Malmanche
Chief DataScientist
EvidenceBased Policing Centre
NewZealand Police
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From: Amantay Abdurakhmanov
Dear New Zealand Police,
Thank you for your explanations and proposals, but it actually not cover my request.
I need data about car features - model, color, date of production and ID for matching stolen and recovered ones.
Could you please provide me with that information?
Yours faithfully,
Amantay Abdurakhmanov
New Zealand Police
Dear Amatay
I acknowledge your below request.
As this is significantly more specific than your original question
outlined below, it will be treated as a new request under the Official
Information Act 1982 ( OIA).
As such your request has been actioned pursuant the OIA.
Kind regards
Ministerial Services
Police National Headquarters
-----Amantay Abdurakhmanov
<[FOI #10860 email]> wrote: -----
To: OIA/LGOIMA requests at New Zealand Police
<[New Zealand Police request email]>
From: Amantay Abdurakhmanov
<[FOI #10860 email]>
Date: 02/09/2019 11:17AM
Subject: Re: Official Information request - Stolen vehicles dataset from
2017 till now
Dear New Zealand Police,
Thank you for your explanations and proposals, but it actually not cover
my request.
I need data about car features - model, color, date of production and ID
for matching stolen and recovered ones.
Could you please provide me with that information?
Yours faithfully,
Amantay Abdurakhmanov
-----Original Message-----
Dear Amantay,
I refer toyour Official Information Act (OIA) request dated 31 July 2019
in which you requested:
“Actual snapshot of stolen vehicles that published on your site contains
only actually stolen cars with no information about already recovered
vehicles [1] [1]https://www.police.govt.nz/stolenwanted/...
Could you please kindly provide me with this information retrospectively
from the very beginning of 2017 year till now. It may be a single
dataset
with added "recovery date" column or multiple daily snapshots which I
canthen combine by myself.”
Police proactively release statistics to the public, which are updated
monthly. This information is available online at policedata.nz. You will
be able to obtain crime statistics that Police produces from
[2]policedata.nz . The‘Demand and Activity’ report will be the most
useful
for your purposes. Please read the instructions on the summary page on
how
to use these reports.
For this particular instance, please do the following:
· Go to policedata.nz and double click on the “Demand and
Activity” report
· From the ‘Demand and Activity’ report, select the tab labelled
‘Districts and Regions’
· Select the time period you require by moving the sliding bar
on
“Select time Period”
· You will find the information you requested from the ‘Recorded
Events/Occurrences’ chart of the report
· “Illegal Use of a Motor Vehicle” and “Theft of a Motor
Vehicle”
falls under the “Crime” Occurrence Type Category, the “Theft and related
Offences” Occurrence Division and the “Motor Vehicle Theft and Related
Offences” Occurrence Subdivision.
· The Occurrence Subdivision “Recovery Motor Vehicle” falls
under
the “Activity” Occurrence Type Category and the “Investigation and
Forensics Activities” Occurrence Division. Please note that you need to
click on the icon that has “square with a + in it” over the “Occurrence
Division” heading to expand the categories to show the Occurrence
Subdivision.
· The “Police Boundaries” and the “Trend” tables automatically
updates when you highlight/select these specific occurrence categories
· Finally, you can download detailed information about these
data
using the download icon at the bottom of the page andselecting “Data”.
The above information from policedata.nz represents a more accurate
picture of stolen vehicles as compared with the ‘Stolen vehicles’ page
on
the Police website which only presents a snapshot of the data from the
Police vehicle of interest database.
I trust this information is sufficient for your purposes. If you have
any
questions regarding this data, please feel free to contact me via
[3][email address].
You have theright to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision if you are
not satisfied with Police’s response to your request.
Regards,
Dr Shereede Malmanche
Chief DataScientist
EvidenceBased Policing Centre
NewZealand Police
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addressee only and may contain privileged information. It may also be
subject to the provisions of section 50 of the Policing Act 2008, which
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you
are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this
message in error, you must not peruse, use, distribute or copy this
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reflect
those of the New Zealand Police. If you have received this message in
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2.
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From: Amantay Abdurakhmanov
Dear New Zealand Police,
My last explanation is not specific than original question.
Daily snapshot of stolen vehicles published on your site already contains basic car features.
I just ask exactly those information retrospectively from 2017.
Yours faithfully,
Amantay Abdurakhmanov
New Zealand Police
Dear Amantay,
I refer to your follow up question dated 2 September 2019 relating to our
response to your Official Information Act (OIA) request in which you
requested data about the features of cars stolen and recovered.
I regret to inform you that statistics on stolen and recovered vehicles
from the ‘Demand and Activity’ report on [1]policedata.nz do not publish
specific details of vehicles such as the model, colour, date of production
and ID. Requests may be refused where Police would be required “to conduct
research of source data to generate fresh information in a form different
from that in which the base data is held”. The OIA does not require an
organisation that has the capacity to create information to do so in order
to respond to a request [refer section 18(g) of the OIA].
The details available on the ‘ [2]Stolen Vehicles’ page on the Police
website is just a snapshot of stolen vehicles and do not represent the
total list of all reported stolen vehicles. It may not necessarily be
accurate due to the lag in reporting or recording of vehicles that are
stolen or recovered. The page is an alternative option for individuals,
including would be purchasers of vehicles, to confirm if a vehicle is
stolen or not.
I regret that on this occasion it has not been possible to provide the
information you have requested. If you have any questions, feel free to
contact me via [3][email address] .
You have the right to ask the Ombudsman to review my decision if you are
not satisfied with Police’s response to your request.
Regards,
Dr Sheree de Malmanche
Chief Data Scientist
Evidence Based Policing Centre
New Zealand Police
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Mark Hanna left an annotation ()
I'm not certain what guideline Police are quoting from here. However, this is not the first time I've seen Police claim that information is not held because they would have to create it. After I complained to the Office of the Ombudsman about this sort of reasoning in August 2018, they published a guidance document on "Information not held". On page 10 of this document is a section on "Creation vs collation":
https://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/reso...
"Creation versus collation
As noted above, there is no obligation to create information in order to respond to a request. However, there is an obligation to collate information that is already held. Sometimes it can be tricky to determine whether a task amounts to the collation of existing information, or the creation of new information.
A task is likely to amount to the creation of new information if:
- it requires the application of complex skill, judgement or interpretation; and
- the new information is fundamentally different to the existing information.
An agency will normally be collating existing information, rather than creating new information, where:
- it presents existing information in the form of a list or schedule;
- answering the request involves simple manual compilation of information in the agency’s
records;
- it extracts information from an electronic database by searching it in the form of a query."
It does not seem immediately clear that you have asked for information that is "fundamentally different" to information held by NZ Police. I don't believe they are justified in this refusal, and you could consider laying a complaint with the Office of the Ombudsman.
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