Public health and ethical considerations, re Covid-19 vaccinations

ASE made this Official Information request to Ministry of Health

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From: ASE

Dear Ministry of Health,

Given that SARS-Cov-2, the virus that causes Covid-19 is prone to mutate, and given that leaky vaccines (such as current vaccines against SARS-Cov-2) are known to select for and promote vaccine restraint mutations/strains of viruses, and given that certain populations (eg young and healthy people) have very low risk of poor outcome from Covid-19, particularity the currently dominant B.1.617.2/Delta strain,

What public health and ethical considerations has The Ministry of Health evaluated in balancing (a) the wider promotion of a Covid-19/SARS-Cov-2 vaccine, which may be likely to produce more asymptomatic carriers and more vaccine resistant strains, against (b) limiting vaccine use for people who are at risk of poor outcome from Covid-19, due to age, obesity, or other well documented comorbidities which predict poor outcome from Covid-19?

eg, how has The Ministry of Health considered public health and ethical arguments against vaccinating people with very low risk of poor outcome from Covid-19, since both asymptomatic spread (exacerbated by vaccinated people not knowing they're contagious, and/or risk compensation of vaccinated people, among other factors) and vaccine resistant strains of SARS-Cov-2 may both likely be outcomes of wider promotion of Covid-19 vaccines, and lead to a worse public health outcome?

If The Ministry of Health has not evaluated this public health and ethical trade-off, then why were such public health and ethical considerations not accounted for?

Thank you for your time and attention,

A S Emet

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Kia ora,

 

Thank you for your request for official information received on 18
September 2021 for:

 

"Given that SARS-Cov-2, the virus that causes Covid-19 is prone to mutate,
and given that leaky vaccines (such as current vaccines against
SARS-Cov-2) are known to select for and promote vaccine restraint
mutations/strains of viruses, and given that certain populations (eg young
and healthy people) have very low risk of poor outcome from Covid-19,
particularity the currently dominant B.1.617.2/Delta strain,

 

What public health and ethical considerations has The Ministry of Health
evaluated in balancing (a) the wider promotion of a Covid-19/SARS-Cov-2
vaccine, which may be likely to produce more asymptomatic carriers and
more vaccine resistant strains, against (b) limiting vaccine use for
people who are at risk of poor outcome from Covid-19, due to age, obesity,
or other well documented comorbidities which predict poor outcome from
Covid-19?

 

eg, how has The Ministry of Health considered public health and ethical
arguments against vaccinating people with very low risk of poor outcome
from Covid-19, since both asymptomatic spread (exacerbated by vaccinated
people not knowing they're contagious, and/or risk compensation of
vaccinated people, among other factors) and vaccine resistant strains of
SARS-Cov-2 may both likely be outcomes of wider promotion of Covid-19
vaccines, and lead to a worse public health outcome?

 

If The Ministry of Health has not evaluated this public health and ethical
trade-off, then why were such public health and ethical considerations not
accounted for?”

 

A secondary request for official information was received on 18 September
2021 for:

 

“What considerations has The Ministry of Health given to Covid-19
treatment protocols such as the FLCCC Alliance's MATH+, I-MASK+ and
I-RECOVER Protocols?

Considering the results of those FLCCC protocols, on what balance of
evidence are those protocols not being promoted as standard of care for
both the prevention and treatment of Covid-19 in New Zealand?”

 

The Ministry of Health has consolidated your requests and the reference
number for your request is: H202112576.

 

As required under the Official Information Act 1982, the Ministry will
endeavour to respond to your request no later than 15 October 2021, being
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significantly higher volumes of queries and requests for information. If
we are unable to respond to your request within this time frame, we will
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From: ASE

Dear Ministry of Health,

Reference: H202112576

A substantive response to this request was due by 15 Oct 2021, and is now nearly a month overdue.

I am looking forward to a substantive response as soon as possible.

Thank you,

AS Emet

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Kia ora AS Emet,
Please find attached the response to your request that you were sent on 8
October 2021.

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From: ASE <[FOI #16789 email]>
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2021 15:45
To: OIA Requests <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Acknowledgement of your request for official information
(ref: H202112576)
 
Dear Ministry of Health,

Reference: H202112576

A substantive response to this request was due by 15 Oct 2021, and is now
nearly a month overdue.

I am looking forward to a substantive response as soon as possible.

Thank you,

AS Emet

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Kia ora,

  

 Thank you for your request for official information received on 18
 September 2021 for:

  

 "Given that SARS-Cov-2, the virus that causes Covid-19 is prone to
mutate,
 and given that leaky vaccines (such as current vaccines against
 SARS-Cov-2) are known to select for and promote vaccine restraint
 mutations/strains of viruses, and given that certain populations (eg
young
 and healthy people) have very low risk of poor outcome from Covid-19,
 particularity the currently dominant B.1.617.2/Delta strain,

  

 What public health and ethical considerations has The Ministry of Health
 evaluated in balancing (a) the wider promotion of a Covid-19/SARS-Cov-2
 vaccine, which may be likely to produce more asymptomatic carriers and
 more vaccine resistant strains, against (b) limiting vaccine use for
 people who are at risk of poor outcome from Covid-19, due to age,
obesity,
 or other well documented comorbidities which predict poor outcome from
 Covid-19?

  

 eg, how has The Ministry of Health considered public health and ethical
 arguments against vaccinating people with very low risk of poor outcome
 from Covid-19, since both asymptomatic spread (exacerbated by vaccinated
 people not knowing they're contagious, and/or risk compensation of
 vaccinated people, among other factors) and vaccine resistant strains of
 SARS-Cov-2 may both likely be outcomes of wider promotion of Covid-19
 vaccines, and lead to a worse public health outcome?

  

 If The Ministry of Health has not evaluated this public health and
ethical
 trade-off, then why were such public health and ethical considerations
not
 accounted for?”

  

 A secondary request for official information was received on 18 September
 2021 for:

  

 “What considerations has The Ministry of Health given to Covid-19
 treatment protocols such as the FLCCC Alliance's MATH+, I-MASK+ and
 I-RECOVER Protocols?

 Considering the results of those FLCCC protocols, on what balance of
 evidence are those protocols not being promoted as standard of care for
 both the prevention and treatment of Covid-19 in New Zealand?”

  

 The Ministry of Health has consolidated your requests and the reference
 number for your request is: H202112576.

  

 As required under the Official Information Act 1982, the Ministry will
 endeavour to respond to your request no later than 15 October 2021, being
 20 working days after the day your request was received.

  

 Due to the COVID-19 global pandemic response, the Ministry is
experiencing
 significantly higher volumes of queries and requests for information. If
 we are unable to respond to your request within this time frame, we will
 notify you of an extension of that time frame.

  

 If you have any queries related to this request, please do not hesitate
to
 get in touch.

  

 Ngâ mihi

  

 OIA Services

 Government Services

 Office of the Director-General

 Ministry of Health

 E: [1][email address]

  
 
 
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From: ASE

Dear Ministry of Health,

Thank you for that response.

Regarding the questions I asked,

Does this response from Ministry of Health mean that Ministry of Health has not considered or evaluated ethical considerations in balancing (a) the wider promotion of a Covid-19/SARS-Cov-2 vaccine, which may be likely to produce more asymptomatic carriers and more vaccine resistant strains, against (b) limiting vaccine use for people who are at risk of poor outcome from Covid-19, due to age, obesity, or other well documented comorbidities which predict poor outcome from Covid-19?

Does this response from Ministry of Health mean that Ministry of Health has not considered or evaluated public health and ethical arguments for and against vaccinating people with very low risk of poor outcome from Covid-19, since both asymptomatic spread (exacerbated by vaccinated people not knowing they're contagious, and/or risk compensation of vaccinated people, among other factors) and vaccine resistant strains of SARS-Cov-2 may both likely be outcomes of wider promotion of Covid-19 vaccines, and lead to a worse public health outcome?

Has Ministry of Health considered the absence of long-term safety data for these inoculations, as it relates to the above questions? Is so, how so? If not, why not?

If The Ministry of Health has not evaluated this public health and ethical trade-off, then why were such public health and ethical considerations not accounted for?

Thank you,

A S Emet

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