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CONFIRMED MINUTES
REA BOARD MEETING - MARCH 2025
At the REA Board Update Meeting - May 2025 on 7 May 2025 these minutes were
confirmed as presented.
Name: 
Real Estate Authority
Date: 
Thursday, 27 March 2025
Time: 
9:00 am  to  2:30 pm (NZDT)
Location: 
REA Office , REA Office (Teams option)
Board Members:  Denese Bates KC (Chair), Vern  Walsh, Latham Lockwood, Mele Wendt,
Caroline Tate, Mark  Coffey, Shirley McLeod
Attendees: 
Belinda Moffat, Victor  Eng, Andrew Tringham, Andrew  Bulled, Josh Doherty,
Katie Solomon, Marie  Snell, Saara Fourie
Apologies: 
Brooke Loader
1.
Opening Meeting
1.1
Board in Committee
•    Issues for discussion with the Chief Executive were agreed.
•    The Chair updated the Board on the recent Crown Entities Chairs Forum in February.
1.2
Board and CE alone time
• 
•  Board noted that some objections to the proposed changes to s72 of the REAA have been
made by the sector. REA has provided advice to MoJ on this issue.
•  Board confirmed that they wished to reappoint Ms Moffat for a further term. The Chair will
oversee the reappointment process, including engagement with the Public Service 
Commission.
• 
1.3
Karakia
The Senior Leadership Team (SLT) joined at 10.19am and the meeting was opened with a
Karakia.
1.4
Introduction of New Board Members
The Board Chair introduced new Board members, Mark Coffey and Caroline Tate, and the Board 
and Senior Leadership Team did a roundtable of introductions.
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Ms Tate and Mr Coffey provided overviews of their careers and experience to date, and what led 
to their interest in real estate regulation and joining the REA Board.
1.5
Confirmation of Agenda
The agenda was confirmed.
1.6
Interests Register
Changes in interests for 
 and 
 were noted (provided via email):
•    
 now 
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•    
 added 
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New interests for 
 and 
 will be recorded in BoardPro for future meetings. 
 interest was noted, and he will be recused from any Board discussions 
relating to 
1.7
Confirm Minutes
REA Board Strategy Meeting - February 2025 19 Feb 2025, the minutes were confirmed as 
presented.
REA Board Meeting - February 2025 19 Feb 2025, the minutes were confirmed as presented.
1.7.a Minutes from the 19 February 2025 Board Strategy Session
1.7.b Minutes from the 19 February 2025 Board Meeting
1.7.c Resolution approving 

 as an Audit & Risk Committee Member
Outcome: All minutes and resolutions were approved as written.
1.7.d: Audit & Risk Committee Update
The Audit and Risk Chair provided a verbal update on the ARC meeting on 17 March 2025, noting 
most items are now presented to the Board at this meeting. ARC discussions included:
•    Feedback on the first iteration of the 2025-26 SPE and budget
•    Audit fee proposal
•    Insurance renewal update
•    Risk and hazards six-monthly review
•    Audit & Risk Committee Self-Assessment
2.
Actions from Previous Meetings
2.1
Action Item List
Due Date 
Action Title 
Owner(s)
19 Feb 2025 
1) EIE to approach certificate 4 providers to analyse volumes of new 
licensees.
Status: Completed on 1 May 2025
19 Feb 2025 
2) Finalise Stakeholder Prioritiation List
 
Status: Completed on 19 Mar 2025
28 Feb 2025 
3) REA to provide a case update to the sector on the Cho decision
on compensation referrals
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
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Due Date 
Action Title 
Owner(s)
28 Feb 2025 
4) Submit the final response to the second set of Select Committee
Belinda Moffat
Annual Review questions
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
7) Comms and Engagement Approach
 
Status: Completed on 19 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
8) Industry Pānui Content Review
Status: Completed on 19 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
10) Present the proposed Regulatory Positions changes to the Board 
in March 2025
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
11) Business case (cost/benefit analysis) for evolving CWREA
events into a multi-stop roadshow event
Status: Completed on 19 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
12) Complaint completion SPE Targets
Belinda  Moffat, 
 
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
13) Stakeholder Prioritisation List: Iwi Chairs
Status: Completed on 19 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
2) 
Belinda Moffat, 
Status: Completed on 1 May 2025
 
27 Mar 2025 
15) Finalise and issue the approved February policies to staff.
Belinda Moffat
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
27 Mar 2025 
3) Provide an update to the Board on the Ringa Hora Qualifications
Review at the next meeting.
Status: Completed on 30 Apr 2025
27 Mar 2025 
17) Provide the Board with JR scenarios including proposed steps to 
be taken for each
Belinda Moffat
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
31 Mar 2025 
19) Consider inviting a housing specialist 
 to
Belinda Moffat
speak to the Board.
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
31 Mar 2025 
20) Licensee and Consumer Messaging around Complaints
Belinda  Moffat, 
 
Status: Completed on 19 Mar 2025
31 Mar 2025 
21) List of potential annual engagement opportunities at real
estate/property management conferences
Status: Completed on 19 Mar 2025
31 Mar 2025 
23) RST team to provide pre-CAC resolutions data to the Board
Status: Completed on 20 Mar 2025
21 May 2025 
8) 
Status: In Progress
31 May 2025 
9) Review of Offshore Regulatory Settings
 
Status: On Hold
31 May 2025 
10) Review NZ Information Security Manual to ensure ICT
Acceptable Use Policy compliance
Status: Completed on 2 May 2025
30 Jun 2025 
20) Māori Engagement Framework - Board Marae Visit
Belinda  Moffat 
Status: In Progress
30 Jun 2025 
21) Engagement with Māori Housing entity 
Belinda  Moffat 
Status: In Progress
30 Jun 2025 
22) Arrange a meeting with Ministers on AML and Housing
Belinda  Moffat 
Status: In Progress
30 Jun 2025 
23) Consider Māori engagement/cultural capability growth
Belinda Moffat
opportunities for Board
Status: Completed on 2 May 2025
30 Jun 2025 
24) Review CPD Complaints topic/consider facilitated pack on
 
management of low-level complaints
Status: Completed on 2 May 2025
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Due Date 
Action Title 
Owner(s)
30 Jun 2025 
25) Code of Conduct one-page summary
 
Status: In Progress
30 Jun 2025 
26) Publish short 2024 litigation overview of cases of regulatory
importance in Q4
Status: In Progress
31 Jul 2025 
27) Invite the Minister to a 2025 stakeholder event
Belinda Moffat 
Status: In Progress
22 Oct 2025 
28) Information on consumer issues relating to developers selling
directly to consumers
Status: On Hold
23 Oct 2025 
29) Home ownership models and data on acquisition pathways
Status: On Hold
The actions were taken as read and the following actions were discussed:
•  Action 5 Home ownership models and data on acquisition pathways: it was noted that Core
Logic’s research cost proposal was prohibitively high and not within budget this year. The
Board agreed to keep this action live for the next six months as it is important to 
understand the real estate environment, however this is to be put on hold until the 2025/26 
year.
•  Action 6 Information on consumer issues relating to developers selling directly to
consumers: keep this action on hold until the next financial year, as with action 5.
•  Actions 14 and 24: combine these actions as they are interrelated. Also considering 
 regarding marae visit options.
2.2
Morning Tea Break
The Board had a morning tea break at 10.48am
3.
Chief Executive's Report
3.1
CE Report
The report was taken as read and the following matters were discussed:
•  Select Committee Annual Review date has been confirmed as 21 August. The Board Chair
is not available and a date change will be sought.
•  RSAB: REA sought advice and will not make a formal submission but has provided written
advice to MoJ on the s72 amendment (letter provided in the supplemental papers folder on 
BoardPro).
• 
 
 
 
• 
 
 
•  The Board acknowledged the OIA data in paragraphs 48-49 and congratulated the team on
achieving 100% compliance.
•  The health & safety update was noted. The Board and CE discussed staff wellbeing and
stress management relating to sustained high volumes of work, along with some 
challenging staff interactions with the public following the Judicial Review appeal. REA
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leaders are monitoring the wellbeing of their people with the support of People & Capability 
team.
• 
•  Audit Fee Proposal: management did not recommend any changes to the scope of the
audit. The increase in disbursements has been reviewed and is deemed acceptable. The
Board approved the audit proposal.
Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
•  Note the contents of this report.
•  Discuss the health and Safety update and provide feedback on any issues arising.
•  Discuss and provide feedback on or endorse the Audit proposal presented at paragraph 17
of this report.
Outcome: Contents noted, health & safety matters were discussed and the Audit proposal was 
accepted. The Board approved REA applying the Board Chair’s signature to the proposal.
6) Apply the Board Chair’s signature to the Audit Fee Proposal.
Apply the Board Chair’s signature to the Audit Fee Proposal.
Due Date: 
28 Apr 2025
Owner: 
5) Seek a new Select Committee Hearing date.
Seek a new Select Committee Hearing date.
Due Date: 
16 Apr 2025
Owners: 
Belinda Moffat, 
4.
Board Papers for Approval or Discussion
4.1
Strategic Deep Dive: REAA 2008
The General Counsel introduced this paper which had been deferred from the February meeting 
due to time constraints. The paper was taken as read and the two Bills under consideration by 
Parliament were noted.
The Board discussed the following:
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Next steps:
1)    The Board agreed to further develop the eight recommended options.
2)    Prepare a prepare a letter to MoJ setting out areas for improvement of the regulatory system 
with reasons (copied to the Minister).
3)    
 
4)    Keep the Board regularly appraised of this work.
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Recommendations:
It was recommended that the Board:
a)    Discuss the key areas of potential improvement to the REAA 2008 to improve the regulatory 
system.
b)    Provide direction on the aspects on which further advice is required, and which could be 
considered for referral to the Ministry of Justice to consider.
Outcome: Discussed and direction provided above.
13) Consult with REINZ on notifying agencies of complaints.
Consult with REINZ on notifying agencies of complaints.
Due Date: 
18 Jun 2025
Owners: 
 Belinda Moffat
14) Confirm whether there is a fees framework review and whether there can be an 
exemption for CACS

Confirm whether there is an upcoming fees framework review and whether 
there can be an exemption for CACS.
Due Date: 
18 Jun 2025
Owners: 
Belinda Moffat, 
15) Discuss costs for application for review/appeals with the Tribunal 
Discuss costs for application for review/appeals with the Tribunal
Due Date: 
18 Jun 2025
Owners: 
 Belinda Moffat
16) Prepare letter to MoJ on recommended change to the REAA
Prepare letter to MoJ on recommended change to the REAA
Due Date: 
18 Jun 2025
Owners: 
 Belinda Moffat
17) Finalise advice on whether REA can notify agencies of complaints against 
licensees they employ

Finalise advice on whether REA can notify agencies of complaints against 
licensees employed by them
Due Date: 
18 Jun 2025
Owners: 
4.2
Review of REA Legal Regulatory Positions
 
 
 
 
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Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a)    Note that this paper is confidential and subject to legal professional privilege.
b)    Discuss and provide feedback on REA’s stated regulatory positions.
c)    Note and provide feedback on the recommendations for the further use of content in the 
positions paper.
Outcome: noted, discussed and the Board agreed to the further use of the regulatory positions 
paper.
4.3
Stakeholder Engagement Approach
The Head of EIE introduced this paper and highlighted the following:
•  This follows on from the Board discussion in December and the Board’s attention was
drawn to the updated slides on pg. 178-179 which include updated definitions and 
categories within priority levels.
•  The low category is now referred to as lower (as those stakeholders are still a priority).
•  Tactical plan overview is included on pg. 180 and the practical application is demonstrated
in the Conference List in Appendix B. page 181 highlights that prioritisation is occurring and 
the focus is on maximising reach in a cost effective way.
The Board discussed the following:
•  What priority is given to Settled? Staff confirmed that consumers and promotion of Settled
is a high priority with a targeted approach with stakeholders to promote Settled. A recent 
example of activities to increase consumer reach with minimal cost was through content 
sharing partnerships with TradeMe and OneRoof, and expansion to Instagram and the 
results of these partnerships will be measured.
•  Where are the consumer organisations in the high priority list, staff confirmed we access
consumers through a range of stakeholders such as property law providers banks and 
financial advisors.
•  The Board discussed consumer protection at the listings stage and encouraging
consumers to approach lawyers at that early stage.
•  Banks and brokers are in the medium priority category but consider whether they should be
high priority as a channel for reaching consumers.
•  It was agreed that promoting REA’s Settled content on websites like TradeMe and banks
increases their credibility by promoting our resources.
•  Stakeholder conferences: what are the additional 4 events? Ray White, Society of
Conveyancers, AndCo conference, and a Law Society Panel in Christchurch.
•  The Board suggested approaching the Pacific Lawyers Society to see if we could speak at
an upcoming conference.
•  The Board reiterated the need to be realistic about what we can achieve in terms of limited
resources, but it is an important strategic priority.
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•  The Head of EIE and 
 will connect to talk about Pacific network connections. 
•  The Board confirmed that it is important for REA to support informed consumers and
educated licensees and for REA to be connected to the wider real estate sector. The Board
endorsed the importance of our engagement activities as a key strategic priority, and a 
core regulatory function.
Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a)    Endorse the importance of stakeholder engagement as a strategic priority to be balanced with 
REA’s core regulatory functions.
b)    Endorse the stakeholder engagement priorities in Appendix A.
c)    Note and provide feedback on the REA conference engagement list at Appendix B.
d)    Note that the Head of EIE will prepare a final tactical engagement plan for Q4 and 2025/26 
taking into account current budget and resource for approval by the Chief Executive by May 2025.
Outcome: Noted, endorsed, and feedback was provided on the conference engagement list.
11) Prepare a tactical engagement plan for Q4 and 2025/26 for approval by the Chief 
Executive by May

Prepare a tactical engagement plan for Q4 and 2025/26 for approval by the 
Chief Executive by May 2025.
Due Date: 
31 May 2025
Owner: 
12) Connect with the Pacific Law Society
Connect with the Pacific Law Society
Due Date: 
31 May 2025
Owner: 
4.4
Changes to Strategic Environment
•    Not discussed due to time constraints.
4.5
Lunch Break
5.
Governance Papers for Approval or Discussion
5.1
Accountability Reporting: 2025-26 SPE and Budget
The CE introduced this paper and highlighted the updates made following consideration by the 
Audit & Risk Committee Meeting on 17 March 2025. The Board’s feedback was sought on the 
SPE narrative and the budget deficit prior to submission to the Ministry of Justice on 31 March
2025.
The Board discussed the following:
•  Licensee numbers: REA anticipated a reduction in licensee numbers however they appear
to be stable.
•  Pg 191 paragraph 16 models an increase to the levy, but no decision has been made as to
when this might be required. Management advised there are a few variables to be
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assessed before we seek to do this and a decision will need to be made in December 2025 
if we wish to progress a levy change.
•  The Board discussed whether over the next 3 years, rather than a $1.4m deficit would we
prefer to be breaking even by 2028 in order to be sustainable. The Board requested
Management present a cost neutral budget in June, highlighting where savings would be 
made to break even.
•  Exploring other potential revenue streams is underway.
•  It was noted that the budget only captures an additional $100,000 of complaint costs. Other
proposed costs to enhance the complaint system are still under consideration.
•  Board noted that it was comfortable with the planned deficit, noting that there would need
to be a reduction of 2000 licensees before we need to increase the levy to continue
operating on core services.
•  It was noted that if licensees numbers were to plunge resulting in a loss of revenue, REA
could:
o    Increase levies
o    explore other revenue streams
o    reduce variable costs
Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a)    Discuss and provide feedback on the draft 2025/26 SPE and Budget.
b)    Approve in principle the forecast deficit, noting the further review post Bulk Renewals.
c)    Subject to any changes, approve the provision of the draft SPE to the Ministry of Justice by 31 
March 2025.
Outcome: discussed, feedback was provided, the forecast deficit was approved in principle, and 
the Board approved the provision of the draft SPE to the Ministry of Justice.
18) Prepare a cost neutral budget including where savings could be made to 
achieve this

Prepare a cost neutral budget including identification of where savings could be 
made to achieve this.
Due Date: 
18 Jun 2025
Owners: 
Belinda Moffat, 
5.2
CPD Update: 2024 Survey Results and 2026 CPD
Topic Recommendations

This paper was taken as read and the Board discussed the following:
2024 CPD Survey Results
•  The Board noted the excellent survey results for 2024.
•  REA has 29 approved training providers and runs a train-the-trainer model. REA monitors
the training feedback on these ATPs on a monthly basis.
•  A Board member queried the potential for inaccuracy (bias) of results, given the feedback
is provided by licensees to REA as the regulator. Providing a third party survey might 
provide more accurate feedback. Management advised that feedback is on the delivery of 
CPD by the provider (not training delivered by REA). Consideration could be given to 
conducting an independent survey, noting there would be associated costs which would 
need to be budgeted for.
•  A question was raised about in-house delivery of CPD (e.g. Property Brokers) and whether
those results are higher because it is internally delivered training.
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•  Management highlighted a consistent higher result for in-person training vs. online delivery. 
•  Lower rated providers: the Board queried whether these are dips or consistently low
compared with other years. Management confirmed this was a dip and further work is
being done to delve into the reasons for those drops.
Proposed 2026 Verifiable CDP Topics
• 
.
•  Management gave an overview of the robust process used to determine CPD topics,
including discussion with the CPD Advisory Group.
•  The Board discussed the four recommended topics in paragraph 16, including the
recommended mandatory topic.
•  The Board endorsed the proposed mandatory topic on Digital Technology Use in Real
Estate and would like to ensure the topic addresses privacy risks in use of technology.
•  A Board member suggested redeveloping our disclosure topics, as it is still one of our top
complaint themes and this needs to be addressed through CPD. Current CPD disclosure
topics are not necessarily having the desired impact in the way it is currently delivered. A 
refreshed disclosure topic delivered through a new lens was supported. The topic could 
include illustrative examples asking licensees how to respond in particular scenarios.
•   Other means of reinforcing the importance of disclosure was discussed and includes
Industry pānui and other messaging avenues to provide more information around 
disclosure to the sector and consumers.
•  Decision: The Board agreed to refer disclosure back to the Education Team to consider
options. Put this back on the list for topic maintenance.
•  Unit Titles Topic: Company Share Titles were discussed - these are not a cross lease, not
a unit title, but they do overlap and there is no standardised sale and purchase agreement 
for these. Only some banks lend on these. While these might not be encountered by all 
licensees they do arise and should be captured in the Unit Titles topic. An action was 
recorded to explore these further and report back to the Board on what guidance REA 
could provide in June.
Recommendations were noted and the Board approved the mandatory topic for the 
2026 CPD Programme

Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a.    Note the contents of this paper and provide feedback on any matters 
raised.
b.    Note the proposed mandatory and elective CPD topics for the 2026 CPD 
programme.
c.    Approve the proposed mandatory CPD topic for the 2026 CPD Programme.
Outcome: Noted and approved.
Decision Date: 
27 Mar 2025
Outcome: 
Approved
19) Provide additional detail on Company Share Titles and what guidance REA 
could provide

Provide additional detail to the Board on Company Share Titles and what 
guidance REA could give on these.
Due Date: 
18 Jun 2025
Owners: 
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5.3
Complaints Update
This paper was taken as read and management highlighted the following developments:
•  Looking at some new software for managing evidence for CACs.
•  Complaints CPD topic is still being reviewed.
•  Deep-dive complaints analysis work is also underway and there are some interesting
insights which will be shared with the Board in due course.
The Board commended the REA team for the number of complaints that have been resolved to 
date, higher than any previous year and with three months remaining in the financial year.
Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a.    Note the complaints update and discuss any matters raised.
Outcome: Noted.
5.4
Risk Six-monthly Review
This paper was taken as read and the Head of Corporate Services highlighted the following:
•    Addition of climate change risk.
•    The refreshed risk bow-tie model is progressing and will be presented to ARC in April.
The Board had no comments or questions.
Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
b.    Note the Risk Report and Register and Health & Safety Hazards Register.
Outcome: Noted.
5.5
ARC Performance Self-Assessment Update
The paper was taken as read and the Committee Chair noted the timing was challenging with the 
recent changes in Board and Committee membership.
The Board approved the Committee appointments and reappointments
Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a.    Note the self-assessment conducted by the Audit & Risk Committee.
b.    Approve the reappointment of 
 and 
 to the 
Committee for terms of two years from April 2025.
c.    Approve the appointment of 
 to the Committee for a term of three 
years.
d.    Approve the appointment of 
 to the People & Capability 
Committee for a term of three years.
Outcome: Noted and approved the above appointments and reappointments.
Decision Date: 
27 Mar 2025
Outcome: 
Approved
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4) Update the appointments schedule and send Committee meeting invitations to 
the new members

Update the Board appointments schedule and send Committee meeting 
invitations to the new Committee members.
Due Date: 
31 Mar 2025
Owner: 
5.6
Insurance Programme Renewal 2025-26
This paper was taken as read and the Board had no questions or comments.
Board approved REA participating in the AoG Contract and delegated to ARC to 
approve the Insurance

Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a.    Note the progress update on the insurance programme 2025/26.
b.    Approve REA participating in the All of Government Insurance Brokering 
Services Generation 2 AOG Contract.
c.    Approve a delegation to the Audit & Risk Committee to review and approve 
the insurance programme for 2025/26.
Outcome: Noted and approved.
Decision Date: 
27 Mar 2025
Outcome: 
Approved
5.7
Systems Enhancement Project (SEP) Update
The paper was taken as read and the following matters were discussed:
• 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Recommendations
It was recommended that the Board:
a)    Note the progress of the Systems Enhancement Project.
Outcome: Noted.
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6.
Board Papers for noting
6.1
Performance Dashboard
The Performance Dashboard was noted and the Board discussed the following:
•  The Performance Dashboard was noted.
•  Discussion returned to the measures in draft SPE and the possible inclusion of explanatory
footnotes to advise why targets are lower than the previous year’s actuals.
7.
Other Business
7.1
General Business
•    Induction for Mr Coffey and Ms Tate is underway with further sessions to be planned in coming 
weeks.
7) Arrange remaining inductions meetings with new Board members. 
Saara to arrange remaining inductions meetings with new Board members.
Due Date: 
30 Apr 2025
Owner: 
Saara Fourie
7.2
Closing Karakia
The meeting was closed with a Karakia at 2.28pm.
Next meeting will be an online check-in meeting on 7 May 2025.
8.
Close Meeting
8.1
Close the meeting
Next meeting: REA Board Meeting - June 2025 - 18 Jun 2025, 9:00 am
Unuhia, unuhia                                              Draw on, draw on,
Unuhia ki te uru tapu nui                              Draw on the supreme sacredness
Kia wātea, kia māmā, te ngākau,                 To clear, to free the heart,
te tinana, te wairua t e ara takatā                 the body and the spirit of mankind
Koia rā e Rongo, whakairia ake ki runga    Rongo, suspended high above us (i.e. in ‘heaven’)
Kia tina! TINA! Hui e! TĀIKI E!                     Draw together! Affirm!
7 May 2025
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