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CONFIRMED MINUTES
BOARD MEETING 16 AUGUST 2022
At the Board Meeting 13 September 2022 on 13 Sep 2022 these minutes were confirmed as 
presented.

Name:
Real Estate Authority
Date:
Tuesday, 16 August 2022
Time:
9:00 am  to  12:25 pm
Location:
REA Office and Zoom, office and online
Board Members: Latham Lockwood, Liz Nidd, Tony Stack, Vern Walsh
Attendees:
Belinda Moffat, Andrew  Bulled, Victor  Eng, Josh Doherty, Nadine  Thomas, 
Marie  Snell, Saara Fourie
Apologies:
Mele Wendt, Phirak Appleton, Denese Bates KC (Chair)
Guests/Notes:
 Legal Services Manager (for Legal Paper)
1.
Opening Meeting
1.1
Board in Committee
Issues for discussion with the Chief Executive were agreed.
1.2
Board and CE alone time
Papers and issues identified by Board were discussed with the Chief Executive.
1.3
Karakia
The Senior Leadership Team joined and the meeting was opened with a Karakia at 10.13am.
Appointment of 
 as acting Board Chair for August Board Meeting. 
The Board noted 
 apologies as the Board Chair and resolved to 
appoint 
 as the acting Board Chair for this meeting, as per schedule 
5 of the Crown Entities Act. A quorum was confirmed.
Decision Date: 
16 Aug 2022
Mover: 
Seconder: 
Outcome: 

Approved
1.4
Confirmation of Agenda
The agenda was confirmed.
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1.5
Interests Register
The Board moved that the interests register be updated.
·         The Chief Executive highlighted a sensitive case relating 
 General Counsel to update the Conflicts Register.
·         
 interest in Classic Life and Classic Group declared and 
added to the interest register. 
·         
 declared an interest in real estate licensees: 
LJ Hooker.
Decision Date: 
16 Aug 2022
Mover: 
Seconder: 
Outcome: 

Approved
6) Update the Interests Register 
Update the Interests Register to include 
 additions.
Due Date: 
13 Sep 2022
Owner: 
7) Update the conflicts register to record potential conflict
Update the conflicts register to record the potential conflict relating to 
and a sensitive case relating to 
.
Due Date: 
13 Sep 2022
Owner: 
1.6
Confirm Minutes
Board Meeting 21 June 2022 21 Jun 2022, the minutes were confirmed as presented.
The minutes of 21 June, 6 July and 20 July 2022 were approved as true and correct.
On motions duly made and seconded, it is proposed that the minutes of 21 June 
6 July and 20 July 2022 be approved and true and correct.
Decision Date: 
16 Aug 2022
Mover: 
Seconder: 
Outcome: 

Approved
2.
Actions from Previous Meetings
2.1
Action Item List
Due Date
Action Title
Owner
30 Apr 2022
1) Awareness, Communication and Stakeholder Engagement 
Strategy
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
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Due Date
Action Title
Owner
30 Apr 2022
2) Programme Manager reporting to be captured in the performance 
report.  
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
21 Jun 2022
3) Board Training Budget 
Belinda Moffat
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
21 Jun 2022
1) REA Emails for Board
Status: In Progress
30 Jun 2022
5) Review statutory guides and effective production and best practice 
use principles for sector 
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
30 Jun 2022
2) Provide an update on ethnicity and tenure pay parity.
Status: In Progress
31 Jul 2022
3) Meeting with REINZ
Belinda Moffat
Status: In Progress
31 Jul 2022
8) CAC Training Day - 31 August 2022 
Status: Completed on 27 Jul 2022
31 Jul 2022
9) Property Management Regulation
Belinda Moffat
Status: Completed on 13 Jul 2022
16 Aug 2022
4) Pulse Survey 
Status: Completed on 29 Aug 2022
16 Aug 2022
5) License Expiry Reminders
Status: In Progress
16 Aug 2022
12) Health and Safety Agenda Item
Belinda Moffat
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
12 Sep 2022
13) Diversity and Inclusion
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
30 Sep 2022
14) Supervision
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
18 Oct 2022
10) Flexi by Default review
Status: In Progress
18 Oct 2022
11) Māori Engagement Framework - Board Marae Visit
Belinda Moffat
Status: In Progress
12 Dec 2022
17) Tangata Whenua Board Representation
Belinda Moffat
Status: Completed on 9 Aug 2022
Actions were taken as read and the following actions were discussed:
·         Action 4: Board REA emails: Further review and support to be provided to Board 
members to enable use of their REA email accounts. 
·         Action 11: Expiry of license reminders: Additional reminder actions to include:
o a text/email reminder to licensees (and agency) 48 hours prior to expiry being 
considered, complex due to licensees moving and need for permissions
o ask agencies to keep own register and reminder process
o letter from Registrar to agencies reminding licensees about their obligations and 
providing helpful tools and tips to keep track of expiry dates. 
o Discussions with other licensing regimes for insights are occurring. 
 Action 12: Health and Safety as a separate agenda item: New standing 
recommendation to discuss Health and Safety included in the CE Report. The Board 
agreed this was an appropriate approach.
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3.
Chief Executive's Report
3.1
CE Report
The report was taken as read and the following matters were discussed:
 Paragraph 16 MVP requirements: REA is in the process of removing MVP requirements 
from the workplace guidelines. The Board were supportive of REA’s approach. 
 Paragraph 36 reports EIE activities in summary form: the Board was supportive of the clear 
and succinct summary format and congratulated 
and the team on the work  
 Paragraph 29 update on rent review negotiations: 
 advised we are still in the 
negotiating process 
 
 The health and safety update was noted.
 Recommendations 
It was recommended that the Board: 
 Note the contents of this report.
 Discuss the health and safety update and provide feedback on any issues arising
 Discuss and provide feedback on any other matters raised in this report where indicated.
Outcome: Noted 
3.2
Break
4.
Committee Updates
4.1
Audit and Risk Committee Update
ARC Chair, 
, gave a verbal update on the meeting held 26 July 2022 noting the focus 
on policies, audit and end of year results and financials. Most of the papers discussed at that 
meeting have now come to this Board meeting for final approval.
4.2
People and Capability Committee Update
A verbal update was provided on the meeting held 26 July 2022, including noting the focus on 
policies for approval by the Board, and Committee consideration of gender and ethnic pay 
reporting. REA’s remuneration approach including application of the pay guidance, the updated 
Committee terms of reference.
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5.
Board Papers for Approval or Discussion
5.1
Review of Policies
The paper was taken as read and Belinda Moffat, Chief Executive, highlighted the following:
 These policies have been considered by the respective Audit and Risk and People & 
Capability Committees and were recommended for approval. The papers include the 
response, and resulting changes, from matters by the respective Committee.
 The Board considered each policy and discussed the matters below:
5.1.a Prosecution and Charging Policy   
 Endorsed by the Audit & Risk Committee.
 No additional comments from the Board.
5.1.b Litigation Management Policy  
 Endorsed by the Audit & Risk Committee.
 No additional comments from the Board.
5.1.c Enforcement of Monetary Orders Policy  
 Endorsed by the Audit & Risk Committee.
 No additional comments from the Board.
5.1.d Fraud and Corruption Policy  

highlighted that this is a new policy which now includes corruption and captures 
guidance from the Auditor-General. This should be read alongside REA’s internal control 
process which is referred to in the policy. 
 Endorsed by the Audit & Risk Committee.
 No additional comments from the Board.
5.1.e Treasury Management Policy
The Board discussed the following matters:
 The Audit and Risk Committee had discussed the 24-month investment period within policy 
and whether we go to market for best rates.
 The Chief Executive noted the amendments also provide an authorising context for use of 
funds for property regulation work.
5.1.f  Internal Complaints Policy  
 Endorsed by the People and Capability Committee.
 No additional comments from the Board.
5.1.g  Protected Disclosures Policy
 Head of People and Capability, 
, noted law firm 
 had provided 
advice on this policy. 
 People and Capability Committee discussed this policy at length and raised questions, 
including protections for process and discloser when disclosure is referred outside of our 
organisation. 
 The Committee also reiterated the need for good training for staff and managers around 
this. REA will be working on guidance and templates for managers to support them through 
the appropriate processes. 
 No additional comments from the Board.
5.1.h  Anti-bullying, Harassment and Discrimination Policy  
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 Key query raised by the People and Capability Committee was whether a single serious act 
could be considered bullying. Head of People and Capability confirmed that relevant 
legislation and case law define bullying as repeat behaviour. Single actions will be 
addressed through employment relations process and not ignored.
 Zero tolerance and mechanisms for raising issues are important. REA needs to ensure 
staff understand what bullying, discrimination or harassment look like and support a 
‘speaking up’ culture with channels available to raise issues. The wider speaking up model 
standards were noted. Management will undertake a gap analysis and identify any further 
improvements required.
Board Handbook amendment
 Paragraph 44 of the paper: proposed change to the Board Oversight of Expenditure 
section of the handbook to include training and professional development for Board 
Members. 
 Board noted the governance value of member to bodies that provide governance training 
and support
 Board requested that the amendment be adjusted to include words to capture membership 
to a body for the purposes of accessing governance training.  
5.1.i  People & Capability Terms of Reference  
 Endorsed by the People and Capability Committee.
 No additional comments from the Board. 
 The Board noted the Board Chair’s intention to reappoint 
for an additional two-year term following the changes to the Terms of Reference. 
Recommendations were approved, subject to amendment to the Board Handbook.
Recommendation: It is recommended that the Board:
·         Approve the updated Prosecution and Charging Policy
·         Approve the updated Litigation Management Policy
·         Approve the updated Enforcement of Monetary Orders Policy
·         Approve the new Fraud and Corruption Policy and note that it replaces the 
current anti-fraud policy.
·         Approve the updated Treasury Management Policy
·         Approve the updated Internal Complaints Policy
·         Approve the new Protected Disclosure Policy and note that this replaces 
the current Protected Disclosures Policy. 
·         Approve minor changes to the Anti-bullying, Harassment and 
Discrimination Policy
·         Agree that review of the Remuneration Policy be deferred to 2023
·         Approve the amendment to the Board Handbook to reflect the allocation of 
annual budget for Board training for each Board member each year 
·         Approve the updated Terms of Reference for the People and Capability 
Committee
Outcome: Subject to amendment to the Board Handbook above, all 
recommendations were approved.   
Decision Date: 
16 Aug 2022
Mover: 
Seconder: 
Outcome: 

Approved
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5.2
Accountability Reporting 
5.2.a 2021-2022 Annual Report  
The paper was taken as read and Belinda Moffat, Chief Executive highlighted the following:
 There is a need to acknowledge the excellent work that was delivered in the last year given 
that it was just as challenging, if not more so, than 2020 with the emergence of COVID-19 
again in NZ. Great results overall have been achieved.
 Where targets were not achieved, results were still strong with narratives capturing why 
they were not met.
 The Chief Executive’s opening is still to be finalised and the content will be reduced from its 
current volume. 

 discussed non-performance measures and the auditors’ intention to test a 
number of these in coming days.   
 Head of Corporate Services highlighted the following:
 Auditors are working on-site and the audit seems to be going well, with no issues raised 
other than what was previously discussed in the interim audit. 
 Change to process for formal written approval of CE leave (to support verbal and other 
approval given by the Chair) was noted. 
The Board made the following comments:
 ARC had raised a question around formal complaints: were the targets too high in the 
Statement of Intent and should this target be revisited? The CE reiterated that the targets 
cannot be adjusted in the SOI as they are set until 2025. 
 The Board acknowledged the work of the leadership team and what has been built this 
past year, with a new EIE team and a number of great pieces of work coming through 
which is very refreshing from the Board’s perspective.  
 
5.2.b 2022-23 Business Plan
 
Belinda Moffat, Chief Executive highlighted the following:
 
 This is our forward-looking, high-level snapshot for the year ahead and does not capture all 
of REA’s core business. These are key initiatives and projects. Feedback from the board 
on the operating context and priorities for the year ahead was sought.
The Board discussed the following:
 A significant reduction in licensees would not be unexpected in the next year. REA 
forecasts 10% reduction in coming year. 
 Whether the GFC provided any insights to what might be expected in the coming years
 A training pack would be so useful for licensees navigating this market. The facilitated 
meeting packs that were sent out last year were very well received and could be reissued.
 Supervision risk: have not yet seen a drop in branch managers and agents but this could 
be a risk if these numbers drop.
 There is a lot of training in the sector on ‘standing out in the marketplace’ and marketing 
strategies to get business. This may present a risk as it may drive challenging behaviour as 
licensees compete for sales. 
 REA has not been invited to speak at the REINZ Real Estate Conference The Conference 
focuses on driving brand in sales and a top Australian keynote speaker has been invited. 
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Look into this further and consider one of the licensee Board members 
going to this alongside Belinda to gain sector insights. An opportunity to speak on 
regulatory and conduct risks and issues would be welcomed.
 Trans-Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement license applications: seeing five a month, 
when some months ago there were 80 a month.
 Annual report is coming along well and can be provided to the Auditors and MoJ in draft.
Recommendations approved with one additional recommendation.
Recommendations
It is recommended that the Board:
·         Note the Annual Report 2021/22 update and timetable and provide 
feedback on the results and draft Annual Report.
·         Approve the recommendation for the Chair to sign the Audit Engagement 
Letter.
·         Provide feedback on and approve the REA 2022/23 Business Plan.
Outcome: Noted and approved
Additional recommendation: 
·         Approve the Chief Executive refining the draft and providing a copy to the 
Ministry of Justice and Auditors.
Decision Date: 
16 Aug 2022
Mover: 
Seconder: 
Outcome: 

Approved
8) Approach REINZ about the Real Estate Conference in October. 
Approach REINZ about the Real Estate Conference in October.
September 2022: BM has contacted REINZ CE for information. Emphasis is on 
sales and market techniques. Awaiting response.
Due Date: 
13 Sep 2022
Owner: 
Belinda Moffat
5.3
Communications and Engagement Strategy
, Head of Engagement, Insights and Education, took the paper as read and 
highlighted the following:
·         Three strategies have been combined in this media strategy, stakeholder engagement 
strategy and diverse communities and awareness strategy following external feedback 
from an expert on the approach we should take. 
·         This is a delivery agent for our overarching strategy and identifies six objectives.
·         The Board was invited to comment on any aspects of the strategy. 
 
The Board discussed the following:
·         paragraphs 2.6 to 2.9 – the Board agreed objectives were clearly summarised.
·         8.3 principles: the Board agreed the points we will and will not speak to were also clear.
·         Discussion was held around advertising channels, including TV.
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·         Is there a way to require licensees to direct all customers and clients to Settled and REA. 
Could we build a surveys as part of the settlement process. This would capture all buyers 
and sellers and would be great for data and insights.   
·         Guides translations: the Board shared an example where old Cantonese was used and a 
Chinese staff member noted this could cause offense. Ensure the right language is used. 
 advised our guide translation is in simplified Chinese following guidance from DIA. 
·         Paragraph 10.1.a: add in the Board alongside the Chair and Chief Executive for resources 
available to support the Communications and engagement work.
 
Recommendations 
It was recommended that the Board: 
 Discuss and provide feedback on the questions raised in this paper
 Endorse the Communications and Engagement Strategy.
 Outcome: Discussed and feedback noted. Strategy endorsed, subject to addition of Board 
in 10.1.a.
5.4
Break 
6.
Board Papers for noting
6.1
Regulatory Services Team Paper
The paper was taken as read and 
 Head of Regulatory Services, highlighted the 
following points:
 We are starting to see some reduction in complaints caseloads with outsourcing to TMR. 
 CLIP: noted a couple of changes from green to amber, including resourcing due to illness 
and staff changes. The number of workstreams are being reduced down to a more 
concentrated working group which will reduce the impact across the business. 
 A case of non-disclosure has come through recently which is similar to the case with a 
gang residence next door. 
The Board made the following comments:
 Would it be practical to refer similar cases to the same CAC that dealt with previous cases? 
Consider whether this would be an opportunity for efficiency given their previous 
experience. 
 All agencies must have procedures in place to monitor in house/internal complaints. Does 
REA monitor this? 
advised we do not audit every one.
Recommendations 
It was recommended that the Board: 
 Note the contents of the Report and provide feedback on any matters raised.
Outcome: Noted
9) CAC Allocation Process   
Consider developing a CAC allocation process to refer repeat/similar cases to 
CACs who have experienced those cases previously.   
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September 2022: Captured in CLIP recommendations schedule.
Due Date: 
30 Sep 2022
Owner: 
6.2
Legal Team Paper
 Legal Services Manager, joined the meeting for this paper.
The paper was taken as read and 
 highlighted the following:
The Board discussed the following:
 The residential sector has had extensive and repeated education on agency agreements 
and they do not need to be revisited with that group. Focus on agency agreements needs 
to be with rural and commercial. REA to ensure it has a good understanding of how it 
works in practice to support strong buy in from the sector. 
Recommendations 
It was recommended that the Board: 
 Note the contents of the Report and provide feedback on any matters raised.
Outcome: Noted
 
6.3
Quarterly People & Capability Report (Q4) 
The paper was taken as read and 
, Head of People & Capability, highlighted the 
following:
 Management is considering tracking pre-COVID productivity implications of COVID and 
working from home against current. The hypothesis is that COVID will have had an impact 
but other matters impact productivity including delays by parties, absences, recruitment 
challenge and workload. Hybrid working and flexibility is important to staff and a key 
attraction in recruitment. Managers are asked to work with individuals on what works best 
for individual and team and output. We want to be outcomes focused, so this is the focus. 
Questions on productivity at home and work will be included in the upcoming staff 
engagement survey around this.    
 Rate of attrition: acknowledged that it is high at 29% for the last year but remains 
consistent with last five years. Turnover does impact capacity and People and Capability is 
looking at our approach to retention. 
The Board discussed the following:
 Approach to sick leave: 
 advised that REA operates under PSC guidance and we 
have made a commitment to support staff who are experiencing COVID symptoms or 
ongoing issues after contracting COVID. REA offers special leave on a case-by-case basis 
if staff have exhausted their sick leave allocation. This is escalated to the Chief Executive 
via managers. We will apply these principles to anyone who might present with long 
COVID.  Priority is to support a good recovery at the outset, through paid sick leave.
 Pay restraints and parity with new joiners: Pay restraints have been challenging, and 
recruitment in the current market has also added pressures. 
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 Pay impedes recruitment. Parity adjustments were made in the last 
remuneration round.
Recommendations  
It was recommended that the Board: 
 Note the contents of this paper and attached Quarterly Report
Outcome: Noted
6.4
PMO Report on Projects and Key Initiatives
The paper was taken as read and 
 Programme Manager, highlighted the following:
 The table is a reporting tool enabling management and governance to address any risk 
areas. 
 
The Board was supportive of the report and noted it is useful to see this information displayed in 
such a clear snapshot format.
Recommendations  
It was recommended that the Board: 
 Note the contents of this paper and provide feedback on any matters raised.
Outcome: Noted
6.5
Research Paper
The paper was taken as read and 
Head of Engagement, Insights and Education 
(EIE) highlighted the following:
 Three sets of research results were presented to the Board:
o Annual Consumer Perceptions Research undertaken by Nielsen
o Annual licensee survey
o Complaints Survey
 The intention is to share the Nielsen report in full, in line with our approach to transparency, 
and summarised results from the Complaint and Licensee Surveys. The Board was invited 
to note the results and comment on the communication plan.
The Board was supportive the proposed communication approach and agreed to making the full 
Nielsen report available.  
Recommendations  
It was recommended that the Board: 
 Note the annual research results.
 Note the proposed plan for releasing the research results. 
 Discuss and provide feedback on any risks with releasing the research results as 
outlined. 
Outcome: Noted 
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7.
Other Business
7.1
General Business
 Pending sector engagement – in person:
o
 are attending the REINZ Awards in early September and 
 is also to be invited. This provides a single event opportunity to engage 
with the sector and to demonstrate REA’s willingness to engage with the sector. 
will present on regulatory risks and issues at the REINZ 
ambassador workshop in the afternoon.
o Belinda is attending the Ray White Awards at the end of August in Auckland. The 
reasons for the attendance is in line with the above. Ray White is one of the largest 
franchises in NZ and this provides an opportunity to raise REA profile and 
awareness with the sector.
o Belinda is presenting at the Harcourts South Island Business Owners Meeting in 
late September.  
7.2
Closing Karakia
The meeting was closed with a Karakia at 12.25pm.
8.
Close Meeting
8.1
Close the meeting
Next meeting: Board Meeting 13 September 2022 - 13 Sep 2022, 9:00 am
Unuhia, unuhia                                              Draw on, draw on,
Unuhia ki te uru tapu nui                              Draw on the supreme sacredness
Kia wātea, kia māmā, te ngākau,                 To clear, to free the heart,
te tinana, te wairua t e ara takatā                 the body and the spirit of mankind
Koia rā e Rongo, whakairia ake ki runga    Rongo, suspended high above us (i.e. in ‘heaven’)
Kia tina! TINA! Hui e! TĀIKI E!                     Draw together! Affirm!
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