Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 00:18:42 +0000
Subject: RE: Rapid transit definition for RLTP 1
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Subject: Re: Rapid transit definition for RLTP
Hi all
*********************************************** I haven’t really kept up with the conversation. Nor have I discussed with staff at KCDC.
Wherever this lands, I do want to avoid a potential misconception. It may well turn out to be the case that council does end up deciding that many, if not all the stations within our district fit the relevant NPS-UD definition. We are not promoting that the RLTP includes statements to the effect that they are not rapid transit stops either. I could be wrong, as I’m writing this on the fly, but I thought I saw that suggestion coming through at one point...
Tricky to do this at the last minute without any face to face. But appreciate we are all under the pump and thanks again for giving us an opportunity to comment.
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> On 29/01/2021, at 12:44 PM, Hamish Wesney <
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> Hi all
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> In discussing with HCC planning team, we concur with the comments from Andrew/WCC below and their earlier suggested wording amendments.
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> It could be argued both ways whether the Melling Line meets the definition of rapid transit - it currently only runs Monday to Friday between 6am to 7pm, with services every 20 minutes during peak and hourly off-peak. However, service improvements are planned for the Melling line and stations for it to be rapid transit, though the details of the improvements are not known. Therefore, we are comfortable with the Melling Line being included in the definition.
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> We agree it is then up to each Council to determine the land use controls for the intensification policies in the NPS-UD.
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> Cheers
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> Hamish
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> Hamish Wesney
> Divisional Manager, District Plan Policy
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> From: Andrew Wharton [[email address]]
> Sent: Friday, 29 January 2021 11:09 a.m.
> To: Jason Holland; Fleur Matthews; Stewart McKenzie;
[email address]; Hamish Wesney; John McSweeney; Kate Pascall
> Cc: Amy Helm; Amy Kearse; Joe Hewitt; Sherilyn Hinton
> Subject: RE: Rapid transit definition for RLTP
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sherilyn’s, Kate’s and my view is still that identifying rapid transit networks, services and stops is the role of the Regional Land Transport Plan. This is a regional rail network cutting across council boundaries, with services determined by national agency and regional council investments. It’s the RMA plans’ role to determine the appropriate land use controls around the train stations and other public transport stops.
>
> We are concerned that the RLTP’s lack of clarity in identifying rapid transit stations will cause extra challenges on definitions that each council will have to address separately.
> Whether a rail line section and its stations are rapid transit is a question of fact and interpretation. This should be identified consistently and regionally – not subject to the vagaries of individual district plan Section 32 analyses, submissions and separate decisions. Saying that the relevant Councils should identify rapid transit stops in our view risks differing interpretations of the GPS definition along the same rail line!
>
> Because of this we don’t support Jason’s changes to the RLTP text, though we agree with the sentiment in the email.
>
> A possible way forward:
> I hear that the time for further edits to the draft RLTP may have passed. But there may be an opportunity for the Council land use and transport planners to get together to take a hard look at the data on upgrades and frequency changes, to address Kapiti and Porirua’s concerns. Then we could lodge a joint Council staff submission on whether any stops, or sections of rail line, are/are not currently rapid transit stops.
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> Regarding Matt’s comment that the rail and service upgrades may not be enough to be judged “reliable and high capacity”, again this is something the RLTP should sort out as this judgement is based on the RLTP’s improvement works, and projected frequency. In the interim, if it’s unclear whether “planned” RLTP investments in reliability/capacity, and Metlink’s increases in train frequency, will elevate the Kapiti Line to rapid transit status in the medium term, then there may be an option to end the rapid transit part of the Kapiti line prior to Pukerua Bay, for now. Something to discuss further.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Wharton
> Principal Advisor LGWM Interface | Wellington City Council
> 021 365 051
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> From: Jason Holland <
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> Sent: 28 January 2021 5:12 PM
> To: Fleur Matthews <
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> Cc: Amy Helm <
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> Subject: RE: Rapid transit definition for RLTP
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> Hi everyone
>
> Thanks for the opportunity to comment and very useful to be aware of others views too.
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> To us, it feels a bit rushed for the RLTP to get too black and white about this.
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> We’d prefer more indicative wording for now until the case is clearer that the RLTP is likely to include the right investments at the right time to keep up with future growth in our district. Stewart’s questions around frequency also seem pertinent to us – including whether there are or are not investments planned to substantively improve frequency (and capacity) up the Manawatu line to the Otaki station.
>
> I attach some amendments for your consideration, accepting that there may be other ways to achieve the outcome we’re seeking.
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> Cheers
>
> Jason
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> PS: perhaps just semantics – this isn’t about the RLTP “defining” these terms is it? I think we are talking about how the NPS-UD definitions in question might be applied to the specific context of the Wellington region railway system.
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> Jason Holland
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> From: Fleur Matthews [mailto:[email address]]
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 2:54 PM
> To: Andrew Wharton <
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> Cc: Amy Helm <
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> Subject: RE: Rapid transit definition for RLTP
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> Kia ora Andrew et al
>
> Thanks for all your work so far on this. The reason the TAG wanted to remove the station names was because some TAs were of the view that potentially not all of the stops on these lines would be considered rapid transit stops as per the NPS UD definition. So adding in the suggested additions below would be counterproductive to the concerns raised. Does that make sense?
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> Fleur
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> From: Andrew Wharton <
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> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 1:31 PM
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> Subject: RE: Rapid transit definition for RLTP
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> Hi Fleur and friends,
>
> Kate Pascall and I agree it’s a good idea to fix up the Map 6 by removing the station names and icons. This should also remove the issue of the circle highlighting Tawa, Linden, Kenepuru and Porirua stations … but missing Takapu Road and Redwood stations. Also the stations in the Johnsonville line and some stations in Porirua City are missing.
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> To balance the removing of the stations from Map 6, can we please amend the text above in the fourth paragraph, for clarity, to read:
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> “The rapid transit network, stops and services for the Wellington region comprise the Kāpiti, Hutt, Melling and Johnsonville rail lines, and all stations on those lines.” Of course my colleagues in other councils may recommend further changes; for example if Kapiti was concerned about this description and Map 6 so that stations north of Pukerua Bay are “passenger rail network” not “rapid transit network”, I defer to those councils on this!
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> Regards,
>
> Andrew Wharton
> Principal Advisor LGWM Interface | Wellington City Council
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> From: Stewart McKenzie <
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> Sent: 28 January 2021 11:01 AM
> To: Fleur Matthews <
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> Cc: Amy Helm <
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> Subject: RE: Rapid transit definition for RLTP
>
> Kia Ora all,
>
> For RMA land use planning purposes, PCC has been working under the assumption that the stops on the Kapiti Line within or very close to the District will meet the definition of a ‘rapid transit stop’ as defined by the NPS UD (the stops in question are Kenepuru, Porirua, Paremata, Mana, Plimmerton and Pukerua Bay). Trains run at a 20min frequency during peak times and during the day, with express services between Plimmerton - Wellington and Porirua - Wellington at peak times. Overall this frequency appears to support the assumption that these are ‘rapid transit stops’ servicing a ‘rapid transit service’.
>
> However, as services run at an hourly frequency at night and stop by midnight, there is a question mark over whether this service still meets the definition of a ‘rapid transit service’, or if night time frequency even needs to be considered. We are likely to be challenged on this through an RMA Schedule 1 process. We would be interested in knowing more about investment signalled through the RLTP aimed at increasing off-peak frequency and peak time capacity to accommodate growth on the Kapiti Line.
>
> Bearing the above in mind, PCC can tentatively support the definition of rapid transit service proposed to be appended to the RLTP, although note this is not a formal endorsement from our Council.
>
> Kind regards,
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> Stewart
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Rapid transit definition for RLTP
> Importance: High
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> Kia ora koutou
>
> The Regional Land Transport Plan TAG met this morning and discussed how the RLTP will define ‘rapid transit’ in the Wellington region, using the guidance on the NPS UD and various national transport documents. The TAG agreed to include the attached text, with amendments to the map to remove the names of the stops (so just referring to the names of the rail lines) and remove the purple lines. This document was developed by the GW Transport team with input from WCC, Waka Kotahi and me.
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> Can you please provide any feedback by 5pm tomorrow (Thursday 28 January)? Apologies for the short turnaround time.
>
> The attached text and map will be included in an Appendix to the RLTP in a section called ‘Our Transport System’. It will be one of a series of maps.
>
> Keep in mind the context for this definition and that being considered a rapid transit stop doesn’t automatically mean 6 storeys, and likewise, an area with good transport links (that’s not strictly rapid transit) can be intensified as appropriate. We will need to continue working on this wider picture to ensure we have a regionally consistent approach to it.
>
> Ngā mihi
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