This is an HTML version of an attachment to the Official Information request 'Overdue OIA – disclosure of communications regarding potential clinical service cost savings'.

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From:
hnzOIA
To:
Lucille Trewern
Cc:
Hannah Landers
Subject:
Action required, OIA ref. HNZ00060717 CRM:0448329
Date:
Tuesday, 20 August 2024 2:47:12 pm
Attachments:
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Kia ora Lucille,
Health NZ's National OIA Team has received the following Official Information Act request
(see below). Sasha Wood said that you might be the person to go to for a copy of the ELT
presentation and potentially any other relevant documents. If this is not the case, if you
could let me know if there is someone else I should send this onto that would be great. 
Request overview 
OIA reference: HNZ00060717
Advisor: Hannah Landers
Requester name: s 9(2)(a)
Requester type: Union1982
Date received: 14/08/2024
Request due: 11/09/2024
Clarification due date: Click to enter
Transfer due date: Click to enter date.
date.
Risk rating: 3
OIA type: HNZ OIA
Request in full: 
“A copy of the leadership presentation given on Tuesday, August 14 , 2024 and all
internal memos and documents pertaining to this meeting.”

If I could have the relevant documents by COP 23 August 2024 that would be
appreciated. 
under the OIA 
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: [email address]
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From:
Danielle Coe
To:
Hannah Landers
Subject:
13 Aug Akl leadership presentation
Date:
Thursday, 5 September 2024 7:31:16 am
Attachments:
24.08.13 GDO-RD Forum Pack - Copy.pptx
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Soz – was supposed to send this through the other day
Ngā mihi
Danielle Coe she/her
Manager (OIA) Government Services
Office of the Chief Executive
s 9(2)(a)  | [email address]
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Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
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From:
Georgie Clift
To:
Hannah Landers; Danielle Coe; Sally Dossor
Subject:
RE: Reset OIAs - documents for review
Date:
Tuesday, 10 September 2024 10:58:11 am
Attachments:
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24.08.13 GDO-RD Forum Pack - Copy.pptx
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Hey Hannah,
@Sally Dossor did you by chance ponder any further on this one? Should we progress to
another set of eyes say finance or legal?
Cheers,
Georgie Clift (She/Her)
Lead Ministerial Advisor - Hospital and Specialist Services
Office of the Chief Executive
īmēra: [email address]
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Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora
TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
From: Sally Dossor <[email address]> 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 6:21 PM
To: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Cc: Georgie Clift <[email address]>
under the OIA 
Subject: RE: Reset OIAs - documents for review
Out of scope
However re the 13 August pack – I know this might not be possible – but can you explore
whether this can be watermarked (or in some way reflected) that it is not government
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policy / working draft… or are we stuck with the fact that this was not on the slide deck (ie
the below, or similar, was not put on the deck)   - so all that can be noted is that it is
released under OIA.
If the answer to the above is no (which I expect it is) then I expect that there will need to be
context in the cover letter.

Will leave that with you.
Sally
From: Danielle Coe <[email address]> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 8:09 AM
To: Georgie Clift <[email address]>
Subject: Reset OIAs - documents for review
Hey Georgie
Can you guys please take a look at these two packs and provide advice on redactions. 
Both are for the reset OIAs we are working through.
Out of scope
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Multiple requesters
A copy of the internal presentation shown to senior leadership on 13 August 2024,
Let me know a timeframe you might be able to come back to me – this is a priority for us
above other OIA material
Thanks
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Dani
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From:
Hannah Landers
To:
Georgie Clift
Subject:
RE: Reset OIAs - documents for review
Date:
Monday, 9 September 2024 2:11:00 pm
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You don’t happen to know if any progress has been on either the Out of scope or H&SS
13 August Meeting??
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
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Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 9:54 AM
To: Georgie Clift <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Reset OIAs - documents for review
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Hey Georgie,
These are the documents for the Out of scope/H&SS OIA that Dani sent through to me.
From the looks of it Dani has already sent through. It might just be something to
check in with Sally about.
Once you guys have an idea of proposed redactions you can send back mine/Dani’s
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way .
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora


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From:
hnzOIA
Subject:
FW: Health New Zealand needs more time to make a decision on your request, HNZ00060797
CRM:0129891
Date:
Wednesday, 16 October 2024 7:57:32 am
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------------------- Original Message -------------------
From: HNZ OIA <[email address]>;
Received: Wed Sep 11 2024 09:28:47 GMT+1200 (New Zealand Standard Time)
To: Jeeves R Ponzi <[email address]>;
Subject: Health New Zealand needs more time to make a decision on your request, HNZ00060797
CRM:0129891
Tēnā koe Jeeves,
Thank you for your email asking for the following information under the Official
Information Act 1982 (the Act):
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"Please provide, as a matter of urgency (due to the unprecedented speed of the current
'Health Reset'):
a) The information referred to which the staff member disclosed, and the Commissioner
referred to, in full.
b) all correspondence (including Text messages, TEAMS messages or meetings,
Emails and /or any other means) between (either received or sent) the Commissioner
and/or his Deputies (or their Officers), or Health NZ Chief Executive or her Office, in any
direction, which refer in any way to this disclosed information, for the period covering
from Midnight Monday 12th August, and Midnight Wednesday 14th August."
under the OIA 
This email is to let you know that Health NZ needs more time to make a decision on
your request.
The Act requires that we advise you of our decision on your request no later than 20
working days after the day we received your request. Unfortunately, it will not be
possible to meet that time limit, and we are therefore writing to notify you of an
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extension of the time to make our decision, to 9 October 2024.
This extension is required because the consultations required are such that a proper
response cannot reasonably be made within the original time limit. 
If you have any questions, please contact us at [email address]
If you are not happy with this extension, you have the right to make a complaint to the
Ombudsman. Information about how to do this is available at
www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or by phoning 0800 802 602.


Nāku iti noa, nā
Shane Sharma
Government Services
Spark Central, 44-48 Willis Street, Wellington| PO Box 5013, Wellington 6140
Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora 
www.TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
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From:
Hannah Landers
To:
Andrew Cordner
Subject:
RE: Document for review (GDO-RD Forum Presentation)
Date:
Monday, 30 September 2024 8:53:00 am
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Thanks Andrew,
Appreciate you getting back to me on this.
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
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From: Andrew Cordner <[email address]> 
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 5:25 PM
To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Document for review (GDO-RD Forum Presentation)
Hi Hannah,
s 9(2)(h)
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Andrew
Andrew Cordner (he/him)
Chief Legal Counsel
waea pūkoro: 
s 9(2)(a)
Īmēra: [email address]


Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
The information contained in this email and any attachments may be legally privileged and is intended for the
named recipients only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email and notify the sender
immediately. Te Whatu Ora accepts no responsibility for changes made to this email or to any attachments
after it has been sent.
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:33 PM
To: Andrew Cordner <[email address]>
Subject: Document for review (GDO-RD Forum Presentation)
Kia ora Andrew,
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Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
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Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
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From:
Hannah Landers
To:
Marion Kindervater
Cc:
Mark Shepherd
Subject:
RE: Info required for OIA, ref. HNZ00061335 (Due COP 1 Oct)
Date:
Monday, 30 September 2024 12:59:00 pm
Attachments:
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Kia ora Marion,
I appreciate you sending these through so quickly.
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
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Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
From: Marion Kindervater <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2024 12:56 PM
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To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Cc: Mark Shepherd <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Info required for OIA, ref. HNZ00061335 (Due COP 1 Oct)
Hi Hannah
Please see attached emails relating to the GDO & Clinical Leaders hui on 13 August.
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Nga mihi
Marion Kindervater
Executive Assistant to:
Mark Shepherd | Deputy Chief Executive – Northern
waea pūkoro: s 9(2)(a)
 | īmēra: [email address]
Executive Service, Level 12, Building 1 | Auckland Hospital | 2 Park Road, Grafton
P.O. Box 92024 | Auckland 1023
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From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2024 11:21 AM
To: Marion Kindervater <[email address]>
Cc: Mark Shepherd <[email address]>
Subject: Info required for OIA, ref. HNZ00061335 (Due COP 1 Oct)
Kia ora Marion,
I am currently working on several official information act requests Health NZ has
received asking for information related to the GDO & Clinical Leaders hui on 13
August 2024. From my understanding,  Mark chaired the hui that day.
I am aware of an email that Fionnagh Dougan sent following the meeting but am just
checking in to see if Mark sent anything further to this. Could you please have a look
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to see if any emails went out from Mark to all invitees/attendees following this hui.
I would appreciate if you could get back to me on this by close of play tomorrow.
Please sing out if you have any questions or concerns regarding this.
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
under the OIA 
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
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From:
Hannah Landers
To:
Mark Sleeman; Laurie Edwards
Cc:
Danielle Coe
Subject:
RE: Review required for OIA, ref. HNZ00061335 (Due COP 3 Oct)
Date:
Friday, 4 October 2024 3:19:00 pm
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Kia ora Mark and Laurie,
Appreciate you both providing comments.
I will make the suggested changes to the letter and continue this on to the various
individuals for review before we send this off.  @Laurie Edwards regarding the
suggestion to remove Jo Lusk’s name I will make sure to consult with her before
release, however, our general approach is to release names in full.1982
I have attached a link to the Ombudsman’s guidance around withholding ‘draft’
documents under free and frank or obligation of confidence.
https://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/resources/oia-and-draft-documents-guide-
how-oia-applies-requests-draft-documents
In this instance I do not think we meet the threshold for withholding this document.
There is high public interest in the release of information from Health NZ at the
moment given our current situation. This presentation has generated at least four
requests that I am aware of for both the presentation and subsequent
correspondence in response to this presentation. These requests have come from
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Unions, Media and Political Parties.
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I think the narrative we are providing in the letter as well as the emails in the appendix
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clearly show the context around the presentation and the fact that this is not final
plans or decisions. Noting that I think the best approach is to provide the emails to
requestors as part of the appendix even if they have not specifically asked for them.
H&SS had asked us about applying a ‘draft/not government policy’ watermark to this
document, however, we have advised against this as this was not how the document
was presented at the time.
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)



Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
From: Mark Sleeman <[email address]> 
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 10:28 AM
To: Laurie Edwards <[email address]>
Cc: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Review required for OIA, ref. HNZ00061335 (Due COP 3 Oct) 1982
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Mark Sleeman
Chief Advisor – Communications
waea pūkoro: s 9(2)(a)  | īmēra  [email address]
69 Tory Street, Wellington
Follow us on LinkedIn  |  Facebook  |  Instagram
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TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
From: Laurie Edwards <[email address]> 
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 10:25 AM
To: Mark Sleeman <[email address]>
Cc: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
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Hi Hannah
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Ngā mihi nui
Laurie
Laurie Edwards
Principal Advisor
Communications and Engagement
waea pūkoro: s 9(2)(a)
īmēra: [email address]
Follow us on LinkedIn  |  Facebook  |  Instagram
www.TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
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From: Mark Sleeman <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 5:46 PM
To: Laurie Edwards <[email address]>
Cc: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Subject: FW: Review required for OIA, ref. HNZ00061335 (Due COP 3 Oct)
Importance: High
Hi Laurie
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Sorry, I missed this in my email and just picking it up now. Can you have a look at this in the
morning and advise Hannah?
Thanks
Mark
Mark Sleeman
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waea pūkoro: s 9(2)(a)  | īmēra  [email address]
69 Tory Street, Wellington
Follow us on LinkedIn  |  Facebook  |  Instagram
Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora
TeWhatuOra.govt.nz
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 


Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2024 9:18 AM
To: Mark Sleeman <[email address]>
Subject: Review required for OIA, ref. HNZ00061335 (Due COP 3 Oct)
Importance: High
Kia ora Mark,
Hope you are doing well.
I was wondering if you might be able to assist in reviewing the following response. It is
the first of five requests I have that have asked for the internal H&SS presentation on
13 August that gained some media attention.
All requests are from unions, political parties or media.
Noting that once the wording for this response is confirmed it will be a copy and
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paste situation for the remaining responses.
s 9(2)(h)
I have included some context based on what I know, however, I would appreciate if
there was some additional wording or context that comms could provide that might
help this response.
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It is likely that Peter Alsop along with Margie/Lester and other members of ELT and
the Ministers Office will review before it is sent off, so I am just wanting some comms
insight on it now before sending on to them.
I would appreciate if you could review or send on to the relevant people and get back
to me by close of play 3 October 2024.
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Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora

From:
Hannah Landers
To:
Joanna Lusk
Cc:
hnzOIA
Subject:
RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
Date:
Thursday, 10 October 2024 9:42:00 am
Attachments:
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Thanks for the quick response, really appreciate it Jo.
I wll reach out to Mark to confirm.
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah
From: Joanna Lusk <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:41 AM
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To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Cc: hnzOIA <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
Hi Hannah,
I have checked the file folder these meeting slides were saved to, the file for the meeting
here (showing as last modified on 12/08) does include the green highlights so I think these
would have been included at the presentation.  However, those particular slides were
presented by Mark Shepherd, so he would be best placed to confirm? 
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Jo.
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:31 AM
To: Joanna Lusk <[email address]>
Cc: hnzOIA <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
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Hi Jo,
Just checking in again and hoping that you could help confirm something for me as
presenter/attendee of the meeting.
We have had a query as to whether the document presented at the meeting included
the green highlighted sections or not. I have attached the documents again for your
review. If you have any memory arouns this that would be extremely helpful.
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah

From: Hannah Landers 
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:25 AM
To: Joanna Lusk <[email address]>
Cc: hnzOIA <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
Thanks Joanna, sounds good.
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah
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From: Joanna Lusk <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 9:27 PM
To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Cc: hnzOIA <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
Kia ora Hannah,
Thanks for the opportunity to review.  I don’t think I have any feedback to add to this at this
time, but if I think of any I’ll let you know before COB tomorrow.
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Jo.
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:05 PM
To: Joanna Lusk <[email address]>
Cc: hnzOIA <[email address]>
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Subject: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
Kia ora Joanne,
Health NZ has received several requests asking for the H&SS presentation given on
13 August and correspondence relating to this.
I have attached the draft response for one of these requests alongside the appendix. 
As an FYI, this has been past legal and comm review and will be going to Margie and
Lester shortly, however, I am reaching out to you directly as I understand you


presented at the meeting and are named in some of the emails. 
If you could review and provide any feedback by close of play 8 October that would
be appreciated.  I am also reaching out to Mark Shepherd.
In reviewing this documentation, please note, that under the Act there are only
specific reasons to withhold information. Information about this can be found here. 
Ngā mihi nui,
Hannah Landers (she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
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From:
Chris Lowry
To:
Hannah Landers
Cc:
Mark Shepherd
Subject:
RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
Date:
Thursday, 10 October 2024 10:59:38 am
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To ensure we get this right the document presented was the final version that was
sent to Margie and Fionnagh the night before the meeting – Dinag=h might be able to
help you th is
 
I know there was a high level overview of this section of the presentation but the
discussion did not go into this level of detail
Chris
 
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:46 AM
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To: Chris Lowry <[email address]>
Cc: Mark Shepherd <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
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Kia ora Chris,
 
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Hoping this is something you might be able to assist me with.
Peter Alsop has asked that we confirm as to whether the document presented at the
meeting included the green highlighted sections or not. I have attached the
documents again for your review. If you have any memory around this that would be
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extremely helpful.
 
I have spoken with Jo who advised that the version dated 12/08 includes the
highlighted text so she was thinking that would be what was presented but thought
yourself or Mark would be best to confirm this.
 
Ngā mihi nui,
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From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:49 PM
To: Chris Lowry <[email address]>
Cc: Mark Shepherd <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
Hi Chris,


 
Thanks for your feedback. Regarding the presentation, we have received several
requests related to this including the following:
“All correspondence and/or advice relating to the slide presented to Health New
Zealand staff on Tuesday 13 August 2024, relating to $701.8m in additional savings.
This should include but not be limited to emails, text messages, and instant
messaging.
All responses and/or reactions to that slide from staff at Health New Zealand. This
should include but not be limited to emails, text messages, and instant messaging.”
 
“… a) The information referred to which the staff member disclosed, and the
Commissioner referred to, in full.
b) all correspondence (including Text messages, TEAMS messages or meetings,
Emails and /or any other means) between (either received or sent) the Commissioner
and/or his Deputies (or their Officers), or Health NZ Chief Executive or her Office, in

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any direction, which refer in any way to this disclosed information, for the period
covering from Midnight Monday 12th August, and Midnight Wednesday 14th August.”
 

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“A copy of the leadership presentation given on Tuesday, August 14 , 2024 and all
internal memos and documents pertaining to this meeting.”

the 
 
I have just sent through one of the responses as once approved it will be a copy and
paste situation for most of them.
 
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I am currently consulting with Jo around the release of her name. As for everyone else
in the emails, it is common practice to release the names of public servants unless
we have good reason to withhold.
 
Hopefully that is some helpful context, however, please reach out if you have any
additional comments.
 
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Ngā mihi nui,
 
Hannah Landers 
(she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
 

 
 
 
From: Chris Lowry <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:37 PM
To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Cc: Mark Shepherd <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
Hi
I have reviewed the draft letter and Appendix and have the following queries
The OIA requests the “information referred to which the staff member disclosed” –
you have attached the full presentation which ifs more than what has been
requested. I suggest this be limited to what has been requested only from the power
point
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The appendix also has emails with all of the staff members listed that this was sent to
– do any of these names need to be redacted given the role they hold.
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be redacted given the level her position is within the structure If it is decided that this
is appropriate then she should be advised
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Chris
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:08 PM
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To: Chris Lowry <[email address]>
Cc: Mark Shepherd <[email address]>
Subject: Consultation on release of information under OIA (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
Kia ora Chris,
 
Peter Alsop has asked that I send this your way for Mark.
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Health NZ has received several requests asking for the H&SS presentation given on
13 August and correspondence relating to this.
 
I have attached the draft response for one of these requests alongside the appendix. 
 
As an FYI, this has been past legal and comm review and will be going to Margie and
Lester shortly, however, I am reaching out to you/Mark as I understand he presented
at the meeting and is named in some of the emails.  
 
If you could review and provide any feedback by close of play 8 October that would


be appreciated.  I am also reaching out to Joanne Lusk.  
 
In reviewing this documentation, please note, that under the Act there are only
specific reasons to withhold information. Information about this can be found here. 
 
Ngā mihi nui,
 
Hannah Landers 
(she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
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From:
Hannah Landers
To:
Peter Alsop
Cc:
Danielle Coe
Subject:
RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
Date:
Thursday, 10 October 2024 1:12:00 pm
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I have gone to both Jo and Chris who advised the following.
 
Jo said that the version saved in the file folder is as of 12 August (day before
presentation) has green highlight in it.
Chris said that final version went to Margie and Fionnagh night before presentation,
so Margie probably best placed to confirm against what we have sent to her already.
 
From: Peter Alsop <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:29 AM
To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
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Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
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Pls double check just to be sure it is the right version to release.
It has gone to Margie now but we should still check
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From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:29 AM
To: Peter Alsop <[email address]>
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Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
That is the version of the presentation that H&SS provided us. That would have to be
confirmed by someone who attended. Neither Jo or Chirs/Mark S raised any concerns
regarding this but I can double check with them if you would like.
 
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Thx
Hannah
 
From: Peter Alsop <[email address]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:18 AM
To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
The green highlights in the presso, were they in what was delivered?  Or are they something
new?

 
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 9:52 AM
To: Peter Alsop <[email address]>
Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
Attached are the four responses and appendix.
For the most part the wording is the same across the responses, except where there
have been additional questions asked.
 
s 9(2)(h)
 Mark Sleeman/Laurie Edwards s 9(2)(h)
The approach I was thinking is that we provide all
requestors with the full appendix as it currently stands as this helps paint the
complete picture around the presentation and subsequent emails, Lesters
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comments afterwards etc.  However, open to thoughts on this.
 
Thx
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Hannah
 
From: Peter Alsop <[email address]> the 
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 9:33 AM
To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
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Ta, pls send me write pack to share
P
 
 
From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 9:32 AM
To: Peter Alsop <[email address]>
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Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
Kia ora Pete,
 
I have heard back from Jo and Chris on the release of this presentation. Chris had
some concerns that we were releasing the whole presentation, however, I advised
that we have had multiple OIAs asking for this. Jo had no concerns with the release of
the material or her name.
 
This should now be good to for Margie/Lester.  Dani and I will sort noting with

Ministers Office.
 
Thx
Hannah
 
 
 
From: Peter Alsop <[email address]> 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 11:51 AM
To: Hannah Landers <[email address]>
Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
Looks good thank you.
Pls check in with Chris Lowry (for Mark S) and Joanne Lusk today if we can – we can then
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tell Lester we are all done except his and Margie review (I will handle that bit)
Many thx Hannah
Pete
 
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From: Hannah Landers <[email address]> 
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Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 11:19 AM
To: Peter Alsop <[email address]>
Cc: Danielle Coe <[email address]>
Subject: Draft response for OIAs (HSS Budget Presentation 13 Aug) (Due COP 8 Oct)
 
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Kia ora Pete,
 
Health NZ has received five requests at this stage from political parties, unions,
media and members of the public via FYI asking for the H&SS presentation given on
13 August and correspondence relating to this.
 
I have attached the draft response for two of these requests alongside the appendix. 
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The plan is to essentially copy and paste the response once approved across the five
requests.
 
The additional OIA’s include:
“All correspondence and/or advice relating to the slide presented to Health New
Zealand staff on Tuesday 13 August 2024, relating to $701.8m in additional savings.
This should include but not be limited to emails, text messages, and instant
messaging.
All responses and/or reactions to that slide from staff at Health New Zealand. This
should include but not be limited to emails, text messages, and instant messaging.”


 
“… a) The information referred to which the staff member disclosed, and the
Commissioner referred to, in full.
b) all correspondence (including Text messages, TEAMS messages or meetings,
Emails and /or any other means) between (either received or sent) the Commissioner
and/or his Deputies (or their Officers), or Health NZ Chief Executive or her Office, in
any direction, which refer in any way to this disclosed information, for the period
covering from Midnight Monday 12th August, and Midnight Wednesday 14th August.”
 
“A copy of the leadership presentation given on Tuesday, August 14 , 2024 and all
internal memos and documents pertaining to this meeting.”
 
s 9(2)(h)
 Additionally, Mark Sleeman and Laurie Edwards have completed a comms review
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and provided some of the wording for these responses.
 
Noting that Dani provided me with the redactions for the email between Margie and
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Lester which was found to be within scope of these requests.
 
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If you could review and provide any feedback by close of play 8 October that would
be appreciated.
 
I will send this onto Margie and Lester for their review as well as consult with Mark
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Shepherd and Joanne Lusk as they are named in various emails. Dani and I have also
spoken about noting these with Minister Reti’s Office.
 
Please let me know if you think there is anyone else you think needs to be across
these responses before their release.
 
Ngā mihi nui,
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(she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
 
 


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Kia ora Pete,
Health NZ has received five requests at this stage from political parties, unions,
media and members of the public via FYI asking for the H&SS presentation given on
13 August and correspondence relating to this.
I have attached the draft response for two of these requests alongside the appendix. 
The plan is to essentially copy and paste the response once approved across the five
requests.
The additional OIA’s include:
“All correspondence and/or advice relating to the slide presented to Health New
Zealand staff on Tuesday 13 August 2024, relating to $701.8m in additional savings.
This should include but not be limited to emails, text messages, and instant
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messaging.
All responses and/or reactions to that slide from staff at Health New Zealand. This
should include but not be limited to emails, text messages, and instant messaging.”
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“… a) The information referred to which the staff member disclosed, and the
the 
Commissioner referred to, in full.
b) all correspondence (including Text messages, TEAMS messages or meetings,
Emails and /or any other means) between (either received or sent) the Commissioner
and/or his Deputies (or their Officers), or Health NZ Chief Executive or her Office, in

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any direction, which refer in any way to this disclosed information, for the period
covering from Midnight Monday 12th August, and Midnight Wednesday 14th August.”

“A copy of the leadership presentation given on Tuesday, August 14 , 2024 and all
internal memos and documents pertaining to this meeting.”

s 9(2)(h)
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 Additionally, Mark Sleeman and Laurie Edwards have completed a comms review
and provided some of the wording for these responses.
Noting that Dani provided me with the redactions for the email between Margie and
Lester which was found to be within scope of these requests.
If you could review and provide any feedback by close of play 8 October that would
be appreciated.
I will send this onto Margie and Lester for their review as well as consult with Mark


Shepherd and Joanne Lusk as they are named in various emails. Dani and I have also
spoken about noting these with Minister Reti’s Office.
 
Please let me know if you think there is anyone else you think needs to be across
these responses before their release.
 
Ngā mihi nui,
 
Hannah Landers 
(she/her)
Advisor | Kaitohutohu
Government Services (OIA)
īmēra: 
[email address] 
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Health New Zealand | Te Whatu Ora
 
 
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