Outside of scope
From:
Outside of scope
Sent:
Wednesday, 5 April 2023 2:49 pm
To:
Outside of scope
Subject:
RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Thanks Outsi Will send a calendar invite for you to forward to
and
Outside
Outside
de of
of
of scope
Just checking how we can structure the meeting to maximise our time. I am not sure how much
Outside and
Outside
of
of
know about NZR’s interventions at all levels of the game? Would this be helpful, or shall we just cut to the chase and
talk about the cases?
Thoughts?
Agenda:
Time
10:00am
Welcome and introductions
Outside NZR
of scope
Outside
of
ACC
10:10am
Overview of Concussion and CTE
NZR – Outsid and Outsi
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de of
approach for both organisations
ACC –
and
Outside
Outside
of
of
OR
Direct questions about the cases
10:30am
Q&A – legal and medical expertise
(only required if we provide the
overview)
10:50am
Final discussion points or next steps
Outsid and Out
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side
From: Outside of scope
Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2023 12:39 pm
To: Outside of scope
Subject: RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Yes, anytime from 10am onwards.
Out
side
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2023 11:11 am
To: Outside of scope
Subject: RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Does Thursday 11th May work in the morning?
Outside of
(she/her)
Injury Prevention Programme Manager
New Zealand Rugby | Whutupōro Aotearoa
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Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2023 1:13 pm
To: Outside of scope
Subject: RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Thanks Outside
of
I am actually away 28 April – 05 May aswell – sorry!
How about the following week?
Out
side
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2023 10:19 am
To: Outside of scope
Subject: RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Hi Outsi
de of
Does May 3rd from 130pm onwards work for you and your colleagues?
We can host here if you like and zoom
in
Outside
of
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New Zealand Rugby | Whutupōro Aotearoa
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>
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2023 4:42 pm
To: Outside of scope
>
Subject: RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Unfortunately Outsid is in Auckland.
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So – myself and Outsi from our legal team would be I person but Outsi would be online.
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Out
side
Outside of scope
, (She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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>
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2023 3:59 pm
To: Outside of scope
>
Subject: RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Just checking Outsid are we able to have the meeting in person?
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Happy to come to ACC if that works best or we can host.
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>
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2023 3:23 pm
To: Outside of scope
Subject: RE: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
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Kia ora
,
Outside
of
Hope you had a great weekend.
I have had a chat with my colleague Outside of
who works in this area and is more than happy to meet with
you all.
is
Outside away over the next 10 days but is available from 13 April onwards to support this conversation.
of
Do you want to suggest a few days/time that might work for you all after 13 April? I will be on leave Monday 17th
April but otherwise available.
Thanks
Out
side
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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From: Outside of scope
>
Sent: Friday, 31 March 2023 2:24 pm
To: Outside of scope
>
Subject: Offer to meet with ACC legal/medical expertise re: CTE cases
Kia Ora Outsi
de of
Following up from our last meeting, I have checked with Outsid andOutsi who are both keen to take this opportunity.
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de of
If between you and I, we can connect them with the right people at ACC to discuss any learning opportunities and
current best practice, this would be a great first step.
Happy to help as required.
Outside of
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Injury Prevention Programme Manager
New Zealand Rugby | Whutupōro Aotearoa
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Outside of scope
From:
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Sent:
Tuesday, 21 March 2023 3:09 pm
To:
Outside of scope
Subject:
FW: Probable CT media enquiry response
Kia ora team,
Please can you let me know if you would still like me to set up some time to discuss this further with some of my
ACC colleagues from other parts of the business?
Outside of scope
I know you have been in touch with Out and some of his team, so I wanted to check if you have
all you need or if you would like any further info/discussion.
id
Thanks,
Ou
t id
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
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ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2023 3:07 pm
To: Outside of scope
Outside of scope
Cc: Outside of scope
; Outside of scope
Subject: Probable CT media enquiry response
Kia ora Outside of scope
Hope you’ve had a good start to the week.
I am following up on our conversations from last week about the recent media enquiry we have received from Dylan
Cleaver. We are unable to share the full response due the personal nature of some of the information included but,
below is the para we have provided in response to the question about prevention. In addition, our full response
does not suggest that ACC accepts a causal link between concussion and CTE, but rather aims to outline the
complexities and the current state of the evidence.
Are response went back to Dylan this afternoon.
Any questions just let me know,
Ou
t id
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Concussion prevention
ACC continues with the work delivered through sports injury prevention partnerships including:
A focus on Fair play (the rules are there to protect the players),
Skill and tech (good technique can help players avoid getting into an ‘at risk’ position),
Physical condition (ensuring players are prepared for the physical demands of the sport),
Supporting sports codes to develop and implement concussion policies based on the ACC Sports concussion
guidelines,
Community wide education on how to recognise a concussion and what to do next.
The release of the new international consensus statement on sports related concussion is expected by May 2023, we
will consider what this means in a New Zealand context and update our guidelines.
We continue to work with all of our sports partners to understand where changes to the rules might be needed to
improve player safety.
We know that good early management of concussion improves patient outcomes. ACC has developed and
implemented an ongoing programme of work to improve the management of concussion in primary care, this
includes upskilling of GP’s, option of an extended appointment time to allow for a more comprehensive assessment,
use of a standard assessment tool to support clinical decision making and increased consistency of care.
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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We are preparing a response to address the key questions from Dylan. It is quite a short turnaround (Thursday
deadline) so we wanted to let you know about this as early as we could.
Do you want to share with Outsi and Outsid and then perhaps we can set up some time to discuss on Wednesday
de of
e of
afternoon or Thursday morning?
Thanks,
Out
side
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2023 3:11 pm
To: Outside of scope
>; Outside of scope
Cc: Outside of scope
Outside of scope
Subject: RE: CTE media enquiry ‐ in confidence
Kia ora Outsi
de of
The story will also get pushed out to next week.
I am happy to make some time on Friday morning to talk further if you like?
Ou
t id
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2023 12:51 pm
To: Outside of scope
Outside of scope
Cc: Outside of scope
>; Outside of scope
Subject: RE: CTE media enquiry ‐ in confidence
Hi Louise,
Happy to jump on a call if easier. Is the response not a public statement to a journalist based on the below enquiry?
Cheers,
Outsi
de of
Outside of
Head of Communications & Campaigns
New Zealand Rugby | Whutupōro Aotearoa
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2023 12:19 pm
To: Outside of scope
; Outside of scope
Cc: Outside of scope
>; Outside of scope
>
Subject: RE: CTE media enquiry ‐ in confidence
Kia ora Outsi
de of
Just wanted to acknowledge your email.
We have actually been able to push the deadline out to next week.
I will be in touch later today with some more info on some of the points we discussed yesterday and any further
updates.
Back to you soon,
Out
side
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2023 12:06 pm
To: Outside of scope
>; Outside of scope
>
Cc: Outside of scope
>; Outside of scope
>
Subject: RE: CTE media enquiry ‐ in confidence
Morning Outs and Outside
ide
of scope
Thanks for the chat yesterday and nice to meet you Outside Thanks also for taking all of our questions – there’s
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obviously lots of context to consider from our side.
We’d certainly appreciate any visibility on your comms when possible today.
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Much appreciated.
Cheers,
Outsi
de of
Outside of
Head of Communications & Campaigns
New Zealand Rugby | Whutupōro Aotearoa
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2023 12:01 pm
To: Outside of scope
Outside of scope
>; Outside of sc
Outside of scope
Outside of scope
Cc: Outside of scope
Subject: CTE media enquiry ‐ in confidence
Kia Ora All,
Below are the key questions included in the media enquiry from Dylan Cleaver. I have removed the personal info.
The person featured in the story has been recognised as having probable chronic traumatic encephalopathy, more
commonly referred to as CTE (a diagnosis that can only be confirmed post‐mortem) as a result of injuries suffered
while playing rugby.
I would like to speak to an ACC spokesperson to determine:
1. Whether this was the first such recognition in terms of compensation in NZ;
2. Whether ACC has subsequently formulated any policy around CTE;
3. Whether there are any plans to roll‐out prevention information;
4. How many CTE claimants there are.
I would also ask the ACC to respond to criticism in the story that the ACC's response to CTE claims has been too
heavily dependent on the claimant providing proof rather than probability of the disease.
Talk later,
Out
side
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
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Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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Outside of scope
From:
Outside of scope
Sent:
Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:14 pm
To:
Outside of scope
; Outside of scope
Subject:
Re: CTE media query - the spinoff
Hi Outsi
de of ,
Thanks for letting us know. Would be great to chat tomorrow if you’re free?
I can do 10.30am or anytime after 12pm. If you’ve got any more information in the meantime that’s shareable that
would be great.
Cheers,
Outsi
de of
Outside of
Head of Communications & Campaigns
New Zealand Rugby | Whutupōro Aotearoa
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 5:08:59 PM
To: Outside of scope
Outside of scope
Outsid
e of
Subject: FW: CTE media query ‐ the spinoff
Kia ora team,
Please see my note below to Outsid – apologies I wasn’t sure when she was back from leave.
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Let me know what you think and we can set up time to discuss further,
Thanks
Outsi
de of
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
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Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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From: Outside of scope
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:05 pm
To: Outside of scope
Cc: Outside of scope
Subject: CTE media query ‐ the spinoff
Kia ora Outside
of
Hope you had a good holiday.
We have had a media enquiry from Dylan Cleaver; he is developing a feature article for the spinoff about an ACC
client with an accepted case of probable CTE as a result of injuries suffered while playing rugby.
We are preparing a response to address the key questions from Dylan. It is quite a short turnaround (Thursday
deadline) so we wanted to let you know about this as early as we could.
Do you want to share with Outsi and Outsid and then perhaps we can set up some time for all of us to discuss on
de of
e of
Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning?
Thanks,
Out
side
Outside of scope
(She/Her)
Injury Prevention Partner, ACC
Outside of scope
Injury Prevention - Sport & Traumatic Brain Injury / Wellington - Justice Centre
ACC / 19 Aitken Street, Wellington, 6011
PO Box 242 / Wellington 6140 / New Zealand / acc.co.nz
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This is an exclusive for TVNZ so you can imagine they might be keen to promote the story next week via the likes of
Breakfast and Seven Sharp. There is also the potential that they will use Nowinski as part of this and NZR are
preparing for that to happen.
This may have little or no impact on ACC however, we thought to let you know just in case. We do have background
information and key messages that were provided by NZR to the journalist.
Noting that this is confidential given TVNZ’s exclusivity around the story. I have included Outsi in the email in case
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you have any media related questions.
Thanks,
Outside of
(she/her)
Injury Prevention Programme Manager
New Zealand Rugby | Whutupōro Aotearoa
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Document Outline
- RE Offer to meet with ACC legalmedical expertise re CTE cases
- FW Probable CT media enquiry response
- Fwd CTE media query - the spinoff
- RE CTE media enquiry - in confidence
- Re CTE media query - the spinoff
- RE FYI - TVNZ Sunday
